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Elli 06-15-2004 10:18 AM

SEO Misinformation
 
I did a little search today, and found some people who are using my name in their filenames to get higher Google rankings. Of course I do not actually appear on their sites. The URLs are ones like:

http://www.jordan-capri.info/blowjob...e_blowjob.html

www.www-mac-and-bumble.com/ cumshots/ellinude_blowjob.html

www.adult-entertainment-xxx.com/ blowjob/ellinude-blowjob.html

http://www.www-webyoung-com.com/blow...e_blowjob.html

These show up as "Supplemental Results".

Obviously they are messed up URLs entered solely for the keyword values. But how do I find what SEO person is doing this, and how to I ask them as nicely as is humanly possible to STOP using my keyword?!

davethetruth 06-15-2004 10:26 AM

There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.

Elli 06-15-2004 10:26 AM

I see noone has replied. Interesting. So has noone ever had this happen to them?

Elli 06-15-2004 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by davethetruth
There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.
It's obviously an SEO person, because the URLS have the same space and extra www- at the beginning. So I hate to bug the domain owner, who is very unlikely to know exactly what tricks their SEO guy is up to.

dirtyone 06-15-2004 10:30 AM

I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump

sacX 06-15-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by davethetruth
There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.
best idea.

Sly_RJ 06-15-2004 10:30 AM

It happens all the time and it sucks. I've been told that unless you have your name trademarked, there's nothing you can really do. This happens to all of the big and even small guys.

What you COULD do is run a WHOIS on the domain, contact the owner and try to work out some sort of deal with him. If I remember correctly, you don't have an affiliate program, but maybe you could offer something in return. Odds are he won't care and you'll just have to get over it.

A couple people pissed me off doing this. So guess what I'm doing? Taking the spots back. :winkwink:

Elli 06-15-2004 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtyone
I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump
I have complained repeatedly to Google, but either they don't dump the URLs in question or the guy is very persistant in submitting.

Trax 06-15-2004 10:33 AM

lol
those sites are generated automatically

they created a big keyword list and the script does the rest
your site name was in there... This doesn't happen on purpose believe me.
they dont give :2 cents: about you and your site lol

I hope you appreciate that honest answer ;)

beergood 06-15-2004 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
lol
those sites are generated automatically

they created a big keyword list and the script does the rest
your site name was in there... This doesn't happen on purpose believe me.
they dont give :2 cents: about you and your site lol

I hope you appreciate that honest answer ;)

yep. Chances are they never even heard of you. You could try complaining to their hosting company.

Trax 06-15-2004 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
yep. Chances are they never even heard of you. You could try complaining to their hosting company.
they will laugh at her.
If her name is no trademark or copyrighted she can do NOTHING

what are they doing that is illegal besides the SE spam lol?
Elli is a normal name
It doesn't make a difference if it is
Elli nude
Fred nude
whothefuckeverwhosnameisnotprotected nude

you can do nothing!

Elli 06-15-2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
they will laugh at her.
If her name is no trademark or copyrighted she can do NOTHING

what are they doing that is illegal besides the SE spam lol?
Elli is a normal name
It doesn't make a difference if it is
Elli nude
Fred nude
whothefuckeverwhosnameisnotprotected nude

you can do nothing!

Yes, thank you for your honesty. I didn't realize it was a generated script. Oh well, I only sent 4 emails so far. :(

Trax 06-15-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Yes, thank you for your honesty. I didn't realize it was a generated script. Oh well, I only sent 4 emails so far. :(
you can kindly ask if they could remove you from the script
whine a bit saying its your only income or something

apart from that I wouldn't expect any big changes
sorry :(

Platinumpimp 06-15-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
I did a little search today, and found some people who are using my name in their filenames to get higher Google rankings. Of course I do not actually appear on their sites. The URLs are ones like:

http://www.jordan-capri.info/blowjob...e_blowjob.html

www.www-mac-and-bumble.com/ cumshots/ellinude_blowjob.html

www.adult-entertainment-xxx.com/ blowjob/ellinude-blowjob.html

http://www.www-webyoung-com.com/blow...e_blowjob.html

These show up as "Supplemental Results".

Obviously they are messed up URLs entered solely for the keyword values. But how do I find what SEO person is doing this, and how to I ask them as nicely as is humanly possible to STOP using my keyword?!

what exactly is your point? You think you are the only one in the world that is called Elli? :winkwink:

Elli 06-15-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
you can kindly ask if they could remove you from the script
whine a bit saying its your only income or something

apart from that I wouldn't expect any big changes
sorry :(

Ok, thanks for the help. I will see what I can do and how charming I can be. :)

Elli 06-15-2004 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
what exactly is your point? You think you are the only one in the world that is called Elli? :winkwink:
No, but I do have a site at ellinude.com, which is the keyword they are going after.

