WTF? John Kerry's Boat Crew Saying Something Totally Different.
 

Has anyone seen this yet? A friend just sent me this link.

http://swiftvets.com/

Does it matter really?

I saw that site a few weeks ago. Yet another reason I won't be voting for him :)

So who were the crew mates he was parading on stage at the convention that were speaking so highly of him

jealous and bitter soldiers who are pissed because he started VETS AGAINST THE WAR???

these guys are bitter old drunks, probably just like their fathers were.

scallywags

Let the hardcore trashing begin. :1orglaugh

that's the commerical that everyone has been talking about.. none of those guys served with Kerry .. the add is basicly a lie paid for by the republicians

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ans/index.html

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing there were even MORE people on board that ship than those on stage with him AND the ones on that website. :thumbsup

Those men from the http://swiftvets.com/ site didn't actually serve on the same boat as Kerry that is why the Republicans are distancing themselves from them after initially going haha so don't always believe what you believe on the internet...

more republican propaganda

the real guys that did serve with Kerry.. shows you how low the republicains will stoop to try to win..

KRL,

there was a whole CNN article on that ad, and how it is falsified. Even Republican Sen. McCain criticized the ad. None of those veterans actually served on his boat.. a few said they were on neighboring boats, etc.

Check GFY, it was posted here.

I'm thinking, although potentially damaging, that a lot of officers in the military are viewed as jackasses by the members of their unit...

Some military bosses have to push their troops and make hard decisions that others don't like...




Can anyone honestly think Bush had a more solid military background?

Woops, we can't really look into that though now can we, as most of his records 'accidentally' got destroyed

I wonder what Bush's peers and troops would say about him today...oh that's right he didn't have any troops under him as he was doing the pseudo military, party-flyboy guard thing....I'm guessing the other FRAT-bros thought he was just swell ;)


apples and oranges...


My gutt tells me that neither of these guys are 100% honest about anything, hell they're POLITICIANS now...

Btw, all the guys saying "he dishonored his country" .. "he betrayed his country" - they are saying that in regards to him coming home and protesting against the war..

its funny how they put in how he lied about his purple hearts, and then right after say how he disgraced his country - based on two unrelated events.. it gives the false picture.

So its just more fucking Republican bullshit then. I figured something wasn't right with that site.

Can't wait to clean house in November.

:321GFY


http://www.JohnKerry.com

:glugglug

this is so very simple.

youre a soldier, you go through the same shit kerry does. he gets a star and a purple heart. begins antiwar activism once returning home with those medals of honor.

these soldiers are whiny little jealous bitches.

imagine how jealous they are, he gets what they want to achieve, and then starts anti-war mess?

that fact alone must have gotten under their skin for decades now.

simple.
its also just more propaganda, i dislike both sides, but what can ya do?

This is nothing new they have been saying this for years, 60 minutes has done 2 segments on it.

:)

you do realize what a swift boat is don't you? It's not a battleship that can hold 3,000 troops :1orglaugh refer the the movie "Apocalypse Now"

and keep in mind that being on a Swift boat was one of the most dangerous jobs to have during Vietnam and Kerry volunteered for it.. unlike George Bush who made the lowest possible score in order to get into the Air National guard, and somehow managed to get bumped in front of guys who had better scores.

George Bush during flight training >> :arcadefre

No, not really...

you cant explain anything about the real world to peaches

she thinks Kerry was driving the titanic in *swiftly* to pick up soldiers.

:1orglaugh

ive never been to war or been on a swift boat, but i am gonna take a guess.

http://66.149.101.75:3390/images/Vie.../SwiftBoat.jpg

this a swift boat right

http://www.intertrader.net/pc-ptf/pcfclose.jpg

most people on this board have boats bigger than these things

lol well ok, but for those that don't know what one is.. here is a picture..

link hotten

http://brownwater-navy.com/vietnam/photos2/PCFops1.jpg

If it were spread all over the boards you raped and killed children you wouldnt be upset? That's what this fucker did in front of congress, accused all soldiers of killing and raping children when in reality he was the war criminal.

:)

i thought john kerry admitted to being part of war crimes like decades ago?

have you not seen the video?

soldiers have in fact raped and killed children in all major wars, need links to Okinawa rapes? so i doubt he was lying then or now.

*warming my hands on the flames of the flag*

:thumbsup

bad title of this thread - know facts before you get your strings pulled by the puppetmaster - ONE, count em, ONE of those vets actually was on Kerry's boat.

i'm open to hearing bad things about Kerry's time in Nam but from here it looks like his biggest crime was to make himself look more heroic than he was - uh....... the guy was on a river boat in the Mei Kong Delta - he was IN country, he was IN combat, what he was not was IN the United States safe as a kitten like the dumb drunk fratboy Bush.

Fletch has it pegged right I think - bunch of bitter old Republican vets who got pissed that Kerry came home and fought against the war.

again at it's worst you have a guy who served his country put his life on the line, did his patriotic duty fighting a war and then fighting against a war when he got home, gilded the lily of his wartime experience with a political future in his plans.

they call it a CHARACTER FLAW. if true it is. but what the fuck do you call it when you are such a pussy you get your old man to jump the line and hide you away in the Texas National Guard to avoid being drafted and serving your country? what do you call having your fucking drivers license suspended for endangering the lives of others driving drunk and high? what do you call it when you are the President of the United States and aren't ashamed to tell people God talks to you and you take your orders from him?

when it comes to character flaws there is a clear winner.

It's funny that someone in this business actually would be stupid enough to vote for Bush.
He would shit down your neck if he got the chance and tell you porn is bad and invade your backyard.

So many of you would be back at running jokes sites and flipping burgers.

Better not say that out loud, theking might come after you :winkwink:

Porn is probably already doomed. All these guys bragging about their Hummers are going to be the equivalent of the dot bomb guys that were making 100 grand and playing foosball all day and then had to go back to living with their parents.


Kerry brought this on by making himself out to be George Patten and calling these guys his band of brotehrs.

Correct.

Amazes me how anybody can even compare these two men. Honor, valor, and bravery only belong to one of them.

So you're saying the men on the website (one, from what other posters have said) and the men on stage supporting Kerry comprised the entire crew of the swift boat? Interesting. :winkwink:

just another example why you cant believe everything you see on tv.

and the one person in the swiftboat group who served with him has recanted his affadavit to this group.

One thing I saw on that site that I imagine is true and correct is that Kerry was actually in Vietnam for 4 months and he got out of his 1 year tour of duty through some manipulation of the fact he had gotten those medals.

Correct me if I'm wrong on that. I have to admit the impression you get from listening to him is that he was there for a long time.

Generally, they let you go after getting wounded 3 times (= 3 purple hearts) if you requested it.

yeah i would stop considering myself lucky after 3 too.

:1orglaugh

That is about the stupidest shit I have ever read at GFY. I was in the navy. Our 8 boats were nicely in a row along the dock. I didn't even know the name of everyone on mine let alone the other 7.

That is like saying that person A lives in an apartment complex, so does person B. Therefore person A knows person B and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

A fucking apartment complex analogy? :1orglaugh Talk about some stupid shit. These were tiny boats that travelled, worked and fought intimately together in teams. You bet they knew each other, expecially the COs.

O'Neill didn't get there until two months after Kerry was out of the country. It's been proven to the satisfaction of any reasonable person that this group is totally full of shit. Time to move on the next lying slander for the conservatives.