100 ungraceful exits

shows you DON'T run a PAYSITE .... :1orglaugh

In fact, you run NOTHING.....

Geez. The only "IT" either of you got was to blame the rape victim for being raped. Congrats. I bet you guys also congratulate people for getting high post counts as well, right?

Let's start at the top. NOBODY in their right mind would assume for a second that AFF dropping their ads would "solve it". Far from it. But last time I looked, AFF was the largest single affiliate system in the adult world, and as such, their moves have a great impact on the industry. Like it or not, they are the leaders, and where they are leading us all so far is down the fucking toilet.

AFF dropping torrent sites wouldn't get rid of torrent sites. NO SHIT! But if AFF says no, and other programs join the INDUSTRY LEADERS in saying no, it makes it harder for every fool with a $59 server in the netherlands to run a torrent site for profit.

Repeat after me "There are no 100% solutions... but 50% of a solution is better than sticking our heads in the sand".

Stickyfingers, you talk about "if the door falls off my house I should just watch people walk in and take shit". You are missing the point. People are forcibly ripping the door of it's hinges and stealing shit. This isn't "you left the door open", this is "home invasion". People are buying memberships to sites, ripping the content, cancelling their memberships, and spewing the entire site all over the net. People aren't picking up dropped change on the street, they are turning the porn industry upside down and shaking it until the money comes out.

Like it or not, Lars and his ilk provide the currency that makes this all go. Just like fences buying stolen shit for pennies on the dollar, Lars is buying traffic from these sites with clear understanding that the material on the site is there without permission. They don't care where the traffic comes from, as long as it comes - and the people selling it don't care because their overhead is just this side of NIL.

AFF has gone from a great affiliate program that always paid into the poster child for how to how far companies will go to fuck their friends and affiliates for a few dollars. Why anyone would tolerate it is beyond me.

Lol good for you. You keep thinking what you want, and Ill keep knowing what I know. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You are naive....

Oh so then you agree the underlying problem is with the content being given away right? Or are you just confused, and still wanting to blame it on aff?

Please stop giving him ideas :winkwink::1orglaugh

Sticky you apparently don't read very closely.

The problem isn't content being given away. Since the fucking start of the internet, we have had newsgroups and similar arrangements that gave content away. The we had Fusker... even now, we have things like Guba that stand on the very knife edge of legal... and you saw how they got run out of town.

Many of the torrent search engines / torrent lists / torrent finders would disappear without advertising. These aren't people running sites because they love to share content or files, but because they have found a profit motivation.

Steal the content, host cheap, sell the surfers to Lars, make cash.

remove "sell the surfers to lars" and suddently the business doesn't make sense anymore and many of them go away.

So yeah, like it or not, I blame AFF (and a very few other companies) for being greedy fuckers willing to take traffic from anyone, to the detriment of the porn business overall.

secret decoder ring translation: I can't argue your points because you are correct, so I will wave my hand and say "shoo fly" because that's all I got.

Why do any of you even bother replying to sticky fingers ?


The guy knows it all, you are wasting your breath, and for every 1 post you make he makes 10 back.

He has proven in the past with his success that he has "substance" for his opinions (what success, what did this guy ever do ?) And surely the big idea he is working on will be ground breaking.

Let me lay some odds for anyone who wants to bet:

10:1 the "project" never launches
50:1 if it does launch it is dead in 6 months.
100:1 it is dead with in 12 months

even money he will reply to me 2 times from this thread.
2:1 he will reply 3 times because of this thread.
5:1 he will reply 4 times because of this thread.
10:1 he will reply 5+ times because of this thread.

Seriously, besides getting bumps out of this thread, there is no point replying to the guy. If you ignore him he will at most repeat himself 3 or 4 times and go away. If you reply he will be in for 20+ posts.

I can't wait to see the big idea i am so excited, like a school girl on prom night.

Sticky doesn't even know what are newsgroups .. He is going to google it now ...He doesn;t know that people subscribe to premium newsservers ( so they get all headers and longuer retention ) .

