If it time for Lars and AFF to leave the building?
 

I am being non-judgemental here. I want to hear YOUR opinions, and I want to see your votes.

The concept: Since 2006, it has been shown that AFF (a) Uses toolbar products to drive customers to their sites, in a manner that could cost affilates sales, (b) sponsor torrent sites that provide access to content stolen from other adult programs, and (c) sponsor torrent sites that have CP and other illegal material on them, and other issues.

Clear proof has been provided at each step which should these things to be apparently true.

Has AFF's goals and business methods become a negative for online porn? Does their presence as part of the "porn" business raise a major conflict of interest? Is AFF sucking the adult industry dry, profiting from the illegal distribution of copyrighted material? As such, should they leave GFY and other adult boards and move off somewhere else?

Your opinion: Should AFF leave the building?

Thats funny, i was just posting a pic in another thread with the name Lars. Guess i can use it here too.

http://teenportals.com/lars5.jpg

"leave the building" - ie, get off this board.

That's soooooo wrong!


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Our opinions or not, they won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

so far 3 people who promote AFF (Cyberhustler, Franck, TurboAngel) have posted in this thread but no one voted yet "they should stay"?

I don't see an option for "I don't agree with the way they do things, but this is a FUCKING INDUSTRY BOARD not a fucking playground"
If how they do things doesn't sit well with you don't promote them
I know I don't.

I don't see an option for "I don't agree with the way they do things, but this is a FUCKING INDUSTRY BOARD not a fucking playground"
If how they do things doesn't sit well with you don't promote them
I know I don't.

I don't see an option for "I don't agree with the way they do things, but this is a FUCKING INDUSTRY BOARD not a fucking playground"
If how they do things doesn't sit well with you don't promote them
I know I don't.

I don't see an option for "I don't agree with the way they do things, but this is a FUCKING INDUSTRY BOARD not a fucking playground"
If how they do things doesn't sit well with you don't promote them
I know I don't.

oops. sorry for the multiple post.

No need to apologize. This board runs like shit 98% of the time.

Virago, no problem... this board has issues at times, i guess.

So, what does everyone else think? So far 16 - 4 - 1, that is a pretty clear trend.

I hardly promote them at all, but I just love that everyone invokes the cp word about it. I reported the mentioned links to torrentspy and they were removed within hours. This to me says everyone saw the links, but decided to whine about aff having an affiliate that put their ads on their site. Instead of reporting the links like I did. So the big question is, do the guys that were brining up cp really care about it being there, or just want to use it as a tool in their aff hate arsenal?

Fuck opinions, what's the GFY management saying? Oh, right, ad money! :Graucho

Sticky, I do both - I report the content, and I ask the sponsors why they would want to be part of something that is so poorly managed and controlled that CP is easily distributed. Would you react differently if it was a CP TGP or a CP MGP?

Understand this very clearly: These torrent sites make their money by (a) stealing everyone elses content, either directly or through third parties, and (b) selling memberships to AFF with the traffic that results from this illegal or stolen material.

CP, site rips, pirate software, passwords, credit card databases... it's all there. Is there anything on a torrent site that AFF should be involved with?

See my sig! :)

what does one have to do with another? sanctions?

first of all, it will never happen, as they will do what they have to do to keep their advertising here, the biggest webmaster board

secondly, i dont like that shit any more than you do, but if it makes money, somebodys going to exploit it

you are asking lars to leave money on the table and he is saying he wont, for whatever reason, and you can decide to not promote him, what does that have to do with gfy?

Again torrent sites are a tool just like anything else it can be used for good or bad. The underlying problem is people not securing their own content, then they cry about aff instead of spending that time trying to find solutions to secure content while allowing users full access. Yet there are many vod sites that do not get their content ripped, and movie on demand in mainstream that also successfully keep their content. Adult used to innovate before mainstream did and they followed us, not its the opposite cuase everyone wants someone else to provide them a solution. :disgust

What the fuck are you smoking ???/ The ombilical cord of your lates born ????

You can fing on torrent sites, russian sites, newsgroups, irc , ... all content from mainstream or adult, no difference. Movies, software, musics, scripts, templates and so on ...

