WARNING: DoMyPhoto.com selling underaged model sets?!?
 

I don't like ratting anyone out, but this is a serious issue. People...friends of mine...could potentially get into trouble if I remain silent, so I feel I have a responsibility to publicize this.

A couple of days ago, I posted a thread, without naming any names, that I discovered an underaged model among several sets I purchased. The set in question was fully clothed and the model was 17, so I didn't feel it was serious enough to point any fingers...and the general response seemed to support this unnecessity. Since then, I've discovered 3 more models who were underaged and did indeed appear nude in the sets I purchased. One of them was only 15, while the others were 17. (There was a 5th model I discovered from the included docs, but I don't have any sets of her, so I can't really comment on that.)

I talked with Mark of DoMyPhoto.com via icq and his initial response was "Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?" Suggesting it didn't matter how old she was in the photo...just how old she is now. I hope most people understand how wrong that thinking is.

Now, in all fairness, I should point out that what I base these claims on is (1) the birthdate on the model's ID and (2) the date she wrote on the release when she signed them. I cannot be sure when the set was actually shot, but who get's a model to sign a release 3 years before they actually shoot her?!? Besides, these documents are the only things a prosecuting body will have to go on as well. The girls could indeed be legal in the photos I have, but the only documentation I have support otherwise.

If anyone has any comments or suggestions, I would love to hear them.

what models are they on the site?

if you know for a fact there were underage at the time of the shoot he needs to be reported

Whooooa :(

They're not on the site...never were, luckily. I had only just gotten around to sorting through all the sets. I don't post sets until I confirm the docs...

how can you be sure the girl was only 15?

All I can claim is that she was 15 judging from the date she signed the release.
birthdate: 20.10.1986 (Oct 20, 1986)
release signed: 11.06.02 (June 6, 2002)

oh that don't look good at all

I don't know how I can be sure when the sets were shot. Although most of the releases were signed 2002, and Mark told me last year the sets were part of a semi-exclusive deal who's term has ended. My impression from our previous conversations was the sets were around 2 years old, but I can't find reference to that fact in my icq logs, so I can't be positive...

I'd ask the seller for clarification; still possible she signed at 15, but shot the set at 18+. Although even in that case, I'd guess that a model release signed by a minor would be invalid in the US (a parent/guardian would have to sign), so even if she was 18 in these sets, but 15 when she signed the releases, he should have gotten new releases signed. (I could be wrong, I'm unfamiliar with the international legal issues).

Also, while you absolutely wouldn't want them on a porn site, pictures of simple nudity of minors are not inherently illegal in the US. They could be deemed illegal depending on the context of their display (e.g. juxtaposed with pornography), or depending on the style of photos (genital closeups, sexual poses, etc.). It would certainly be a mistake for the seller to have mixed nudes of minors when marketing to adult webmasters, but nudity isn't the same thing as pornography.

Huh...I guess I can be sure. I received the 15 year old set on September 19, 2004... She wouldn't have turned 18 until October 20, 2004...

Not looking to shit stir but face shots of the girls might help some of us decide how much we need to freak out right now.

I just realized that one of the girls was only 17 when I received the set...no way she was legal in the photo.

I agree. These were NOT hardcore shoots. One of the alleged 17 year olds was spread...the 15 was topless/thong. I still wouldn't want to touch them with a 10 foot pole.

i guess/hope every serious content producer handles it the same way and lets the girl sign a new release for every shooting he's doing with her. and also a new id shot every time. and of course it would be impossible for you to prove to the DOJ that the girl might have been 18 at the time of shooting if you just have papers that make her 15 at that time.

now you should of course not use that sets, but i would be very surprised if a content producer after all this discussion sells sets of 15 year old girls. if that is true, it would be really sad. it's true that the laws about that in europe are much more liberal, but it's about protecting the customers that are in danger if they receive illegal content according to their local laws. :2 cents:

dont mind me, just grabbing this first page seat...

I thought about that, but I'm very hesitant about posting anything remotely linked with the set. I'll tell you that the girl does not look 15, and she had obviously gained some weight in the 1 year from the ID issue date and the date the release was signed...there's certainly a possibility Mark named and sent the wrong doc...but some of the others are too obviously the same girl for there to be a mistake.

This is some deep shit. Just make sure you are completely accurate before you take it to any other level.

I totally agree. And if this thread stops anyone from selling even potentially illegal sets, then I'm glad it did some good.
The ironic thing is the releases clearly state "I hereby affirm that I am over the age of 18 years...", when they are being signed by girls under that age.

I'm trying to be objective and give just the facts as I know them, so people can make their own judgements. ...even if I am a little pissed over the events.

