Video-Post jacks up Prices for PA
 

Anyone got the email that its now $100/month to get a PA with them?

Yes, I got it...Personaly I think it's to much money for submitting a gallery every second day. So...no more video-post for me :(

made some good sales?

These TGPs are just saying thanks to all of the webmasters that helped them grow over the years. You should be honored that want your money. :1orglaugh

lol lol

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I didn't do well with video-post and cancelled after the 2nd month.

I think you've hit that one head on. :1orglaugh

In times of FHGs nobody really needs free submitters anymore, why should anybody be thankful when he was building the traffic he send you for free and also does the review work.

Video-Post accs were worth nowdays price last year and you could easily make at least 600$ off their traffic per month when they still costed a 1$ onetime fee till the new reviewer came that fucked up my acceptance percent and denied all perfectly good galleries that were even listed at the hun without problems.

Since then no submits to video-post anymore for me.

ever since the nazis came on board like submit pass and let all the n00bs get partner accounts , while the trusted submitters have built the sites over the years. the prod has gone down.

so its bascially a big fuck you.

i am paying for partner accounts still but going directly to the owner, skipping submit pass, i will be no part of this crap, and paying for listings on sites that are brokered by gts, but skipping the middle man.

because i want to interact through the owner.

got it to, sucks pretty hard imho, first they let you submit one per day but you get declined for complete bs reasons, then they say well submit once every second day so there will be less submits and acceptence ratio will go up. After that they give the exact same reason for uppering the price, so they will sell less passes and get less submits and therefor you should get more listings. Problem is they should have stoped selling passes at a X number of passes instead of being greedy and wheeling in more cash for the same delivered.

One thing i learned from Scarface : Never underestimate the other mans greed.

Well I havent received the email but this is a real bolt from the blue. I made my feelings clear in the other thread re: changing to one every two days but theres no way I am paying $100 when mine is up. I can get a Worldsex/al4a pass for less than that & submit every day alternately.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

tgp's are the new paysites.. im assuming its a recurring charge?

join and forget.. the paysite model...

Yes, and the price jacks are probably based on demand; whether it makes the customers money or not.

Matt

Yup, they can accept twice the submittions now, doubling their money, plus they're charging more.

So, who's greed is it? Video-post or owner of the Submit Passes?.. I wonder. Would be nice to know actually, not merely for myself.

Wouldn't anyone else like to know that?

:)

Matt

jup woulkd love to know who made the actual decision to upper the price from 39 per month to 100 per month. allmost 200% on top of the price.

oh boy ...
Thanks for the news .

We emailed all VP clients with a very clear expination.

Why are we rasing prices?

1- VP asked us to
2- VP whats to make sure EVEY submitter gets a fair chance in getting listed
3- VP wants to increase gallery acceptance ratio by reducing the amount of partner accounts sold.
4- Most everyone will get their galleries listed if they are up to Video-post standards.

Submitpasses & Video-post will strive for customer satisfaction in order to achieve the best results.

If anyone has any question, please email me at rayATnichespotsDOTcom. I will be glad to help anyone out....as I/we always do.

Over and out, I'll be back on Monday. Have a good weekend

thx,
Ray

2,3,4 sound bullshit to me

VP wants to make more money and it's understandable

I heart Soul_Rebel. ;)

Ask shemp about that one.

The TGP model has evolved. The days of the TGPer getting paid for just working hard and submitting galleries are over. Nowadays the TGPer must pay the TGP he is submitting to, and work hard, and submit galleries. For most TGPers, this new model means less profit than before.

To a point, yes, but there are still plenty of people making tons of money off galleries and they don't pay a fucking dime for partner accounts.

Shemp, The Hun and a few others think that high quality custom galleries make them more unique and get them more bookmarkers, but in fact that isn't necessary.

I love it when people think they know better then The Hun or Shemp.
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It's too much... do not accept this.

Fight back.

Unless you run a TGP as successful as shemp.com or thehun.com, then you are not qualified to make this type of statement. :winkwink:

It's their concept and it works for them but it isn't neccecary to operate like this and you can make more money through other ways, if you don't get that you probably don't know much.

