Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 11944979)

To the extent that we are probably spending what, almost a half a billion a day, I wouldn't mind keeping that money in our economy instead of further bankrupting our country so that there is nothing left but good stories for our children about how this used to be a great nation. Brad

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 11943012)

Please enlighten us about what polices Bush could have put in place in NINE MONTHS? Clinton had EIGHT YEARS to enact polices to stop 9/11, that is if Clinton really believed Bin Laden was a real threat. And if Clinton thought Bin Laden was a huge threat, why didn?t he do something in his EIGHT YEARS get a police to protect the US from attacks? So really what kind of ?warnings? did Clinton really give?

It is just ignorant to blame Bush for 9/11.

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 11945186)

What is amusing about reading the likes of Splum defending his corner, is his apparent belief that a) we could afford to turn a region covering some of our largest oil supplies into a parking lot and b) anti-American sentiment and activity would be wiped out if we did.

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 11945186)

He further toes the party line by conveniently ignoring the reality that the majority of terrorist funding comes from within Saudi Arabia and reaches organisations in countries as distant as Malaysia. GW's "War on Terrorism" isn't only being fought on a very selective basis, but where it is being fought, the casualties on both sides have escalated. It takes a special kind of logic to interpret that reality as any kind of victory.

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 11945186)

Which illustrates how distorted our views have become as to what - traditionally at least - our two parties stand for. Imperialism has in fact been pursued by both, pretty consistently since the 1920's and in no practical sense have the Democrats, overall, been any less gung ho than the Republicans. That is what has gained us so many friends around the world. Or not, according to your perception...

What is amusing about reading the likes of Splum defending his corner, is his apparent belief that a) we could afford to turn a region covering some of our largest oil supplies into a parking lot and b) anti-American sentiment and activity would be wiped out if we did. Those are both patently ludicrous visions and yet without them, nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever.

He further toes the party line by conveniently ignoring the reality that the majority of terrorist funding comes from within Saudi Arabia and reaches organisations in countries as distant as Malaysia. GW's "War on Terrorism" isn't only being fought on a very selective basis, but where it is being fought, the casualties on both sides have escalated. It takes a special kind of logic to interpret that reality as any kind of victory.

Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 11945243)

blah blah

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11945271)

But it's not his belief, it's what someone told him to believe. The shit he spews is straight from the talking points, no deviation. And the shit that comes from the talking points isn't anything these people really believe, it's just spin. They know they fucked up, they know Iraq is a disaster, but they need to spin it behind some cheerleading nationalism. Seriously, the Republicans don't even believe the shit he is spewing, they just have to say they do to not look like the complete fuckups and crooks they are.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11945272)

Whats your IM info I got something I want to show you about your sites.

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 11945347)

Splum: Serious question
How many other countries have you lived in? I don't know your background, just want to know before I say anything stupid.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11941651)

You are extremely simple minded, how the fuck do you survive in this business? We arent sacrificing a lot of our soldiers lives, do you realize how many "islamic terrorists" we have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq? And dont even say we are creating "more" terrorists because they have been terrorists against Christian nations for thousands of years. If you studied history instead of surviving college in a drug induced haze you would know these things.

The British pacified the middle east for many years after the fall of the Ottoman empire. There is no reason to believe we cant do the same.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11945358)

I have never "lived" in any other countries, I spent time in the Army(mostly Kuwait), my mother is from Austria(stayed there with her for a month) and I have family I have visited in Utrecht Netherlands.

Why would I want to "live" anywhere else than the greatest country on earth?

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11945285)

Actually I am not even Republican idiot. I am pro-choice, that certainly isnt with the "party" line of Republicans lol. You just cant face the fact that maybe there are LOTS of people in the United States that dont think like you and your lackies?

Originally Posted by sacX (Post 11945378)

to learn about the world? I'm not saying leave the US forever, but you can get great perspectives about your own country from looking from afar, and also to learn about other countries views.

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11945380)

Doesn't look like they showed up on that Tuesday in November.

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11945403)

Which November is that, the one that Bush won or the other one that Bush won, or could it be that November that Bushs dad won, or maybe it was the two Novembers that Reagan won, or maybe it was all the Novembers for the past 13 years that Republicans won congress. You mean those Novembers?

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11945400)

I have traveled outside of the USA many times as I said above. Simple fact is I dont give a fuck about any other country but my own. My country is just fine without the world telling me what my country is. If we are evil so be it, if we are imperialists(and I believe we are) so be it, if we are the evil empire so be it.

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 11945458)

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11945467)

Jon Murtha?

Jon Murtha?

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 11945492)

Damn this thread is still rolling...