Michigan teacher claims she was fired for organizing Trayvon Martin fundraiser - GoFuckYourself.com

Just Alex · 04-10-2012, 07:08 PM

Props to superintendent .

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"I was told I was a bad teacher, that I was being unprofessional, that I'm being paid to teach, not to be an activist. When I tried to defend myself, it was construed as insubordination," Harris told the Detroit Free Press.

and here comes another lawsuit

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Cassell said she is a "child of the civil rights movement" and has supported the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/detroit/...144713504.html

candyflip · 04-10-2012, 07:09 PM

I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

globofun · 04-10-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

The Black Panthers?

brassmonkey · 04-10-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Props to superintendent .

and here comes another lawsuit

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/detroit/...144713504.html

you ever protest? i've been a few in my life time. you going to sign the petition to get her job back?

Just Alex · 04-10-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you ever protest? i've been a few in my life time. you going to sign the petition to get her job back?

On my own time.
I would want my child to be part of someone protest if that person is ignorant to not know that Im not paying her to protest but teach my child. You can have prayer but this is OK? Oh wait, I almost forgot who Im talking to. Never mind.

DBS.US · 04-10-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

Flowers

brassmonkey · 04-10-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

On my own time.
I would want my child to be part of someone protest if that person is ignorant to not know that Im not paying her to protest but teach my child. You can have prayer but this is OK? Oh wait, I almost forgot who Im talking to. Never mind.

the government has too much power. now the school charges a fee to wear street clothes. those assholes have lost their minds

its to late for prayer.

Rochard · 04-10-2012, 10:11 PM

I understand that social issues effect students and schools, but a teacher taking a position on this issue is sending the wrong message. The teacher is showing the kids that people are no longer innocent until proven guilty, which is the direct opposite of their job. I think this poor kid was murdered, but that doesn't mean we can assume the shooter was guilty. That's what a court of law is for.

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I don't understand why people are taking up the cause of fundraising for someone who was killed.

What are they supporting with their donations?

That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?

edgeprod · 04-10-2012, 10:56 PM

Good call here. We don't need more indoctrination in schools. As role models, teachers should teach, not get involved in causes or indoctrination in any form -- religious, political, etc.

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Good call here. We don't need more indoctrination in schools. As role models, teachers should teach, not get involved in causes or indoctrination in any form -- religious, political, etc.

that's your opinion. anyway she'll get paid and laugh all the way to the bank. hopefully

Sunny Day · 04-11-2012, 02:10 AM

That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?[/QUOTE]
Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.

DWB · 04-11-2012, 03:30 AM

The school is correct. She is there to teach, not be an activist of any kind.

u-Bob · 04-11-2012, 03:57 AM

Who's this Trayvon guy?

mopek1 · 04-11-2012, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

The school is correct. She is there to teach, not be an activist of any kind.

Schools fund raise all the time for charities, cancer, environmental issues. I would consider that 'activism' behavior.

Fletch XXX · 04-11-2012, 04:49 AM

""I was told I was a bad teacher, that I was being unprofessional, that I'm being paid to teach, not to be an activist. When I tried to defend myself, it was construed as insubordination," Harris told the Detroit Free Press. "

teachers need to stay focused and not use their position for political activism.

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Schools fund raise all the time for charities, cancer, environmental issues. I would consider that 'activism' behavior.

Kinda different from fundraising money for questionable person (unless you're black ofcourse).

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

that's your opinion. anyway she'll get paid and laugh all the way to the bank. hopefully

Probably not. Sounds like it wasn't her first time getting warned about doing the job she's paid to do. But she will certainly try.
Good riddance.

Freaky_Akula · 04-11-2012, 06:17 AM

She should never again be allowed to teach.

Scott McD · 04-11-2012, 06:25 AM

Fuck her! She should have stuck to doing the job she was paid to do.

I bet I already know what she looks like...

L-Pink · 04-11-2012, 06:28 AM

raymor · 04-11-2012, 06:44 AM

It sounds like the superintendent is saying she was not fired for organizing a fundraiser, but for spending class time engaging in activism rather than teaching. If she had been sleeping through classes she could have been fired.

