SEO Misinformation - GoFuckYourself.com

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:18 AM

I did a little search today, and found some people who are using my name in their filenames to get higher Google rankings. Of course I do not actually appear on their sites. The URLs are ones like:

http://www.jordan-capri.info/blowjob...e_blowjob.html

www.www-mac-and-bumble.com/ cumshots/ellinude_blowjob.html

www.adult-entertainment-xxx.com/ blowjob/ellinude-blowjob.html

http://www.www-webyoung-com.com/blow...e_blowjob.html

These show up as "Supplemental Results".

Obviously they are messed up URLs entered solely for the keyword values. But how do I find what SEO person is doing this, and how to I ask them as nicely as is humanly possible to STOP using my keyword?!

davethetruth · 06-15-2004, 10:26 AM

There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:26 AM

I see noone has replied. Interesting. So has noone ever had this happen to them?

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by davethetruth
There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.

It's obviously an SEO person, because the URLS have the same space and extra www- at the beginning. So I hate to bug the domain owner, who is very unlikely to know exactly what tricks their SEO guy is up to.

dirtyone · 06-15-2004, 10:30 AM

I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump

sacX · 06-15-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by davethetruth
There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.

best idea.

Sly_RJ · 06-15-2004, 10:30 AM

It happens all the time and it sucks. I've been told that unless you have your name trademarked, there's nothing you can really do. This happens to all of the big and even small guys.

What you COULD do is run a WHOIS on the domain, contact the owner and try to work out some sort of deal with him. If I remember correctly, you don't have an affiliate program, but maybe you could offer something in return. Odds are he won't care and you'll just have to get over it.

A couple people pissed me off doing this. So guess what I'm doing? Taking the spots back.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by dirtyone
I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump

I have complained repeatedly to Google, but either they don't dump the URLs in question or the guy is very persistant in submitting.

Trax · 06-15-2004, 10:33 AM

lol
those sites are generated automatically

they created a big keyword list and the script does the rest
your site name was in there... This doesn't happen on purpose believe me.
they dont give

about you and your site lol

I hope you appreciate that honest answer ;)

beergood · 06-15-2004, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
lol
those sites are generated automatically

they created a big keyword list and the script does the rest
your site name was in there... This doesn't happen on purpose believe me.
they dont give about you and your site lol

I hope you appreciate that honest answer ;)

yep. Chances are they never even heard of you. You could try complaining to their hosting company.

Trax · 06-15-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by beergood
yep. Chances are they never even heard of you. You could try complaining to their hosting company.

they will laugh at her.
If her name is no trademark or copyrighted she can do NOTHING

what are they doing that is illegal besides the SE spam lol?
Elli is a normal name
It doesn't make a difference if it is
Elli nude
Fred nude
whothefuckeverwhosnameisnotprotected nude

you can do nothing!

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
they will laugh at her.
If her name is no trademark or copyrighted she can do NOTHING

what are they doing that is illegal besides the SE spam lol?
Elli is a normal name
It doesn't make a difference if it is
Elli nude
Fred nude
whothefuckeverwhosnameisnotprotected nude

you can do nothing!

Yes, thank you for your honesty. I didn't realize it was a generated script. Oh well, I only sent 4 emails so far.

Trax · 06-15-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Elli
Yes, thank you for your honesty. I didn't realize it was a generated script. Oh well, I only sent 4 emails so far.

you can kindly ask if they could remove you from the script
whine a bit saying its your only income or something

apart from that I wouldn't expect any big changes
sorry

Platinumpimp · 06-15-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
I did a little search today, and found some people who are using my name in their filenames to get higher Google rankings. Of course I do not actually appear on their sites. The URLs are ones like:

http://www.jordan-capri.info/blowjob...e_blowjob.html

www.www-mac-and-bumble.com/ cumshots/ellinude_blowjob.html

www.adult-entertainment-xxx.com/ blowjob/ellinude-blowjob.html

http://www.www-webyoung-com.com/blow...e_blowjob.html

These show up as "Supplemental Results".

Obviously they are messed up URLs entered solely for the keyword values. But how do I find what SEO person is doing this, and how to I ask them as nicely as is humanly possible to STOP using my keyword?!

what exactly is your point? You think you are the only one in the world that is called Elli?