Since Mark hasn't shown up in the thread, I'll post our icq along with his justification. The icq session spans a couple of days, so that might account for the time discrepancies...I just copy and pasted from the window:

ModelPerfect.com (03:35 PM) :
Mark...One of the sets you sent...with Ella...is underaged. According
to the release and ID, she was just 17 when the set was shot.
Mark (04:13 AM) :
Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?
ModelPerfect.com (03:31 PM) :
She wasn't over 18 when the set was shot...that's what matters.
ModelPerfect.com (03:19 PM) :
Mara is underaged too...and this set is full nude. WTF?!?
ModelPerfect.com (03:35 PM) :
and I still don't have docs for Kesa and Leo
ModelPerfect.com (04:03 PM) :
And just found Suz is 15...this is unacceptable
Mark (04:05 PM) :
where you found it? all models over 18. Not look please date of files.
computer had wrong date probably when it was created
ModelPerfect.com (04:06 PM) :
I look at birthdate and date release signed
ModelPerfect.com (04:06 PM) :
Just found Saka is 17 too
Mark (04:06 PM) :
ok, let me check it
ModelPerfect.com (04:07 PM) :
Suz if 15, Mark!!!
birthdate 20.10.1986
signed release 11.06.02
ModelPerfect.com (04:08 PM) :
and it's a nude set!
Mark (04:08 PM) :
she put wrong date in release. it's unpossible
ModelPerfect.com (04:13 PM) :
I found at least 4 models that are under 18!
ModelPerfect.com (04:13 PM) :
YOU are supposed to verify
Mark (04:14 PM) :
dont worry. look birth dates please. I sent wrong releases probably.
or girls did mistake. I will look all papers
ModelPerfect.com (04:22 PM) :
all I have to go on is the documents...and that's all the Federal
Government will have to go on... I can't trust excuses
Mark (04:24 PM) :
so?
ModelPerfect.com (04:25 PM) :
so?!?! it's illegal. I publish these photos, and I go to
jail...that's what's "so"
Mark (04:27 PM) :
you received this photos when models have OVER 18. what problem? did
you see birth dates? what problems? what panic? what?
you had silence few months and now you doing the panic
ModelPerfect.com (04:29 PM) :
photos were taken when they were underaged!!!!! it doesn't matter how
old they are NOW!!!
ModelPerfect.com (04:29 PM) :
This is first time I could go through all the sets. I haven't used
them at all yet
Mark (04:31 PM) :
are you sure? I can received releases in any time. I can not use girls
few years. and I can send wrong releases. anyway I can change it. WHAT
PROBLEM?
ModelPerfect.com (04:34 PM) :
I'm positive.
Mark (04:34 PM) :
I see
ModelPerfect.com (04:36 PM) :
I gotta go teach a class. We can continue later
Mark (04:37 PM) :
with pleasure

I have to leave for a few hours...I'll check back when I return. I apologize; I was anticipating the thread being done by now...

thats why i stick with the bigger names, i know im gettin what im paying for, and everything is on the up and up

Thats fucked up.

I was going to ask if by chance the date was reversed, which has caused panic to me before as well when buying from europe. But it looks like with what you posted above you already accounted for that. Well except for the release signed one which doesnt match the date of june 11th (june 6th) yet either way the year is correct.

Did you get copies of the passports as well? If so have you checked those in relationship to the releases?

messed up shit :(

Ok Logan.
1. you reselling my content over one year. Right? Do you have any problems before? I think you bought hundrest sets from me.
2. you received this content in Dec 2004. Why you told here that you received it in Sep 2004?
3. you ask me about this problem two days back. I told you: show me please ID of this model. I send wrong release probably. Or you can read Russian yourself?
4. show here please ID of this model and I will show her release. So webmasters will check it. I think you would like delete competitor via this way. If not then show please ID here.
5. do you have content of my models who have under 18 now?
6. if you think I provide wrong papers WHY you not deleted my content from your site still?
You was my customer over one year without problems. But you not value good partner. Miserable

This is fucked if it's correct... maybe he did the paperwork wrong?

I was interested in the ID/Passport dates as well, and not just the releases.

So he want to change the release docs to make them 18?

I do not think he meant it that way :2 cents: It is kind of obvious english is not his first nor best language.

yes, Logan not have claims to ID's. Just to two releases (from 300 releases). So can I do two mistakes in 300 things? And I proposed to Logan choose it. But Logan prefer big drama on GFY.
So Logan. Show please here ID's and I will show correct releases.

YAY russians :disgust

I mean I sent not correct releases probably (with wrong names). Sorry for my English.
And Swedguy why you have my confidential letter to Logan? Where you received it?

Sound reasonable to me. Should be nothing wrong with someone posting the ID's, specially if the provider just gave permission.

You're selling content with NON-ENGLISH model releases to American clients? What a class act! You really think they're going to look at Russian model releases and say, "hey, yeah, those are perfect!"

yes, again Russians. Because Logan not sent this post on Russian chats

Thats not good at all.

No, all releases on English. But few ID's on Russian.

Actually. YOU CANT.