As an English and journalism teacher, she had the kids writing about the murder of Trayvon Martin, who called himself "No Limit Nigga" and apparently that was okay - English class is for writing. Apparently it was when her classes stopped having anything to do with the subject she was supposed to be teaching that there was an issue.

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

Apparently it was when her classes stopped having anything to do with the subject she was supposed to be teaching that there was an issue.

You sure it wasn't because she was black and the entire world was against her?

raymor · 04-11-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Schools fund raise all the time for charities, cancer, environmental issues. I would consider that 'activism' behavior.

I agree, that happens a lot and it's activism. When I was young, we were taught about how by the year 2000 the world would be destroyed by global warming, that California would be underwater. It's 2012, California is still there, and China FAR outranks us in reading, math, and science. We owe them trillions because we've become stupid compared to most developed nations, spending our time indoctrinating kids instead of educating them. At the private school I visited, kids were four to six years ahead of public school - on par with kids in China and North Korea.

raymor · 04-11-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

You sure it wasn't because she was black and the entire world was against her?

Probably the president made a call to have her fired.

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 07:06 AM

she signed a contract it better be in there. you cant go outside of the contract and make up stuff.looks like she has a solid case.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_lif...undraiser.html

Best-In-BC · 04-11-2012, 07:15 AM

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LOL, yeah, cause he got beat up

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

she signed a contract it better be in there. you cant go outside of the contract and make up stuff.looks like she has a solid case.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_lif...undraiser.html

Its amazing how 24/7 board monkeys read one stinking article and conclude that someone has "solid case".
Michigan is employee at will state. Educate yourself dumbo.

http://research.lawyers.com/Michigan...-Michigan.html

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Its amazing how 24/7 board monkeys read one stinking article and conclude that someone has "solid case".
Michigan is employee at will state. Educate yourself dumbo.

http://research.lawyers.com/Michigan...-Michigan.html

that has nothing to do with the contract wtf are you saying. that's employment law

there better be a clause in the contract that say fundraising has to be cleared with the principal or the education superintendent.

if not it will seem its more of a personal decision.

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

that has nothing to do with the contract wtf are you saying. that's employment law

there better be a clause in the contract that say fundraising has to be cleared with the principal or the education superintendent.

if not it will seem its more of a personal decision.

What kind of contract Tyrone? Her contract was to teach literature and journalism. Have you ever had a real job?

Contract my ass.

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

What kind of contract Tyrone? Her contract was to teach literature and journalism. Have you ever had a real job?

Contract my ass.

hector your a angry man look it up

Harris signed an employment contract

A Michigan teacher is petitioning for reinstatement after she was suspended, and then fired, for allegedly helping students try to organize a Trayvon Martin fundraiser. The school, however, denies that's why she was fired, the Detroit Free Press reports.

oh and the school is now saying that's not the reason

damage control

michael.kickass · 04-11-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Fuck her! She should have stuck to doing the job she was paid to do.

I bet I already know what she looks like...

I just can't agree more.

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

hector your a angry man look it up

Harris signed an employment contract

A Michigan teacher is petitioning for reinstatement after she was suspended, and then fired, for allegedly helping students try to organize a Trayvon Martin fundraiser. The school, however, denies that's why she was fired, the Detroit Free Press reports.

oh and the school is now saying that's not the reason

damage control

Thats what my question was my little welfare recipient. Have you ever seen employment letter and contract in non-union company with "employee at will" status? Don't bother answering, I know it already .

Tom_PM · 04-11-2012, 07:55 AM

I never liked when teachers dragged us into discussions on Vietnam, and I dont like that this teacher dragged her students into a discussion about this case. She should have done that on her own time and used the schools community bulletin board to advertise it. IMHO.

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Thats what my question was my little welfare recipient. Have you ever seen employment letter and contract in non-union company with "employee at will" status? Don't bother answering, I know it already .

clueless

amigo. any hoo the court will decide it not me. have a nice day dude

have work to do ttyl.

Rochard · 04-11-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunny Day

That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?

Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.[/QUOTE]

I use the wrong term. There is a one time death benefit of $255. However, there is survivor benefit.

My father died in 1969 in Vietnam when I was nine months old. My mother collected SSN for both her husband having died, and also on my behalf because my father died. My mother collected until she re-married, and collected for me until I turned 18.

I just pulled out my last statement from SSN, and if my child dies I collect $1533 a month. My wife would get the same.

L-Pink · 04-11-2012, 08:30 AM

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I just pulled out my last statement from SSN, and if my child dies I collect $1533 a month. My wife would get the same.

Why does a person receive government money if a dependent dies? Makes no sense?

.

SuckOnThis · 04-11-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.

I use the wrong term. There is a one time death benefit of $255. However, there is survivor benefit.

My father died in 1969 in Vietnam when I was nine months old. My mother collected SSN for both her husband having died, and also on my behalf because my father died. My mother collected until she re-married, and collected for me until I turned 18.

I just pulled out my last statement from SSN, and if my child dies I collect $1533 a month. My wife would get the same.[/QUOTE]

You're wrong. If YOU die then your child will collect that amount, not if your child dies.

escorpio · 04-11-2012, 10:28 AM

Dis here be a lawsoot! Sista gurl gon' git paid!

escorpio · 04-11-2012, 10:31 AM

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candyflip · 04-11-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

that has nothing to do with the contract wtf are you saying. that's employment law

there better be a clause in the contract that say fundraising has to be cleared with the principal or the education superintendent.

if not it will seem its more of a personal decision.

Fundraising of any sort is typically something THAT ALWAYS has to be cleared by the principal or superintendent.

tony286 · 04-11-2012, 11:59 AM

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LOL, yeah, cause he got beat up

first thats not the kid. When I was young I had long hair, dyed jet black, wore a motorcycle jacket all the time . I was a rocker and that was the uniform of the rocker at the time. Would that give some guy license to follow me and when he got in my face if I confronted him. He would have the right to blow me away? And then they would show I worked in adult, so people would say oh he was right to shoot the porn scumbag?

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

first thats not the kid. When I was young I had long hair, dyed jet black, wore a motorcycle jacket all the time . I was a rocker and that was the uniform of the rocker at the time. Would that give some guy license to follow me and when he got in my face if I confronted him. He would have the right to blow me away? And then they would show I worked in adult, so people would say oh he was right to shoot the porn scumbag?

Jesus fucking Christ. For one million's time he didn't get shot because of how he looked, he got shot because he attacked another man. He didn't get followed because of the hoodie, he was followed because member of CITIZENS PATROL member did not recognized him as one of the residents and because they had 10 prior break-ins committed by black kids.

How dull do you have to be to get these two simple facts?

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Dis here be a lawsoot! Sista gurl gon' git paid!

nevermind...

tony286 · 04-11-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Jesus fucking Christ. For one million's time he didn't get shot because of how he looked, he got shot because he attacked another man. He didn't get followed because of the hoodie, he was followed because member of CITIZENS PATROL member did not recognized him as one of the residents and because they had 10 prior break-ins committed by black kids.

How dull do you have to be to get these two simple facts?

I belong to a watch, your job is to call the police not follow anyone. When the police come to talk to you they say it about 100x. Call the police do nothing call the police.
Also this is a guy with a history of violence like it or not.

ThunderBalls · 04-11-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Jesus fucking Christ. For one million's time he didn't get shot because of how he looked, he got shot because he attacked another man. He didn't get followed because of the hoodie, he was followed because member of CITIZENS PATROL member did not recognized him as one of the residents and because they had 10 prior break-ins committed by black kids.

How dull do you have to be to get these two simple facts?

10 break-ins caused by black kids? Where the fuck you getting this BS from? I go days without visiting this board and every time I come back there you are with your racist rants, is this the only thing you have to do day and night? Do you have a fucking life?

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 01:03 PM

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10 break-ins caused by black kids? Where the fuck you getting this BS from? I go days without visiting this board and every time I come back there you are with your racist rants, is this the only thing you have to do day and night? Do you have a fucking life?

im guessing he lives near the area

Tom_PM · 04-11-2012, 01:29 PM

What is the evidence again that he attacked? Oh yeah, it's the story of the guy who shot him.