Now, you can download the following:

http://www.webdejob.com/gfy/ss2f2.jpg

41 rar files and quite a few par files to make sure it is complete ... along with the front & back covers ...

On my connection, it would be downloaded and playing within 25 minutes .... A full movie...
On alt.binaries.dvd.erotica, I would say you have about 100 full movies ready for d/l ... then they end up on torrent or vice/versa ...

But Shittyfingerz can't see that, he is working on something BIG :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Raw Alex, I think you missed the mark with this thread. I think you miss the overall impact of having Lars/AFF post regularly. Would zango or other issues have had the same impact if Lars/AFF were mute on the topic?

To quote Confucius, "Silence is the true friend that never betrays"

I'm all for people explaining themselves and letting people judge based on those explanations. Whether I agree or disagree with Lars/AFF...I want them to continue to communicate their stance as much as they can and let webmasters judge.

Ive been online since the beginning. I know and have used newsgroups all the time. Jesus fucking Christ you are stupid. You think you are some special sleuth cause you've used newsgroups? Jesus Christ... You get the moron of the week award. Again if they got ripped from dvds what does that have to do with this fucking discussion? See that would be NON exclusive content. What we are discussing is exclusive content. Try to keep up moron.

Dont breath in my fucking direction you stupid cunt. Post your little fucking rumor you heard about me piss ant cock sucker. :321GFY

My project is already launched and producing revenue, its just not public yet. Dumbass. :321GFY

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Are you GOD ???? What is that beginning, what year ....

The discussion was about programs such as AFF supporting sites offering " pirated " content and benifiting from it ... You didn't understand that, genius ?

No, that is what YOU are discussing, what YOU have introduced in this thread ( and getting it off topic as usual ) ... The discussion is AFF supporting sites offering pirated content.

With you ... I look in my back view mirror and can barely see you .... :321GFY

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I have a few sites and projects like that... I keep them top secret, don't even allow google to spider them ... nobody knows about them ... and I make a KILLING !!!!! :1orglaugh

But, let's talk about your glorious PAST accomplishments .... :1orglaugh

Amazing people dont get the link between pirated content, and securing your content.... :uhoh Rather than stop the problem, lets blame lars. Its his fault people are stealing content right? :1orglaugh DirectCumFiesta you are a moron. Always have been, always will be. Gee and how would you know wtf my project is to even search google for it? moron...

idiot ... and you reproduced .... shamefull.

so ????

Well, you are down to name calling, which is a good indication that your arguments are weak.

You can secure stuff all you want. it doesn't help. People rob banks every day. Casinos get jacked... build a big wall, and people dig a hole and go under it, or go around it, or find some way over the top of it.

Blu-ray already got hacked at least a bit. All the security in the world won't stop it.

So, YES, it is Lars' fault that people are able to more easily find stolen content. It is his fault that there are more and more torrent search sites every day coated over with AFF ads. Like it or not, Lars provides the financial lube that makes all this work. The sponsors stop paying, and suddenly there would be a much shorter list of torrent sites out there.

Can you address that without going off on a DRM tantrum?

Well first off you are talking about widely distributed media such as blue ray. And name calling? Ive been sitting here getting personally attacked the whole thread, and you say Im name calling? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Again make someone else out to be the bad guy.

Sticky, congrats - you have made my personal ignore list. You join such quality posters as Jim the Fiend, web4x, Oracle Porn and Jamescrenshaw You have no interest in discussion, so why bother.

*poof*, you are gone.

Gotta add, when I refreshed the thread after the ignore, it looked so much better. Now,can we continue to discuss AFF?

Great continue on with your whining and crying instead of making money. Cheers. :thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

they should leave the building...

That's the bottom line. You think this can happen and I don't. I don't believe the industry will ever get together to try to stop something if some of them are profiting from it. It didn't happen for Zango. Most sponsors are still one small step removed from zango traffic at most.

