Hillary wants retreat in 90 days
 

This woman is insane, she wants our troops to leave Iraq in 90 days!?
Does she really think Iraq and the middle east will be magically fixed because we leave?! Im glad she has no power in our country.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/hillcast/?sc=8

Partisan politics aside, leaving Iraq would be disastrous for the future of the United States. These extremists will STILL come for us and expand their power bases in the middle east. Even if Israel is destroyed they wont stop there.

I think they should leave tomorrow. Whether they stay there 1 more day, 90 more days, or 5 more years, it wont make a difference to Iraq and their government. It will only make a difference to the pockets of U.S. tax payers.

I don't think they should stay...I don't think they are making things better, just getting killed:(

Hello? 9/11? Hello? You would rather have semi-sporadic terrorist acts happening just to save a few bucks? Insane I tell you insane.

Retreat? The war has already been won. No WMD. Saddam gone. What other reasons did we go in for?

The violence against our toops goes on only because we are there.

Never say that in public, it sounds so foolish.

"GOING" to Iraq was disastrous for the future of the United States. Now all we can do is leave, because the longer we stay there, the more U.S. troops will die. And IMO, giving the Iraqi people "freedom" is not worth the lives of 3000+ U.S. soldiers.

What?! Haha what dream world are you living in? Islamic extremists declared war on us in 1998 and our former President ignored them until we couldnt ignore them anymore on 9/11. You people really think this shit would stop if we leave?

This ISNT ABOUT THE IRAQI people its about the United States and its assertion of power in the world. If we leave we will be WEAK and every single enemy that we have(and its alot and has been for many years even before Bush was even born) will eventually come for us.

More U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq than died on 9/11. Dont be fooled by the lies. The U.S. is a much more dangerous place now, than it was before 9/11. Iraq is also a much more dangerous place now.

this is a fucked up philosophy

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The type of terrorists in Iraq are not the same type that hit us on 9/11.

What does 9/11 have to do with Iraq? I know you've been asked this several times, but have never given a decent answer.

I see you've been completely brainwashed by Bush and the media. At this point, it is probably better you just believe what you like.

"The world is a safe place thanks to Bush and hopefully our soldiers will stay in Iraq another 10 years to ensure none of our other enemies attack us."

Okay, I must go outside now, it is raining gum drops and chocolate muffins.

Tell that to the people who worked in the World Trade Center on 9/10/2001
Its ALWAYS been dangerous. The US is not as dangerous NOW as it was before 9/11 there hasnt been another attack. You are the one fooled by the lies. 3000+ blessed soldiers lives pales in comparison to the mass murder these terrorists are committing everyday and want to commit here.

I love how the Republican thought process is that every terrorist in the world has rushed into Iraq to fight us there, instead of here in the US.

These people are so fucking stupid.

STFU jungle monkey you and Costa Rica are irrelevant in this conversation. Just stay in your little beef deprived banana eating mosquito infested bubble.

Prove it motherfucker, has there been another attack IN THE USA? No. Do you even have a fucking clue of whom you have to thank for that? All those soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq and around the world fighting this battle for your pussy ass.

Yes I have you lieing shit bucket. Many times. And yet again.

Iraq invades Kuwait in 1990, the UN authorizes the USA and its coalition to eject Iraq from Kuwait. We set bases up in Saudi Arabia to start military action against Iraq, this pisses Bin Laden and other extreme muslims off who then declare that the United States and its allies must leave the "holy lands". Because of our presence there and our support of Israel Bin Laden and other extremists declared war on the United States and they attacked us in 1993, 1995 and 2001(9/11).

Let's look at the type of terrorists we are killing in Iraq vs. the guys who actually hit us on 9/11.

The terrorists in Iraq are basically desert bums. They come in from the mountains and blend into the chaos of Iraq. They are opportunistic, and take what they can get. Given who they are, they are incapable of getting passports and traveling to the US.

The 9/11 terrorists on the other hand were seemingly regular people with regular lives in stable middle eastern countries. They had jobs, families and a future. That is what allowed them to get into the US. We are not killing these types in Iraq.

You are so tough behind your keyboard. Ignorant, coward, redneck.:1orglaugh :321GFY

Resorted to ad hominem attacks and you're debating? Stick to watching Fox News IMO...