Trend · 04-11-2012, 01:43 PM

So do you think in general, black / white racial harmony can exist in the USA?

For what it's worth here is my

1 to 1 : sure .. even I have black friends. (but I never get together with them as a group)

1 to many: Nope Why: Because some of the stereotypes on both sides are true & intolerable to the other.

Many to one: Nope. same reason as above.

Many to Many: Nope. same reason as above

And the more race issues are raised the deeper the divide becomes... on both sides.

Just look at the rhetoric in the Brittany Watts murder or the Brian Nichols case.

"Brian Nichols wanted to start a race war, believing that Black males were being unfairly incarcerated by an evil society bent on maintaining white supremacy. In actuality, it's just Black people's ? primarily Black males? ?predilection for breaking the law that sees them incarcerated in such disproportionate numbers."

That one little paragraph says it all IMO. Truths & deep seeded animosities. It may be unfortunate but it is true.

brassmonkey · 04-11-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trend

So do you think in general, black / white racial harmony can exist in the USA?

For what it's worth here is my

1 to 1 : sure .. even I have black friends. (but I never get together with them as a group)

1 to many: Nope Why: Because some of the stereotypes on both sides are true & intolerable to the other.

Many to one: Nope. same reason as above.

Many to Many: Nope. same reason as above

And the more race issues are raised the deeper the divide becomes... on both sides.

Just look at the rhetoric in the Brittany Watts murder or the Brian Nichols case.

"Brian Nichols wanted to start a race war, believing that Black males were being unfairly incarcerated by an evil society bent on maintaining white supremacy. In actuality, it's just Black people's ? primarily Black males? ?predilection for breaking the law that sees them incarcerated in such disproportionate numbers."

That one little paragraph says it all IMO. Truths & deep seeded animosities. It may be unfortunate but it is true.

most people have multiple races in their family. the racist are the minority

Just Alex · 04-11-2012, 03:42 PM

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What is the evidence again that he attacked? Oh yeah, it's the story of the guy who shot him.

And a witness, and a video of his head bleeding. But never mind those, just stay ignorant.

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Sunny Day Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,406	SS Death Benefit That's a damn good question. What are the donations going to? The mother, who will now get a $1300 social security death benefit for the rest of her life? The father, who will get the same?[/QUOTE] Social Security Death Benefit is a ONE TIME payment. Not for ever and is about $250-350 depending on the persons age and money they paid into Social Security. Had he been a father, his children would get Social Security until 18, but no mother or father gets a lifetime payment for a dead son.

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raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	It sounds like the superintendent is saying she was not fired for organizing a fundraiser, but for spending class time engaging in activism rather than teaching. If she had been sleeping through classes she could have been fired. As an English and journalism teacher, she had the kids writing about the murder of Trayvon Martin, who called himself "No Limit Nigga" and apparently that was okay - English class is for writing. Apparently it was when her classes stopped having anything to do with the subject she was supposed to be teaching that there was an issue. Last edited by raymor; 04-11-2012 at 06:57 AM..

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Trend Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mexico and Midwest Posts: 612	So do you think in general, black / white racial harmony can exist in the USA? For what it's worth here is my 1 to 1 : sure .. even I have black friends. (but I never get together with them as a group) 1 to many: Nope Why: Because some of the stereotypes on both sides are true & intolerable to the other. Many to one: Nope. same reason as above. Many to Many: Nope. same reason as above And the more race issues are raised the deeper the divide becomes... on both sides. Just look at the rhetoric in the Brittany Watts murder or the Brian Nichols case. "Brian Nichols wanted to start a race war, believing that Black males were being unfairly incarcerated by an evil society bent on maintaining white supremacy. In actuality, it's just Black people's ? primarily Black males? ?predilection for breaking the law that sees them incarcerated in such disproportionate numbers." That one little paragraph says it all IMO. Truths & deep seeded animosities. It may be unfortunate but it is true.