What makes you think they will unite against torrents? How many sponsors have you seen in the torrent threads saying how bad it is, that they would never do it and we should all get together? **crickets**

Has it ever happened before? Not to my knowledge but I'm far from an industry history expert.

I'm not talking about acacia or 2257 or .xxx ...well maybe I am as I seem to remember disagreements there based on who will profit depending on the outcome...

What about can spam? Was that the result of Industry leaders being concerned that porn email spam was ruining the rep of the adult industry and getting together to stop it?

I thought it was about ISPs and Businesses pressuring the government into acting and most Adult sponsors reacting with "Sorry guys I know it sucks but we can't take your mail traffic anymore as we don't want to get busted"

Even if every adult sponsor dropped Torrents, mainstream ones would no doubt be quite happy to pick up the slack so I don't see even that impossibility as anywhere near a 50% solution at all unfortunately.

Look Aff is profiting off of stole content. They come on hear and smear it in our faces because they can. You wanna support these fucks then go ahead. These Torrent sites are KILLING sales for everyone. If there was no way for these sites to make a profit from advertising they would not be stealing the content.

Wtf is someone going to buy a membership when they can get it for free But remember you a small time player and your fucking your self in the long run. Because you keep defending this company who has gone to shit. Sure shit is green on that side of the pasture now but things change

Obviously you are not a affiliate or a content producer cause if you were you would know how stuff like this dilutes the value of the content. Affiliates and program owners are sick of this shit so if you supporting them then you are in sense supporting them fucking us.

Now with that being said the lines have been drawn people are fed up and shits gonna hit the fan....

Hmm and what big program owners have posted in this thread bitching about torrents? Not a content producer? k...

Yes why is someone going to buy a membership if they can get it for free? Funny there are thousands of wares sites, there is rapidshare, p2p, yet you are super concerned about torrents cause there are somee aff ads on there. Yup so if torrents disappeared then I guess content theft would stop huh? Jesus this is pretty simple. You guys are worried about how to stop it after the fact. Stop the spread. Figure out a way to not let it get ripped. Thats how you will stop it. That and that only. Torrents die? People go back to p2p, or newsgroups. Torrents are used for legitimate sharing, and are a huge resource that adult is ignoring.

Same reason he votes for George Bush :1orglaugh

he's soooooooo much smarter than us ;)

Can you get any thicker? :disgust

Im not thick at all. I see it quite clearly. Its the same shit that was talked about for mgps and tgps etc etc. The fact is if the surfer cannot get the content for free he is more likely to pay for it. Would you agree?

What does this have to do with Gwb? And so are you saying you are against torrents? And against aff? Is that why you are posting?

Aren't you the guy who showed up at the domain auction to buy a one word premium domain with 500.00 in his pocket?

*Thick doesn't even begin to describe it. Someone who's merely thick generally can recognize their thickness. Someone who's completely dense thinks he's brilliant and all the rest of us are idiots.

I'm saying I'm not at all surprised that someone who proudly votes Republitard also proudly defends the current AFF business model.

No I actually was going to go up to about 8k. The domain was marked as 0-5000.00 as reserve. They marked the sheet wrong. So if no one else bid or was interested I guess I should of been able to get it for 500.00 easy huh?

I dont even really promote them. Does not even matter if they are in this conversation. It comes down to content that programs let people essentially own for a 30.00 membership fee. Dig how much money have you spent on your content? More than 30.00 I would guess? Well you just gave someone a key to take it all and do as they please with it for 30.00. Lets look at www.Vongo.com They have a delivery system, player, and security measures for their content. They can stop you from watching a movie after the time limit is up. Nationally advertised company right on the ole boob tube. So now do they have their own product in mind? Yes they have it protected, yet it is still simple and easy for someone to download it to their pc, view it on their tv, and use it on their mobile tech products. So should we look at what they are doing and learn, or instead beat up on aff, or even someone like me cause I wont jump on the bash bandwagon? Innovate...

Man you just dont get it do. Are you really that fucking stupid or are you building up bro points. I been layin back on you cause we run in the same circles and know the same people out of respect to them but fuck it.