If you thing drm is protecting your content, you need a double slap in the face ... But while we are on the subject, even tough you do not operate a paysite, please explain how to " secure their own content " ....
We are listening.....

Leave money on the table? Take off the rose colored glasses for a second. You are saying essentially that the movie business shouldn't get upset at AFF if they gave away pirated DVDs with every membership to AFF - or if gas stations stole cars from dealerships and gave them away free every time you needed gas.

How about AFF can go to New York, and go to the guys that sell the pirated movies on the street, and ask them to add in some AFF ads on every movie... maybe a "free trial" coupon or something. Perhaps ask the crack dealers and escorts to give them out too, pay them a commission on every one.

Outlandish? Just somewhat extreme versions of what is going on. The mainstream movie industry wouldn't allow the pirate movie street vendors to be part of an industry group, why the heck should we tolerate AFF on the adult boards? They should spend their time on the torrent admin boards getting traffic, not here pissing people off and being arrogant pricks about it.

Stickyfingers, without much effort, you can find the material from almost every VOD site on the net online. Most surfers don't bother to rip VOD sites, through, as they have already ripped the same DVDs that the content came from, so why bother doing it twice (plus they get better encoding using a full DVD iso rather than a VOD file).

If you make a file, it can be stolen and redistributed and hacked if secured. Encouraging and paying a black market to exist and prosper certainly isn't helping things out, and AFF and AVN are leading the way in making sure that these torrent sites are not only present, but well rewarded for their crimes.

What the heck should paysites do (and don't say "DRM" because I won't be able to take you seriously after that)?

... keep your friends close... keep your enemies closer... with them here, what they do stays in the negative spotlight which is a good thing...

Foolish one that still knows nothing about me. So drm isnt working, so lets just throw up our hands and say here? Fucking moron. Did I say I had the answers how to secure content? No I didnt. But lets take a look at a few mainstream options.

http://myspace.com/fox

Lets see if someone can grab one of their streams. Saying something cant be done is just fucking stupid.

www.Tabooxxxvod.com grab one of the movies off my vod site. Show me you can do it.

Hey buy you know, it cant be done, so just let all your shit be stolen and freely distributed. The ones that figure out how to keep their content to be viewed only by paying subscribers wins the game. Why? They will have content that people cannot get to free, and if its something people really want to see then people will pay for it. End of story... But hey keep whining about how some torrent site is an affiliate of aff and aff should patrol every one of there huge amount of affiliates every single day. :uhoh

Wait what sites do you have df? Some ancient sites with fat chicks peeing with amateur content from 1997? lol

not your fault:winkwink:

You truly are arrogant.

if you shit plays on my screen, I can copy it - even if I just have to set up a digital camera and record it while it plays (no trace lines on my LCD monitor).

If it plays, it can be captured, it can be redistributed. Nobody bothers to rip your stuff because it's all available at the local video store or has already been ripped 10 times over. Further, you aren't the original producer of this content, so you wouldn't be the one getting ripped off, now would you?

As for fox, well: Why rip the day after stream when people have already digitized and torrented the original right from boardcast the day before? It is already way too fucking late in the cycle at that point - and if fox is giving it away for free, who the fuck would BOTHER to rip the stream?

Your arguments are super weak tea.

This is NOT your content .... this is just a branded portal, moron ... for adultrental.com ...

AS usual, just bs from you ....

I have a few paysites, and three dvd sales sites ( not mallcom ... but MINE ...).
Yes, my first site opened in 1997 , and is still running ....

And you ? still do hosting ? still do shopping carts ? still fish wires in walls ... still do body shop work .... You are a jack of all trades, but seems you cannot keep one ... failure is your catch phrase ....

And, you still didn't explain your great protection system ... tough you were fast to point the finger at the content producer here .... Aren't you a content producers, or that is also on the way out ??? :1orglaugh

Omg Do you not have a clue? Is our porn content broadcast on tv for people to rip? NO. So now then go rip the stream and show me it can be done.