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
you can kindly ask if they could remove you from the script
whine a bit saying its your only income or something

apart from that I wouldn't expect any big changes
sorry

Ok, thanks for the help. I will see what I can do and how charming I can be.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
what exactly is your point? You think you are the only one in the world that is called Elli?

No, but I do have a site at ellinude.com, which is the keyword they are going after.

{fusion} · 06-15-2004, 10:58 AM

hes a big SE spammer, seen him around alot

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:03 AM

So, my next question would be:

How do I find the lovely person who has written the script? Or does it come up with popular Google searches on its own?

Results 181 - 190 of about 7,750 for ellinude-blowjob.

That's 7,750 pages using that script at least.

{fusion} · 06-15-2004, 11:05 AM

http://www.lesbian-sex-free.biz/blow...e-blowjob.html

how do they get away with that beats me.

WiredGuy · 06-15-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Elli
I have complained repeatedly to Google, but either they don't dump the URLs in question or the guy is very persistant in submitting.

To be honest Google will do nothing. Best case scenario (and very doubtful it will ever happen), they remove the page. Whats to stop the SE guy from doing it again on a new domain.

WG

WiredGuy · 06-15-2004, 11:11 AM

As for your best bet, contacting the webmaster and hoping he'll remove you from his keyword list is best. If he still won't listen, try going through his sponsor lists (primarily the ones he's targetting from pages with your name in them) and see which ones you're on good terms with. Try contacting them and see if they can relay the message to the webmaster. More than likely, there is very little you can actually do about this however since ellinude is not a trademark (it might be but I didn't check). Without a TM, the sponsor programs are just contacting the webmaster out of courtesy, nothing more...

Hopefully this works out for you

WG

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
To be honest Google will do nothing. Best case scenario (and very doubtful it will ever happen), they remove the page. Whats to stop the SE guy from doing it again on a new domain.

WG

Yes, that is what I found, so I gave up contacting Google about it. I wish I had more weight to throw around, but I'm just a single person. Ah well. I guess I could buy the same script....

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
As for your best bet, contacting the webmaster and hoping he'll remove you from his keyword list is best. If he still won't listen, try going through his sponsor lists (primarily the ones he's targetting from pages with your name in them) and see which ones you're on good terms with. Try contacting them and see if they can relay the message to the webmaster. More than likely, there is very little you can actually do about this however since ellinude is not a trademark (it might be but I didn't check). Without a TM, the sponsor programs are just contacting the webmaster out of courtesy, nothing more...

Hopefully this works out for you
WG

Thanks WG

No, it's not trademarked. I'll see what kind of reply I get from the first four, if any.

I've always depended on the kindess of strangers.

beergood · 06-15-2004, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
they will laugh at her.
If her name is no trademark or copyrighted she can do NOTHING

what are they doing that is illegal besides the SE spam lol?
Elli is a normal name
It doesn't make a difference if it is
Elli nude
Fred nude
whothefuckeverwhosnameisnotprotected nude

you can do nothing!

Perhaps, it depends on the person. From personal experience alot of times the host will pick up the phone and let the site owner know there was a complaint. I suppose the name Elli wouldn't carry alot of weight but if it bothers her then why not try at least?

beergood · 06-15-2004, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
So, my next question would be:

How do I find the lovely person who has written the script? Or does it come up with popular Google searches on its own?

Results 181 - 190 of about 7,750 for ellinude-blowjob.

That's 7,750 pages using that script at least.

I've personally written about a dozen scripts to gather keywords from data sources. I know others have done the same many times over. You'll never find them

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
I've personally written about a dozen scripts to gather keywords from data sources. I know others have done the same many times over. You'll never find them

Yeah, that's what I suspected.

Darn you all! Darn you ALL to HECK, I say!!

WiredGuy · 06-15-2004, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Thanks WG No, it's not trademarked. I'll see what kind of reply I get from the first four, if any.

I've always depended on the kindess of strangers.

On the good side of things, for ellinude and "elli nude" you outrank this webmaster. Seeing that surfers are getting to your site first and finding what they were looking for, I wouldn't be too worried about it.

WG

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
On the good side of things, for ellinude and "elli nude" you outrank this webmaster. Seeing that surfers are getting to your site first and finding what they were looking for, I wouldn't be too worried about it.