I dont care if its rapidshare, p2p torrents or anything else. If you taking other peoples shit sharing it any were its bad enough. Then to have a multi million
company profiting of of stolen shit and you wonder why the fuck we are bitching about it. Please give me a fucking break.

Yeah stickyfingerz tell the fine folks what you are doing to make that money. Come on man get a spine tell us why take the brunt force of for aff when you can have your own time. I fucking know what you are doing and and if continue to pull this bullshit in these post i will show everyone what shit you pulling. It might burn a few bridges for me and cost me a few bucks but fuck it i aint gonna sit here and read your bullshit post.

Also while you are at it contact me on icq 247-742-205 i wanan buy some content from stickyboxcontent for a special project i have in mind....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vongo

Someone sign up to vongo and then rip a movie please. Im sure one of you experts will be able to do it in seconds... lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vongo

Read more about it. So instead everyone will stick to the same old shit, letting people basically buy your content rather than rent it. But we'll hear more about what the surfer is conditioned to, and cant innovate cause it would be too hard, and it will just get broken anyways. Cheers guys :thumbsup

I don't know why any of you even waste your time giving Stinkyass a moment of your time. He's a fucking moron that has posted an average of 23 times a day for the past 2 years, he obviously has no life and lives on this board. Anyone that has a real fucking business to run does not have time to post 23 times a fucking day for 2 years straight. Then he spews how great repukes are and then supports unethical bullshit, nice family values you have Stinkyass. Do us all a favor and stop polluting the board with your stupid bullshit.

I send maybe 500 hits a month to alt.com other than that I do not promote them. I promote camazon cash for dating, and Iwantu. I have a white label with Iwantu actually and they are one of my fav sponsors.
In fact I was kind of peeved at them for awhile cause Sagi said I didnt send enough traffic to do me a white label for them. Ive talked to lars maybe 3 times and most of them were only cause we were standing right beside each other. This has nothing to do with loyalty to aff or lars or whatever. Not sure what you are trying to get at to be honest, but Im getting use to things being insinuated about me lately.. Only have 1 license left for each semi exclusive girl, so just let me know. We are shooting either all exclusive for other sites atm, or only shooting for ourselves.

Well these are not torrent sites...but here are tens of thousands of links to plenty of free porn for the surfer and offer the Webmaster the opportunity to track down stolen content if they care to spend the time. There are more than 17,000 links to rapidleecher which in turn leads to rapidshare.

http://www.1stwr.com/pmembers-1/porn...deos/index.htm

You know what. First off you've never posted a thread worth reading.

http://www.gfy.com/search.php?searchid=1469078

Secondly Adult used to lead the internet, now we follow. Its sad. Did you look at Vongo.com? They are doing exactly what I am saying to do for adult. But carry on with the whining and crying.

Who owns this then?

http://www.dvdbox.com/index.php?adv_...4&category_id=

Dvdbox is advertised on there? Will we see everyone jump on dvdbox and call for their hanging? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Damn, what were you waiting for.

I ignored " heart burn and headache " aka sticking idiot a few days ago.

Like i said it is like arguing with the wall but the wall replies back 100 times.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Hey will do you support Ibill? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.realitywebcams.com/join.htm

Thats your site bubba. So you must support them. Nice site. :uhoh

For those following along at home, the thread has gone into a Sticky bashing thread, while ignoring the fact that there are ways out there being used in mainstream effectively RIGHT NOW that are working to protect content rights. But hey lets talk about a domain name Sticky wanted to buy in January. Jesus Cripes lol :1orglaugh

No sticky this is turned into a idiot bashing thread and the heat is about to get turned up :1orglaugh

nice url by the way :1orglaugh

Agreed, but that isn't what this thread is about. AFF have done NOTHING good for the industry. They hadn't before Zango/torrents and they sure as hell aren't now.

I have it on good authority that the sky is about to fall and we are all going to die... I just don't know exactly when but I would like everyone to know that we will not rest until we can pinpoint the time and place...