{fusion} 06-15-2004 10:58 AM

hes a big SE spammer, seen him around alot

Elli 06-15-2004 11:03 AM

So, my next question would be:

How do I find the lovely person who has written the script? Or does it come up with popular Google searches on its own?

Results 181 - 190 of about 7,750 for ellinude-blowjob.

That's 7,750 pages using that script at least.

{fusion} 06-15-2004 11:05 AM

http://www.lesbian-sex-free.biz/blow...e-blowjob.html

how do they get away with that beats me.

WiredGuy 06-15-2004 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
I have complained repeatedly to Google, but either they don't dump the URLs in question or the guy is very persistant in submitting.
To be honest Google will do nothing. Best case scenario (and very doubtful it will ever happen), they remove the page. Whats to stop the SE guy from doing it again on a new domain.

WG

WiredGuy 06-15-2004 11:11 AM

As for your best bet, contacting the webmaster and hoping he'll remove you from his keyword list is best. If he still won't listen, try going through his sponsor lists (primarily the ones he's targetting from pages with your name in them) and see which ones you're on good terms with. Try contacting them and see if they can relay the message to the webmaster. More than likely, there is very little you can actually do about this however since ellinude is not a trademark (it might be but I didn't check). Without a TM, the sponsor programs are just contacting the webmaster out of courtesy, nothing more...

Hopefully this works out for you :)
WG

Elli 06-15-2004 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
To be honest Google will do nothing. Best case scenario (and very doubtful it will ever happen), they remove the page. Whats to stop the SE guy from doing it again on a new domain.

WG

Yes, that is what I found, so I gave up contacting Google about it. I wish I had more weight to throw around, but I'm just a single person. Ah well. I guess I could buy the same script.... :Graucho

Elli 06-15-2004 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
As for your best bet, contacting the webmaster and hoping he'll remove you from his keyword list is best. If he still won't listen, try going through his sponsor lists (primarily the ones he's targetting from pages with your name in them) and see which ones you're on good terms with. Try contacting them and see if they can relay the message to the webmaster. More than likely, there is very little you can actually do about this however since ellinude is not a trademark (it might be but I didn't check). Without a TM, the sponsor programs are just contacting the webmaster out of courtesy, nothing more...

Hopefully this works out for you :)
WG

Thanks WG :) No, it's not trademarked. I'll see what kind of reply I get from the first four, if any.

I've always depended on the kindess of strangers. :winkwink:

beergood 06-15-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
they will laugh at her.
If her name is no trademark or copyrighted she can do NOTHING

what are they doing that is illegal besides the SE spam lol?
Elli is a normal name
It doesn't make a difference if it is
Elli nude
Fred nude
whothefuckeverwhosnameisnotprotected nude

you can do nothing!

Perhaps, it depends on the person. From personal experience alot of times the host will pick up the phone and let the site owner know there was a complaint. I suppose the name Elli wouldn't carry alot of weight but if it bothers her then why not try at least?

beergood 06-15-2004 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
So, my next question would be:

How do I find the lovely person who has written the script? Or does it come up with popular Google searches on its own?

Results 181 - 190 of about 7,750 for ellinude-blowjob.

That's 7,750 pages using that script at least.


I've personally written about a dozen scripts to gather keywords from data sources. I know others have done the same many times over. You'll never find them

Elli 06-15-2004 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
I've personally written about a dozen scripts to gather keywords from data sources. I know others have done the same many times over. You'll never find them
Yeah, that's what I suspected.

Darn you all! Darn you ALL to HECK, I say!!

WiredGuy 06-15-2004 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Thanks WG :) No, it's not trademarked. I'll see what kind of reply I get from the first four, if any.

I've always depended on the kindess of strangers. :winkwink:

On the good side of things, for ellinude and "elli nude" you outrank this webmaster. Seeing that surfers are getting to your site first and finding what they were looking for, I wouldn't be too worried about it.

WG

Elli 06-15-2004 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
On the good side of things, for ellinude and "elli nude" you outrank this webmaster. Seeing that surfers are getting to your site first and finding what they were looking for, I wouldn't be too worried about it.

WG

I do now, but i didn't before. Those are the ones Google actually did remove for me that haven't been replaced yet.

WiredGuy 06-15-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Yeah, that's what I suspected.

Darn you all! Darn you ALL to HECK, I say!!


It's true though, checking your name against some of the more common data sources (ie: overture, wordtracker), your name came up a couple times:

487 elli nude
28 elli jpg nude

Webmasters who don't both filtering their keywords (just targetting massive amounts of keywords without checking if its relevant) will often grab traffic for your name.

WG

DarkJedi 06-15-2004 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtyone
I am not a big search engine person but I would think you could report the abuse to the search engine(s) in question... bump

lol, report what ?
neither "Elli" nor "Nude" is trademarked/copyrighted.

Elli 06-15-2004 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It's true though, checking your name against some of the more common data sources (ie: overture, wordtracker), your name came up a couple times:

487 elli nude
28 elli jpg nude

Webmasters who don't both filtering their keywords (just targetting massive amounts of keywords without checking if its relevant) will often grab traffic for your name.

WG

Well, success has its price, I suppose.

We really do need a "rolling eyes" smilie.

beergood 06-15-2004 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It's true though, checking your name against some of the more common data sources (ie: overture, wordtracker), your name came up a couple times:

487 elli nude
28 elli jpg nude

Webmasters who don't both filtering their keywords (just targetting massive amounts of keywords without checking if its relevant) will often grab traffic for your name.

WG


Very true. I've written keyword farming scripts trying to exclude terms such as various adult, illegal, etc. You can never get them all out. I definitely wouldn't think to flag "Elli"

Elli 06-15-2004 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
Very true. I've written keyword farming scripts trying to exclude terms such as various adult, illegal, etc. You can never get them all out. I definitely wouldn't think to flag "Elli"
Didn't I just darn you to heck? Why are you still here?

:Graucho

{fusion} 06-15-2004 11:31 AM

at least you know your famous now. :)

beergood 06-15-2004 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Didn't I just darn you to heck? Why are you still here?

:Graucho

haha, I live in Louisiana so I was darned to heck 26 years ago. :winkwink:

Elli 06-15-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
haha, I live in Louisiana so I was darned to heck 26 years ago. :winkwink:
Well that's unfortunate. Ah well, at least you have good Cajun food down there! Good luck finding good Cajun in Vancouver! :disgust

beergood 06-15-2004 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Well that's unfortunate. Ah well, at least you have good Cajun food down there! Good luck finding good Cajun in Vancouver! :disgust
Hey I'm a pretty good cook, maybe I should move to Vancouver and open a cajun restaraunt. I'd get damned a whole lot less that way.

WiredGuy 06-15-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beergood
Very true. I've written keyword farming scripts trying to exclude terms such as various adult, illegal, etc. You can never get them all out. I definitely wouldn't think to flag "Elli"
Same here, I usually filter out the common ones like child, kids, lolita, under age and then manually filter the rest. I know too many people who don't care and just target anything they can get.

WG

Tuna 06-15-2004 11:44 AM

sorry for your luck i dont think there is much you can do about except make sure your rank higher than them.

Elli 06-15-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Same here, I usually filter out the common ones like child, kids, lolita, under age and then manually filter the rest. I know too many people who don't care and just target anything they can get.

WG

I think this calls for some ice cream to cheer us all up. Who's up for some Cherry Garcia? :Graucho

PowerCum 06-15-2004 11:55 AM

Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those :)

nastyking 06-15-2004 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum
Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those :)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

lol ... that rocks

:thumbsup

beergood 06-15-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum
Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those :)

damn man thats one step shy of going to their house with gasoline and a baseball bat.

Jon 06-15-2004 12:27 PM

Elli-

Actually you can do something about it. You can copyright your name, and document all of the records that goes with it, as well as document in what context you use your copryright. Obviously it's your personal name, and you use it to brand yourself and your content, which is 100% legal in regards to the keyword they are using. Those URL's are all cloaked, as you can see when you click on them they automatically redirect to some other page. To find the individual do a WHOIS on their ass, and get into contact with their host with a nasty letter or something saying that they are violating copyright laws. But do this after you've really gone through the legal process of copyright.

Jon 06-15-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PowerCum
Some time ago something like that happened to me too, but they were targeting my domain.com instead of just the keyword. As I am a rude bitch and my modals are not so refinated I just hacked the server, changed all their fotos with horses, sheeps and goats and then reported to their hosting provider that they were hosting animal porn on the server. It took me a couple of days to upload 5 GB of animals content, but after reporting them they lost their 1 year in front paid dedicated box. After that they complained to me by email but I don't care about them.

I find more stuff like that from time to time, but I have found a more productive method to deal with all those :)

Justice may have been served, but if you had gotten caught for that, you'd be in deep shit, not only with them, but with the cops. Next time think before you act.

Elli 06-15-2004 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Elli-

Actually you can do something about it. You can copyright your name, and document all of the records that goes with it, as well as document in what context you use your copryright. Obviously it's your personal name, and you use it to brand yourself and your content, which is 100% legal in regards to the keyword they are using. Those URL's are all cloaked, as you can see when you click on them they automatically redirect to some other page. To find the individual do a WHOIS on their ass, and get into contact with their host with a nasty letter or something saying that they are violating copyright laws. But do this after you've really gone through the legal process of copyright.

Thanks for the advice! I have been putting that off for too long, I think!

Basic_man 06-15-2004 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by davethetruth
There's nothing you can do about it to my knowledge. If you would like to try to ask them to stop, do a whois on the urls.
Maybe she can take a look at the domain registrar !


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