WG

I do now, but i didn't before. Those are the ones Google actually did remove for me that haven't been replaced yet.

WiredGuy · 06-15-2004, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Elli
Yeah, that's what I suspected.

Darn you all! Darn you ALL to HECK, I say!!

It's true though, checking your name against some of the more common data sources (ie: overture, wordtracker), your name came up a couple times:

487 elli nude
28 elli jpg nude

Webmasters who don't both filtering their keywords (just targetting massive amounts of keywords without checking if its relevant) will often grab traffic for your name.

WG

DarkJedi · 06-15-2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtyone
I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump

lol, report what ?
neither "Elli" nor "Nude" is trademarked/copyrighted.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It's true though, checking your name against some of the more common data sources (ie: overture, wordtracker), your name came up a couple times:

487 elli nude
28 elli jpg nude

Webmasters who don't both filtering their keywords (just targetting massive amounts of keywords without checking if its relevant) will often grab traffic for your name.

WG

Well, success has its price, I suppose.

We really do need a "rolling eyes" smilie.

beergood · 06-15-2004, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It's true though, checking your name against some of the more common data sources (ie: overture, wordtracker), your name came up a couple times:

487 elli nude
28 elli jpg nude

Webmasters who don't both filtering their keywords (just targetting massive amounts of keywords without checking if its relevant) will often grab traffic for your name.

WG

Very true. I've written keyword farming scripts trying to exclude terms such as various adult, illegal, etc. You can never get them all out. I definitely wouldn't think to flag "Elli"

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by beergood
Very true. I've written keyword farming scripts trying to exclude terms such as various adult, illegal, etc. You can never get them all out. I definitely wouldn't think to flag "Elli"

Didn't I just darn you to heck? Why are you still here?

{fusion} · 06-15-2004, 11:31 AM

at least you know your famous now.

beergood · 06-15-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Elli
Didn't I just darn you to heck? Why are you still here?

haha, I live in Louisiana so I was darned to heck 26 years ago.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by beergood
haha, I live in Louisiana so I was darned to heck 26 years ago.

Well that's unfortunate. Ah well, at least you have good Cajun food down there! Good luck finding good Cajun in Vancouver!

beergood · 06-15-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by Elli
Well that's unfortunate. Ah well, at least you have good Cajun food down there! Good luck finding good Cajun in Vancouver!

Hey I'm a pretty good cook, maybe I should move to Vancouver and open a cajun restaraunt. I'd get damned a whole lot less that way.

WiredGuy · 06-15-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by beergood
Very true. I've written keyword farming scripts trying to exclude terms such as various adult, illegal, etc. You can never get them all out. I definitely wouldn't think to flag "Elli"

Same here, I usually filter out the common ones like child, kids, lolita, under age and then manually filter the rest. I know too many people who don't care and just target anything they can get.

WG

Tuna · 06-15-2004, 11:44 AM

sorry for your luck i dont think there is much you can do about except make sure your rank higher than them.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Same here, I usually filter out the common ones like child, kids, lolita, under age and then manually filter the rest. I know too many people who don't care and just target anything they can get.

WG

I think this calls for some ice cream to cheer us all up. Who's up for some Cherry Garcia?

PowerCum · 06-15-2004, 11:55 AM

Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those

nastyking · 06-15-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by PowerCum
Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those

lol ... that rocks

beergood · 06-15-2004, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum
Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those

damn man thats one step shy of going to their house with gasoline and a baseball bat.

Jon · 06-15-2004, 12:27 PM

Elli-

Actually you can do something about it. You can copyright your name, and document all of the records that goes with it, as well as document in what context you use your copryright. Obviously it's your personal name, and you use it to brand yourself and your content, which is 100% legal in regards to the keyword they are using. Those URL's are all cloaked, as you can see when you click on them they automatically redirect to some other page. To find the individual do a WHOIS on their ass, and get into contact with their host with a nasty letter or something saying that they are violating copyright laws. But do this after you've really gone through the legal process of copyright.

Jon · 06-15-2004, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum
Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those

Justice may have been served, but if you had gotten caught for that, you'd be in deep shit, not only with them, but with the cops. Next time think before you act.

Elli · 06-15-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Elli-

Actually you can do something about it. You can copyright your name, and document all of the records that goes with it, as well as document in what context you use your copryright. Obviously it's your personal name, and you use it to brand yourself and your content, which is 100% legal in regards to the keyword they are using. Those URL's are all cloaked, as you can see when you click on them they automatically redirect to some other page. To find the individual do a WHOIS on their ass, and get into contact with their host with a nasty letter or something saying that they are violating copyright laws. But do this after you've really gone through the legal process of copyright.

Thanks for the advice! I have been putting that off for too long, I think!

Basic_man · 06-15-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by davethetruth
There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.

Maybe she can take a look at the domain registrar !

06-15-2004, 10:18 AM	#1
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	SEO Misinformation I did a little search today, and found some people who are using my name in their filenames to get higher Google rankings. Of course I do not actually appear on their sites. The URLs are ones like: http://www.jordan-capri.info/blowjob...e_blowjob.html www.www-mac-and-bumble.com/ cumshots/ellinude_blowjob.html www.adult-entertainment-xxx.com/ blowjob/ellinude-blowjob.html http://www.www-webyoung-com.com/blow...e_blowjob.html These show up as "Supplemental Results". Obviously they are messed up URLs entered solely for the keyword values. But how do I find what SEO person is doing this, and how to I ask them as nicely as is humanly possible to STOP using my keyword?! __________________ email: [email protected]

06-15-2004, 10:26 AM	#2
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06-15-2004, 10:26 AM	#3
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I see noone has replied. Interesting. So has noone ever had this happen to them? __________________ email: [email protected]

06-15-2004, 10:30 AM	#7
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	It happens all the time and it sucks. I've been told that unless you have your name trademarked, there's nothing you can really do. This happens to all of the big and even small guys. What you COULD do is run a WHOIS on the domain, contact the owner and try to work out some sort of deal with him. If I remember correctly, you don't have an affiliate program, but maybe you could offer something in return. Odds are he won't care and you'll just have to get over it. A couple people pissed me off doing this. So guess what I'm doing? Taking the spots back. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

06-15-2004, 11:03 AM	#18
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	So, my next question would be: How do I find the lovely person who has written the script? Or does it come up with popular Google searches on its own? Results 181 - 190 of about 7,750 for ellinude-blowjob. That's 7,750 pages using that script at least. __________________ email: [email protected]

06-15-2004, 10:30 AM	#5
dirtyone Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: God's Country (Georgia) Posts: 3,706	I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump

06-15-2004, 10:33 AM	#9
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	lol those sites are generated automatically they created a big keyword list and the script does the rest your site name was in there... This doesn't happen on purpose believe me. they dont give about you and your site lol I hope you appreciate that honest answer ;)

06-15-2004, 10:58 AM	#17
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	hes a big SE spammer, seen him around alot

06-15-2004, 11:05 AM	#19
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	http://www.lesbian-sex-free.biz/blow...e-blowjob.html how do they get away with that beats me.

06-15-2004, 11:11 AM	#21
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	As for your best bet, contacting the webmaster and hoping he'll remove you from his keyword list is best. If he still won't listen, try going through his sponsor lists (primarily the ones he's targetting from pages with your name in them) and see which ones you're on good terms with. Try contacting them and see if they can relay the message to the webmaster. More than likely, there is very little you can actually do about this however since ellinude is not a trademark (it might be but I didn't check). Without a TM, the sponsor programs are just contacting the webmaster out of courtesy, nothing more... Hopefully this works out for you WG __________________ I play with Google.

06-15-2004, 11:31 AM	#34
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	at least you know your famous now.

06-15-2004, 11:44 AM	#39
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06-15-2004, 11:55 AM	#41
PowerCum CjOverkill Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woldwide Posts: 1,328	Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them. I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those __________________ CjOverkill Traffic Trading Script Free, secure and fast traffic trading script. Get your copy now

06-15-2004, 12:27 PM	#44
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	Elli- Actually you can do something about it. You can copyright your name, and document all of the records that goes with it, as well as document in what context you use your copryright. Obviously it's your personal name, and you use it to brand yourself and your content, which is 100% legal in regards to the keyword they are using. Those URL's are all cloaked, as you can see when you click on them they automatically redirect to some other page. To find the individual do a WHOIS on their ass, and get into contact with their host with a nasty letter or something saying that they are violating copyright laws. But do this after you've really gone through the legal process of copyright. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...