Comparing setting up a camera in front of a monitor and taping it, then capturing it, and then encoding it to the real copy? lmao Seriously

So you are in the "it cant be done" crowd? Good now I know where you stand. lol

haha Imma have a good laugh in a few months. Fish wires in walls? lol

You have a few paysites ahh wow... And I did not say that was my content on my WHITE LABEL vod site sherlock. I said try to rip content from it. Have at it. You wont do it. Yes I am a content producer, and sell to some of the biggest programs on this board. Much more to come. All will be revealed in time.

If your sites or your dvd stores did well enough, you wouldnt be reselling hosting with a crappy site thats half in latin.. lol

you're incredibly naive if you think it's not possible to rip high quality from drm'd files.

As usual, something to come, but never anything at the time .... you live in lalaland ....

True, I should limit my income to your level .... :1orglaugh
Why start new ventures, and continue running them ... just be happy with a few sites and stop ...

As for "reselling hosting" , please tell us which company I resell .... very curious on that ....
Are you still in hosting ... I miss the idiotic video of you fumbling with a phone pda .... that made me laugh ....

So we will hold our breath for a BIGannouncement from sticky ... Meanwhile, lets support those who support content theft :thumbsup


PS: no more latin on my site, tough I kinda liked it ...
2ndPS: but that is MY site , not a white label shit like you.

the tribe has spoken

He is not naive, he is a plain idiot ...

Just go into the newsgroups, and all the content of adultrental is there ( alt.binaries.dvd.erotica )

Im just laughing at you, as are everyone that knows what Im in the process of launching. lol

they should be publicly executed.

Its all there huh? And you know it was ripped from there huh?

so you would have no problem seeing cp advertisers or ibill or guba advertising here ? all we have to do is not promote them. ?.

i think part of being an industry leader is leading by example..:2 cents: especially when the site in question is advertising directly next to stolen rips of your own dvd's

i would think that this sends a message to others that its ok to advertise next to stolen copies of playboy dvd's as they dont seem to have a problem with it..

Read the thread, futuristic moron ...

Who cares where it comes from ... the point is that it IS on torrent sites SUPPORTED by advertising from major programs...

YOU introduced first that members site were faulty not protecting their content, then YOU brought in that YOUR ( lol ....) content couldn't be ripped ...

YOU really are stupid and full of air .. the BIG thing will be when you fart and fly away, only leaving a foul smell behind :2 cents:

BTW, in that only group, there is a bit over 12 MILLION headings .....

Lars has a Top 100 site IN THE WORLD!

We are lucky to have him on the board.

Adult rentals use Windows Media digital rights management, and it have been proven a few times that it can be ripped. Right now, the way most rips from streaming cpntent are done are by using a addon on your Mediaplayer that exports the played content to a MotionJpeg archive. Its flawed, but people will still use it. Its still better quality than some of the Telescreener and other screener people share today

Again another moron saying its already ripped so whats the point. So people that shoot their own custom content for their sites, and dont use dvd rips should just hand over their content ahead of time to newsgroups and torrent sites? Why do you keep coming back to its already ripped, or its already available? Go rip a movie off of adult rental and show us how you did it, go rip a show off the fox vod setup and show us how you did it. Content CAN and IS protected, its just not being used in adult enough yet. If a company comes out with a proprietary flash video delivery system that is done differently for each site enough that they would have to jump through hoops to rip each site they wouldnt bother.

Typical of some people on this board. It will fail so why bother :1orglaugh

Well then, go rip one and show us how you do it. Good luck with that.

:1orglaugh

I agree with you on the rest of this post, but arent you a reseller of Iweb?

Just the board? Why not the face of the Earth?

You think I will pay to prove you something ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Want me to post pictures also, while at it ...

Do it yourself .....:

http://s1.quicksharing.com/v/1184251...se4WM.rar.html

by advertising on sites that give away stolen dvd's and child porn , infact the same dvd's the company in your sig produces.. gee one can only wonder how lol

so any site that gets in the top 100 of the internet we should feel lucky a person who works for them comes on gfy ? :error

all depends on what you consider lucky i suppose :1orglaugh

That would be breaking the law. But you can google the answer