They're big oldskool TGPs and aren't going to change anything because things work for them the way they do it and they don't aim for more, that's all...

Use your brain...

ray knows nothing about the world of submitting, he just likes contacting every high traffic site and gets them to sell out to submitpass.

since submitpass was implemented all the sites have gone down in prod.

The statements you made above are the absolute most ignorant shit I've ever seen posted on here. And I've seen a lot. :1orglaugh

What the fuck! Shut the fuck up already!!!

Here is a thought, instead of crying like fucking loser kinds why dont you stop for a sec and realize that the free ride is OVER and instead of bitching at VP thank him for the many years of free traffic?

How many fucking years did he give you fucking losers a free ride? $39/month was a fucking joke..$100 is more than fair (let not forget the many years of free traffic).

Simple math ok? I got the email as well. If they are saying your acceptence ratio will go up, what is the problem? Lets say you sbmit 1 gallery every 2nd day (thats 15/month for the idiots) and lets say your galls are not that bad and you get 10 listed. That means that each galls costs you only $10..now lets say your a newbie submitter and you get only 5 galls listed, still thats only $20 each. Wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!

VP and Submitpasses...keep up the great work and dont worry about some newbies have to say.

Joy

And because of idiots like this SubmitPasses is here to stay. Why don't you shut up for a second and look at your stats - there is no fuckin' way you are making a sale for every gallery listed in like position 50. For some people this is a business and not an ass kissing contest.

Yeah, my first thoughts too, to make it .. anyway.

Business is business. There will be people who will pay to try it out, but eventually enough people will know if it still makes them money or not.. Really, you could just make a program to see what and how many sponsors / new advertisers there are each month, and you'll find out their client retention... that simply says they're either breaking even, or not even (to their expectations, it might take 3 months to see if they make money from it though as well, not saying otherwise or tryng to leave anything out).

Anyways...

Matt

Oh god I hate having to spell it out to idiots :(

Work this one out:

$39 a month, 1 submit per day, as it was 2-3 weeks ago with a ratio in the low 50% range (lets round it down to 50) = 15 galleries listed.

$39 a month 1 submit every two days with one hundred percent acceptance = 15 galleries per month. Thats what was touted in the other thread and as much as I grumbled I could live with it as in essence nothing changed although in reality it isnt 100%.

Now a price increase that puts them above the Worldsex/Al4a deal and is still alternate days?

It wouldnt be so bad if it was put back to every day, but then could you trust them to not change it back a few months down the line?

You are such a tool, but here's a reply for you anyhow.

First of all, I don't submit galleries so eat a pile of shit and keep your mouth shut in that regard.

Second, where do you think the years of free traffic came from? The onwner of these TGP's didn't buy content, they didn't pay to have galleries made, they didn't purchase recips from others. What did they do? They built their sites on the backs of loyal submitters for YEARS. Now that they don't need addtional traffic they charge you to pay for galleries, buy content, and submit to the TGP you had a part in growing.

Sell the top X spots, fine. Sell every spot after there are tens of thousands of galleries with recips to your site thanks to hardworking webmasters? Ha, pretty shitty if you ask me. There aren't many TGP's that would be where they are today if it weren't for submitters and who is getting fucked in the ass? Submitters. The same ones that brought in traffic, gave backlinks, helped SE rankings, and on and on.

Oh, and since you think you'll magically get more accepted with the new pricing, I'm sure you will! The new price is over 2.5 times more than the old one. They could accept 10% less buyers and still approve a higher % while making more money at the same time. :1orglaugh

Your original point was about bookmarkers and not about making money. Offcourse there is other ways of making money.

Now kindly check out the growth of the Hun over the last year. You might be in for a surprise.
I am not gonna point at the absolute number of uniques they grow each month. That would be unfair since they are the biggest. Take a look at the percentage of growth though. Then come back to me and tell me which reasonable sized new school tgp's do better. k?

Haha, even if new tgps grew at the same % it would be a shit comparison. New TGP's get tons of traded traffic that closes the site as soon as it is opened.

Word. :)

99% of all submitters are affiliates that don't buy content and neither do they pay others for making galleries.

The TGP owner builds up the traffic, do it yourself if you can and play by your own rules.