I have a friend who pay child support, and he is getting fucked badly in my opinion. Not only does he pay her a nice chunk of change ($2k ish/month if I remember correctly) he has to pay for MANY additional expenses. Kid wants to go on a trip, or kid needs this or that, daddy has to pay for it cause mommy is broke. And the kid is not even living well at all, they live in some average at best apartment. I'm 100% sure that the kid is not even getting half of that $2k. So kid gets $1k, and mommy gets to piss away $1k on herself at daddy's expense.

I don't think a court anywhere will order a non-custodial parent to pay for a child's whims if mommy doesn't have the money. However, things like braces and college may be ordered...well -- they were for me LOL I am currently paying for my son's braces and saving for him to go to school...fortunately he wants to stay close to his mother and go to a community college as of now. Hope that doesn't change!

And seriously woj...if the mother refuses to work or can't find work due to some disability then 100% of your friend's $2,000 IS going to the child...mom is just getting to ride along for free. I think your friend's perspective is all wrong on the matter, though I will agree it'd piss me the hell off is she wasn't working and living off my back.

yeah tell that to p diddy.. paying out 50k a month to some bitch for her kid.

LOL that's a drop in the bucket for that man.
The guy is a multimillionaire, why shouldn't his kids experience the same quality of living he does?

god forbid you or you're employer accidently miss a payment and don't remember it. they'll be sure to remind you 10 years down the road after the interest has rolled over every 12 months for 10 years. then you get a nice little bill for 8-10 grand after you thought youve payed everything in full. its all about money the more they can take out of you're wages the more they're likely to make. its about business not the child. but go ahead and keep you're narrow minded views i can see its brought you a long way. oh i don't have children so please spare me the BS, i just know the system.

lol whatever man believe what you want.. its just ridiculous plain and simple. some child support is good in my opinion but 9 times out of 10 its just the lady getting the best of the man and the courts love it because it flows right into they're pocket also. :2 cents:

LOL I'm narrowminded?

spare me man.

My brother in law is in over his head about $40K. They have passed all these bullshit laws to get deadbeat parents to pay but yet the guy is still roaming the face of this planet has not spent one day in jail, maybe had a few months of wages garnished...oh but God forbid he can't get a hunting license in Texas :1orglaugh that's just so harsh.

This can all be settled with 4 words.

Cheaper to keep her.

yes imho

you have taken over , the kids dont need him financially , they have you.. why confuse the kids.. its not about who's to blame or who's right , its about doing whats best for the child

until they make equal rights for custody they should abolish child support

LOL that's the most retarded thing I have ever heard...sorry but not surprising coming from you. I become less and less impressed with your "wisdom" each day.

eroswebmaster:

Any ass who owes $40K in child support and can't even keep up with $350/month in child support needs dumping in jail to focus his mind.

Tolerance is good, - and, if there is genuine hardship and inability to pay, that's another matter. But abusers of tolerance need to learn the hard way.

They are not only abusing the carer of the child, but also the child.

I agree wholeheartedly.
The youngest is now 13 he's paid maybe 1 1/2 -2 years worth of child support...never has been to jail, and has had his wages garnished for less than a year during this whole time.

I think the harshest thing he has to worry about is not being able to get a hunting or fishing license...LOL

Men that don't pay child support are usually lazy and always have an excuse.

BUT NOT ALWAYS. SOMETIMES the dads really ARE unemployed or just plain broke.

HOWEVER, these doctors and lawyers and corporate types or these folks that are making good money who don't pay child support are just lazy losers who would rather spend their money on themselves than their children.

Yep..and as Webby was noticing above $350 a month in child support isn't shit.

The guy's in Texas...he could get a job making $300-$400 a week take home. Hell his daughter makes that here in Vegas now at her very first job ever.

Get a roomate or two, beater car that will get him to and from work and be able to pay this EASY!!!

Teens are the expensive years - don't ya know it? :winkwink:

The irony probably is that he will never ever pay that $40K. Once the track record has been established, people seem to have bad memories about money.

Assuming he has the ability to pay, - that's just too embarassing not paying your way to help your own kids and leaving others to do it.

[QUOTE=eroswebmaster] If the child lived with you 100% of your income would be going to their support. QUOTE]

That's simply not true.

I think he meant if the child lived with you 100% of its support would come from your income :2 cents:

You don't know the extent of it...and what set this all off.

