Why are men such idiots when it comes to child support?
 

My brother in law who is well over $40,000 in arrears complains that he's supposed to be paying $350 a month in child support.

I hear men bitch when they have to pay a percentage of their income in child support. What do these idiots not understand?

If the child lived with you 100% of your income would be going to their support.
You're lucky to only be paying 15-30% you stupid fucking tards.

cuz they dont want to give thier money to some bitch to buy crack with and smoke with thier pimp.

And spare me the bullshit about women, we all know in most cases the women get custody..sure there are some dead beat moms out there but for the most part it's a bunch of cocksmoking dads who aren't taking care of their biz.

its pretty terrible not paying child support, not that there is any real excuses, but some could be the fact that certain men feel trapped, or that they do not really even think the kid is theirs.

there are tons of sluts out there just looking for the next sucker that they can mooch off of, if any female ever said she was pregnant by me i would automatically be asking for a paternity test.

I agree, but sometimes when the child does not live with you, you can see where your money goes when they visit. A lot of these women take the CS and spend it on themselves leaving the kids in dirty diapers and eating hot dogs and noodles in the same clothes they have had for 3 years.

I have a situation like this within my family.

This goes also to women like in my case I have custody of two boys, im lucky to see anything and when she does pay its less then $180.00 lol

I'm sure that's what they tell themselves as their kids go to school in tattered clothing coming home to daycare or nobody at all while the mom has to work 2 jobs to break even.

And if the woman is doing crack, then what kind of man allows his kids to continue to live with them. The kind of man who is much worse off that a judge must have picked the lesser of two evils

If those guys are actually worried the kid is not theirs, then bag the shit. Any fool having unprotected sex deserves 18 years of responsibility.

Child support and alimony are two separate issues.

I know Tom it happens both ways, but the majority of cases it's women with custody and bitches who call themselves men who can't / won't man up and pay for their kids.

What are you talking about.

Nothing in that quote approaches alimony.

if you didnt notice "bagging the shit" does not always work, i have had condoms break and a few close calls.

you do not deserve 18 years of responsibility if the kid is not yours. :upsidedow

like i said paternity test!

What women need to learn is to be VERY CHOOSY about who you get pregnant by!

Wanna fuck some loser you met in a bar without a condom to get pregnant -- chances are he'll bail on the child support. But if you actually wait until you're in a GOOD relationship and DISCUSS having children together BEFORE you MUTUALLY DECIDE to raise children together, chances are good that should the relationship fall apart, the man will do the honourable thing and pay support.

I'm no stupid bitch... and I have never gotten pregnant. Here's a hint to all the desperate sluts: If you don't like condoms, try birth control pills!

Then who's this man in y our family without any balls who doesn't make sure his kid has a better life or is so bad off that the judge realizes she's still the better choice?

I took it the wrong way, my bad.

Yep I dont think its acceptable. If a mom isa deadbeat, why dont you fight for custody ...

it all depends on the circumstances..

If your wife suddenly dumped you out of the blue and moved in with DONALD TRUMP, i dont think you would be happy about paying anything..

Child support should directly reflect custody. So if the father gets 10% of the time he should pay %10 of the costs of raising a child..

Child support should be cancelled if there is another male living witht he child ( i.e. new dad )

Any "real" father is more than happy to support their child regardless of cost

It's my cousin and it's a state to state battle. Fuck you for saying he has "NO BALLS" - you know shit about it. He can not afford to go running for custody in the other state. He pays, but it kills him to see his dauther when she comes and she is in old clothes and worn out sneakers. He commplains to his ex, and nothing happens. He brings it up in court - nothing can be done. The court doesn't want to hear it. Tehy consider it a debt - nothing more, nothing less.

She spent New Years here in Florida and she told him that she had, "never seen the ball drop before..." ... I guess Mommy is always out with her boyfriend (womever that is that week) on News Years Eve. It's a sad case, let me tell you.

Bitch will go to court looking like some sweet angel calling you every motherfucker in the book. Judge makes the choice to fuck you right along with bitch.

btw I dont have this problem.

You are wrong. Doesn't matter who the wife or husband lives with, the children are still the responsibility of both parties.

My nieces live with me, because I put a roof over their head, food on the table, clothes on their back and have done so for many years does that negate their father's responsibility?

NO.

I have a friend that is a woman.. she gave custody of her kids to her ex husband and will not pay child support.
Sad situation.. she is acting like a piece of shit.. so sad :-(

I call bullshit.

He can petition the court for joint custody or sole custody if he thinks his kid is being neglected.

Maybe he needs to get a 2nd job to pay for it. Maybe he should move to the other state and set up residence there...if I thought my children were being harmed in anyway shape or form nothing on this earth would stop me from being more involved, or getting custody.

I've paid my Child Support sicne day one.

I hate paying it though, and the reason is I was made to not have a choice. The state of California basically allowed my daughter to be kidnapped out to COlorado by her mom when we separated. I fought in Divorce court and custody for over two years.

The only thing I got was slight visitation and to pay $350.00 mo.

The courts decide with the mom's all the time. I even proved in court the whore took speed, yet the courts decided she oughtah have custody.

So in essence IMHO $350.00 is whore money.
I hardly ever get to see my daughter, calls are not returned and the visitation agreement is in shambles 10 years later, with my daughter calling another man "Daddy".


I must be a real fucken idiot to pay it.

I disagree with the percentage of the fathers income rule once it hits a certain figure.

There are fathers out there paying so much money that the kid's care is 100% covered and there is money left for the mother to burn. The excess money doesn't go into a savings account for the child either. It buys jewelry, purses and clothing for the mother.

There needs to be some sort of law that considers where child support funds are actually being spent. Child support is for the child. Alimony is for the mother.

The courts usually side with women in court, thats a fact in our society. The father has no rights in the first place. Those rights and responsibilities ya hear about are only conjecture, but far from what the real deal is in Custody battles and divorce.

The father has a right to Pay child support and thats it.If ya got a house be prepaired to loose.
Got a nice car, be prepaired to loose it.

Basically you are fucked in everyway possible when separating.

Actually? I don't care what you call. The state of Florida is handling it for the other state. The bitch was on publis assistance when she didn't need it. She ABANDONED him when the baby was 7 months old and didn't contact him until the baby was 7 years old. He hired PI's when he could afford it... tried contacting family members... even tried moving where she was last known to live. She didn't contact him until SHE NEEDED FUCKING MONEY BECAUSE SHE GOT DUMPED! You know how he was contacted? A Sheriff at his fucking door with a subpoena for court.

The state of Florida said VERBATUM: If you want custody or want to set up visitation, you MUST file in the other state because that is where the case actually originates from.

Don't act like you know everything man. You may know a lot (self proclaimed), but you DEFINITELY do not know about this situation.

And he DOES PAY - read back. I wrote it.

Unfortunately, domestic court is probably the worst system I've ever had the misfortune to work with....and much depends on whether the judge got laid the night before.

Having said that...I've seen custodies that are brilliantly worked out and so much is determined by the mother and father who really believe the child is not to blame for the breakdown of the marriage....so they keep their private quarrels away from the kids and everyone does their share.

On the other hand, I've seen humans act in ways that just make me shake my head....they should be ashamed of themselves...the mother who thinks she just has to date like a teenager to get another man...the father who doesn't stay involved....or fight when it's needed....the drug use, the blaming...it's nauseating to see so called adults act in this manner...

Not a fair system..but the divorces say an awful lot about the parents, too.

Who really speaks for the children? In too many cases, no one.

That's why I restrict myself to facials or shooting in the pooper when I'm with a slut.

I understand what you're going through..and I guarantee you I have more divorce experience than most people on this board.

Going on almost 30 years of bitter fights between my parents, and various family members. Hell my mom was married and divorced 6 times, her last divorce I filed the petitions for her because she couldn't afford an attorney to get it started.

Yeah the courts side on the moms a lot. And you say you proved she took speed...but divorce is an ugly thing man a lot of shit gets said, accusations made and the judge has to look at all that.

Not saying that this is your case, but I've had friends who watched their ex's do the drugs stayed with them for 5 years, and then when the ex got cleaned up and wanted a divorce all of a sudden the drugs become an issue they used against them in court.

The judges see a lot of manipulation during these times, not saying that is what you were doing, but that is in the back of their minds.

I pay for my son in Florida...always have, always will (well...until he turns 18 in 3 years). And, YES, my ex-wife used to spend a SHITLOAD on herself instead of on him. But at least I am doing my part and can live with myself. I even went through the "wondering if he is mine" bullshit.

Bottom line is if you're not paying you belong in jail. Make all the excuses you want but if you're ordered to pay and aren't you're a selfish, immature worthless piece of shit.

And I am such a nice guy....I have custody of my other son and I am not making my ex-wife pay. And, ironically, while I was married to her she had 2 kids from a previous and we never collected a dime in child support from their father...not cuz we didn't want to but because his whereabouts were unknown.

Ahhh...the money I have burned...I am definitely an idiot when it comes to child support!

What I am trying to say is...

You young guys out there trying to be "The Big Man Pimp" with playing the girls and being unfallable...

Ya better fucking think twice when actually fucking a chick, especially if ya might "Love her" because true colors come out in the bitches, YOU WILL LOOSE!

You will be fooled and blinded into thinking nothing will happen.
BULL FUCKING SHIT!

Ya can bypass my words but if I know anything I know this shit for a fact.

Women will do ANY FUCKING to make a buck off you after a releationship and Marriage is the ultimate instrument to take you for the ride of your life with her laughing to the bank taking everything you ever loved.

You dont understand. I have friends that have fought for custody. Unless the mom is shooting up speed and beating the kid up in court for all to see, they usually will not give the father sole custody.

Bingo and don't forget money to the mom to pay for her drug habits.
I seen this alot and have lived it.

My boyfriend of 8 years has a daughter with another woman. Back in the early days, he tried to get custody of her and was even able to prove that the mom spent all of her cash on cocaine. He had a job, the support of his family, and a plan to raise his daughter. But the judge decided that his daughter should live with her mom.

The mom moved in with another man and married him, making it so that my man didn't have to pay any child support. But you know what? Because of his integrity, he ensured that she got money every month to take care of his daughter, sent birthday and Christmas presents, and kicked in extra for back-to-school clothes and school field trips. All he asked was that his daughter come out and see him for a short while in the summer. How many times has she been out to see him in the past 16 years? 3!

And to top it all off, last time when he was on the telephone with his daughter, she complained that her mom had spent over $900 on a cocaine binge over the holiday season.

I completely agree that the courts favour women in custody battles FAR TOO OFTEN! I really hope that changes soon. I'm sure there are thousands of similar cases all over North America.

Document. Document. Document everything. If your cousins child shows up in old rag clothes, take pics. Go buy her a new outfit every single time! and save the receipts. If he has to file in the other state, then file in the other state.

Sucks to be him for sure, and I'm sure what I said is nothing new to you or him, but if thats how it is then thats how it's going to be.. try your best to work within the system. Simply do it and leave emotion out of it if possible.

I've never fathered a child, and yes I'm sure of that (for those who feel compelled to say 'that you know of' haha).

It's so funny to hear the opinions of those that have had it happen (or close to them) and those that are on the flip side of the coin.

I strongly disagree...but I will add that it depends on where you live.

I still remember the first child support check I got (10 years in arrears). It was after the IRS had finished garnishing my ex's paycheck for the money he owed them. Apparently it is much more important for the IRS to get paid before child support.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh I have some experience with them too...in the collective mind of the IRS, no one exists but the IRS so children are, by extension, secondary at best.

I understand more than you will ever know...LOL

I'm a product of family court...my family has been in and out of court from the very first day my parents started getting divorced in 1976 *my father won custody btw*, all through my adolesence. I saw the manipulation both my mother and father pulled...didn't stop there...my mother 11 years after the divorce went back to court to try to get custody of my younger brother when he was 13...my father got ripped off by his lawyer so I went to the SMU law library and filed every paper for him and he represented himself in court and won.

I've spent many days in family court with my mother going through her various divorces...like I said above even filed her petitions for her on her last one.

Spent time in family court trying to protect my nieces from both my sister and brother in law, the last time I was in court was the year before I moved out here, and within months of my moving out here they came to live with me...again.

so yeah I do understand, I know how flawed the system is. But I also know there are so many people who claim they are doing what it takes but are really only half assing it.