It has become apparent to me that this Administration has chosen not to engage our military power to put a somewhat rapid end to the bullshit that has been allowed to take place in Iraq and in addition the polls show that the majority of the American people do not support the Administrations prosecution of this conflict...I favor an immediate phased withdrawal and let Iraq suffer with the consequences.

If the CONUS is ever struck again...in any significant way...I think next time around we will not pussyfoot around as we have done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But who knows...we pussyfooted around in Korea and Vietnam in a big way...Lebbanon and Somalia in a smaller way...so we seem slow on the uptake.

I do hope and expect that we will rebuild our military ASAP and increase the end strength back to the more than two million active duty personnel that it was before Congress began the cuts during President Bush Sr's term in office.

Continue on with the good fight Splum.

The United States had a full all out ground offensive in Vietnam, over 3.5 million US troops served in SE Asia during that war... I wouldn't call that "pussyfooting". Also, we had over 500,000 troops on the ground, (3.5 million switching in and out). It was a full blown war basically, and the US got beat... Iraq appears to be heading down that same road.

wow...this thread really backfired on you. looks like the majority want us out.

Iraq isnt even CLOSE to Vietnam what are you talking about? You just said the numbers yourself. We havent sustained the casualties we did in Vietnam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

Oh yeah ten porn pushers really represents average Americans dumb ass.

Splum... god bless you and god bless America....
but first look at this...

youtube.com/watch?v=m9A_vxIOB-I

US troops must leave Iraq, Bush never care about terrorism or Iraqi people, he only "think" on the price of the gas... oh.. and his whisky bottle..

Well these people represent the average Americans.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2007...pTimetable.htm

Only 33% want us to stay till the end.

I didn't say Iraq is the same as Vietnam; I said it was heading down the same road. Vietnam's highest casualty numbers came at the end of the war after failed troop surges in 67-69.

55% want us to withdraw within a year, last time I checked thats 365 days not 90.

President Eisenhower sent the first troops to Vietnam and from that time...until Nixon finally ordered that some of the proper targets were no longer safe from attack...the military fought with one hand behind its back.

Those that supplied the NVA and the Port of Haiphong were not allowed to become targets and the cities of North Vietnam were not allowed to become targets. Finally Nixon ordered 24/7 bombing of the cities and harbor and in eleven days it brought the North to the peace table and facilliated our withdrawal of our forces. Two years after our forces withdrew the South was overrun. The Southern forces got beat not US forces.

The Vietnam conflict would have been over in one day with the use of Tactical Nukes. It would have been over in 30 days with the use of sustained bombing on the proper targets (as was proven by 11 days of sustained bombing on some of the proper targets). It would have been over in 90 days with a ground invasion of the North.

Why do you think the US is less dangerous now? There were 8 years between the 1993 WTC attack and 2001. Does that mean Clinton did a good job of protecting the homeland? Bush is only at 5 1/2 years.

BTW...the Iraq conflict was won in the first 24 days (I had predicted that it would take 10 days) when the Iraq Army was defeated and the government removed.

What has taken place since and now...is not a war...but is a poorly run effort at nation building.

do you think iraq and the middle east will be magically fixed if we occupy their country for another 10-20-30-40-50 years... :1orglaugh

more of our soldiers die for a war started to fatten the wallets of our politicians

sure it's a war

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/war

pretty much all those definitions fit.

Well, maybe if you were a general you could've won the war in 30 days like you say, but don't you think that the military would have bombed the proper targets to begin with instead of mindlessly bombing like you're saying... I mean, they killed over 2 million civilians in the war by mindlessly bombing, yet you are saying they could've WON in 30 days by bombing "proper targets". (Probably with less civilian casualities)

Anyway, I still don't believe it is "pussyfooting" when 3.5 million troops serve in a war, although your definition and mine may vary. I see your "pussyfooting" as horrible leadership (10 year war could've been 30 days?).

And, The Cold War could've been over in 1 day if we used "tactical nukes".

Pigshit.

Clinton was the reason 9/11 happened on American soil at all. He could have had Bin Laden years ago, keep in mind Al Qaeda had been continually attacking our overseas interests ALL through the Clinton years.

It wont be "fixed" properly unless we wipe out or reform that entire region, we certainly cant do it while a portion of our own country wants to run from the fight. Our politicians will make money no matter whats going on in the world they would find ways to take our money what the hell does this have to do with anything?