The guy filed for disability...and got it. He said he has depression.

He recieved $28,000 in back pay in November his kids saw $100 and not one christmas present.

Did he have to pay back the child support? No...will he ever have to? I don't know.

Now because he's on disability the youngest niece will also recieve a check, not the oldest she's 19 now.

However they have held it off for 2 months because they need the divorce decree to show that my sister has full custody.

Her copy here in Vegas does not have a judges signature on it...and the thing is they have been contacting him trying to get this and not once did he ever tell us that's why they were holding up her getting paid. We could have done what we could to get that paperwork ourselves.

So when we found out about this, my sister asked him if he could just go down to the county offices to get this paperwork for her. He said NO. He would not help her.

I wish nothing but pure evil on this man's existence down there in Texas. He used to be a friend, we've known him for most of our lives, was one of the smartest people I had ever known...and to the extent he has become so stupid and quite honestly pathetic is amazing.

I know 3 women who get "child support" and not one of them spends that money on their child, and they on many occaisions joke about how they are going shopping because "their child support check just came"
:2 cents:

[QUOTE=Mogulman]Of course not 100% exactly..what I mean is that if it was required that you had to spend 100% of your income to provide them with the essentials then you would have to.

Sure part of that income goes to paying rent which you would have to pay anyway...but if you were single you could scale down and live in a smaller place etc..etc.

Let's not get into semantics here...the simple fact is if you are only paying 15-30% of your income in child support YOU ARE GETTING OUT CHEAP.

Yeah so let's just stop child support all together fuck the kids who didn't ask to be born.

A) If a father was living with the child 100% would NOT be going just for the child. Ever heard of rent, gas, utilities etc. Does 100% of YOUR income go just ONLY for your kid? Um no. You eat don't you? You wipe your ass with toilet paper don't you? If a father gave 100% of his income to his child where would he live, how would he eat and how would he get to work to give his child his money? Try THINKING before saying retarded shit.

By the way the mother should be contributing 50% of the finances toward the child. WTF is this shit that the father should pay 100%? What happened to EQUAL rights? Bitches want "equal" rights until it cost them then it's "Oh but I'm just a poor little weak woman". You can't have it both ways.

I have a friend who pays $450 a month for child support and then his ex-wife expects him to pay 100% of the cost of their kids medication. Let's not even mention that she makes well over 50% more income than he does PLUS gets teh child support. Oh in the summers where he gets them for 2 straight months he still has to send her child support and she sends him NOTHING. Real fair isn't it? When a father gets his kids on week-end does the mother send money to the father to help out? Um no.

B) As far as only mothers getting custody well I have custody of my son and had him for over 6 1/2 years. His mother is a literal meth whore and I get NOTHING have gotten nothing in all that time. $350 a month? Hell I'd be happy with $100 a month. At the bare minimum I'm owed at least $8000 so take your man hating attitude and fuck off.

#1 you cocksmoker I am a man.

#2 you guys want to get into semantics over this 100% issue...you simple minded tards can't see what I'm saying after 3 pages no sense in explaining it to you.

and #3 you simple minded fuckwit these kids are owed around $40K

Listen TARD you are the TARD. If a child lives with mom and dad then COMMON SENSE will tell you 50% of support should come from dad 50% from mom. It's 2006 not 1906.

Secondly I am a father with custody that doesn't get child support and I have a friend that doesn't have custody and has to pay it and is getting fucked over. So I have experience in BOTH sides of the issue. Do you even have kids? Let those that know something about the issue first hand and talk and you LISTEN.

enough said :thumbsup

IN California often the courts order the father to provide medical coverage.
Infact I think it is required at default come to think of it and is not figured into CS.
Its in addition to CS.

How much has Medical Coverage increased over the last few years?
Answer: AlOT

Imagine costs of a disabled kid, or something.
Brutal.

LOL you didn't even read the thread you fucking hack.

No I don't have kids...been taking care of these tho' for the last 11 + years without any help from their deadbeat dad...and I gurantee you I have tons more experience with the family court system that you will ever have.

And it doesn't matter if you have a two parent household, 100% of your income will go to providing the essentials for them if necessary...and for most people out there it does...yes that includes rent and utilities..that is PROVIDING FOR YOUR KIDS YOU DUMB FUCK.

If you are single, never married or divorced with no kids you can skimp on certain things.

You can be late on utility payments..who cares if the water gets shut off for a day no big whoop.

Partied too hard last week short on cash for groceries...ramen noodles it is.

Been there done all that shit...but when you add kids to the mix you can't or shouldn't do this.

Don't have kids you can get by living with roommates, or a single bedroom apartment..hell even an effeciency.

Have kids, you're gonna have to get more than one room. You might even have to get more than two...you now have to consider where you live..you can't go living in the ghetto because you want them to go to good schools..so your costs GO UP.

Why can't you nits figure this shit out for yourselves.

I'm done with you Gator..you're a fucking joke anyway

Once again man it's something you would have to pay for if they lived with you anyways...and then some.

So many dads think their responsibility ends with what the courts require..that's simply not the case.

Some courts may go overboard with the support..but for the most part in my experiences that's just not true...those who are left taking care of the child get the short end of the stick men or women.

Hell I keep saying 11+ years...the youngest is 13 will be 14 this month..I've been providing for these kids financially, or they've been living with me since she was 1.

150 know it all over opinionated jerkoffs :disgust

I didn't say to stop Child Support. I just said the women I know don't use it for their Child. So maybe there should be a new system to ensure that the money is actually going to the child, rather than Nordstroms, and if that were the case I think more men would be willing to pay without the problems.

I should also point out that the fathers of those women's children, on top of the child support, pay for things for their child(ren) when they need it, because they know that the support doesn't go to them, but by law are forced to waste that money.

So maybe your question is why are so many women fucking bitches when it comes to Child Support?

:2 cents:

Hmm lets see 2k for 2 people that would leave $1500 for one person. Sounds about right to me.

If i got $350 a month for child support and I contributed $350 also... it still wouldnt be enough to raise a child for a month.

Bottom line is if you dont want the responsibility of a child, Watch who you stick your dick in or who you spread your legs for.

Thank you.

No shit fucktard. So when is the father responsible for 100%?

Ok say the mother living by herself would pay say $800 a month for rent ( just a # so don't get anal over it ) ok she has the kid so now she needs 2 bedroom which is $1000 a month. Ok so that's an extra $200 a month 50% of which SHE should be responsible for don't you think? But everyone think dad should pay for it all. Dad is not responsible for MOM's bills.

Also funny how you are so pissed some kid didn't get his $350 from daddy but you say NOTHING about ME also a single parent not getting MY share of child support other to say I'm a retard. Funny how when it's woman that is not supporting her child you let that pass.



I'm a joke. Who in the fuck are you? Please. Get real. Unless someone died and made you GOD then you're no better than anyone else.

God damn you idiots have a fucked up view of the world. What do you think the mother should just stick all of the bills aside until the child support check shows up? "Hey son, you can eat a months worth of food today, momma got her check!" They pay the shit out of pocket DAILY and it's usually well over the amount of the check so who gives a flying fuck what she spends the exact money on. Kids are a constant bill.

Boy I'd like to know what one of those child support checks look like. You know some of us dads are out there raising the kid while momma smokes meth and fucks whoever.

[QUOTE=GatorB]No shit fucktard. So when is the father responsible for 100%?

Ok say the mother living by herself would pay say $800 a month for rent ( just a # so don't get anal over it ) ok she has the kid so now she needs 2 bedroom which is $1000 a month. Ok so that's an extra $200 a month 50% of which SHE should be responsible for don't you think? But everyone think dad should pay for it all. Dad is not responsible for MOM's bills.

Also funny how you are so pissed some kid didn't get his $350 from daddy but you say NOTHING about ME also a single parent not getting MY share of child support other to say I'm a retard. Funny how when it's woman that is not supporting her child you let that pass.

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You're not even worth the time man...taking care of a kid I figured you'd at least get the costs associated with being a kid.

You can't tell me that most if not all of your income goes to providing for you and your son..that if he was never born things wouldn't be much cheaper for you...Jesus man...lay off the sauce, or whatever it is that makes you strap on the tin foil hat as soon as you log onto gfy.

Exactly chadglni! :thumbsup

Plus they look after the kids, run em back and forth from school and all the other activities. Then listen to their problems and clean the shit up after them.

Amounts like $350 are a joke. You could not employ a maid or nanny for that money.

Odd how ya hear the moms are on drugs, utter bitches, can't clothe their kids etc. Me smells a relationship problem :winkwink: