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jact 01-26-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
No, all releases on English. But few ID's on Russian.

I have seen many russian ids, somehow I don't think that being in Russian hinders me or anyone who doesn't read Russian from reading a birth date in numeric format. And if it's not easy to match names from IDs to releases, you have more then just a little problem. Do you not realize what jepardy you're putting your clients in? Sloppy mistakes can put people in jail. Maybe you should find a burger flipping job?

swedguy 01-26-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
And Swedguy why you have my confidential letter to Logan? Where you received it?

Look at post #21 in this thread.

Basic_man 01-26-2005 03:35 PM

Damn, that suck big time ! I hope you will not be in trouble for this !

m2mm 01-26-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jact
I have seen many russian ids, somehow I don't think that being in Russian hinders me or anyone who doesn't read Russian from reading a birth date in numeric format. And if it's not easy to match names from IDs to releases, you have more then just a little problem. Do you not realize what jepardy you're putting your clients in? Sloppy mistakes can put people in jail. Maybe you should find a burger flipping job?

Let me remind - Logan had not any problems from me since 2003. And when he told me about problems I asked - show me please wrong releases and I will change it. But Logan showed not it. Why? I asked him here and he not showed again. Why? I can delete problem BEFORE he will use it. If he have this problems really. Did you see our dialogue? I proposed delete problems, but Logan prefer GFY.

m2mm 01-26-2005 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
Look at post #21 in this thread.

I see it now. Sorry. I not thought Logan will show it. Because he told in this dialogue than he is teacher. Can teacher do adult business in US?

jact 01-26-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
Let me remind - Logan had not any problems from me since 2003. And when he told me about problems I asked - show me please wrong releases and I will change it. But Logan showed not it. Why? I asked him here and he not showed again. Why? I can delete problem BEFORE he will use it. If he have this problems really. Did you see our dialogue? I proposed delete problems, but Logan prefer GFY.

He went to you when he found a problem, and then he found another, and another, and you said and I quote "What problem?". You obviously do not realize the gravity of the situtation that you're putting your clients and partners in, even if this was a mistake. "What problem?"

swedguy 01-26-2005 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
I see it now. Sorry. I not thought Logan will show it. Because he told in this dialogue than he is teacher. Can teacher do adult business in US?

Anyone can do what ever they want, as long as it's legal. It's a free country.

m2mm 01-26-2005 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
Anyone can do what ever they want, as long as it's legal. It's a free country.

Really? Do you want such teacher for your children?

GuestHouse 01-26-2005 03:55 PM

I have only good to say about Mark. I don't think those models are under age. I'm pretty sure there's just a mix up with docs or dates. Most of his models look 20+ and I'm pretty sure most of them are too.

Besides, if one sold sets of 15 years old girls just like that, wouldn't that person be cought by now? Again, I think Mark is clean on this one.

Out of the records, how come a teacher is in this biz? ;) (This comment has nothing to do with this thread, just surprised me as I read it.)

m2mm 01-26-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jact
He went to you when he found a problem, and then he found another, and another, and you said and I quote "What problem?". You obviously do not realize the gravity of the situtation that you're putting your clients and partners in, even if this was a mistake. "What problem?"

but I proposed delete problems before. and Logan was in panic. I told few times : not worry. Then I asked: what problems?
what I did uncorrect? we could solve problems immediately and without panic

GuestHouse 01-26-2005 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
Anyone can do what ever they want, as long as it's legal. It's a free country.

Stämmer nog, men vem skulle fått lämna sitt jobb samma dag som folk får kännedom om det? Inte fan vill jag att nån som försörjer sig på porr ska vara lärare för min 14-åriga dotter. Skulle skapat världens rubriker inte bara over there...

just a punk 01-26-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
YAY russians :disgust

...and YAY non-Russians of course ;)

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GuestHouse
I have only good to say about Mark. I don't think those models are under age. I'm pretty sure there's just a mix up with docs or dates. Most of his models look 20+ and I'm pretty sure most of them are too.

Besides, if one sold sets of 15 years old girls just like that, wouldn't that person be cought by now? Again, I think Mark is clean on this one.

Out of the records, how come a teacher is in this biz? ;) (This comment has nothing to do with this thread, just surprised me as I read it.)

thank you Quest! I hope boss of school where Logan is working will not read GFY : )

See Cig 01-26-2005 04:06 PM

was it non nude?

just a punk 01-26-2005 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
I see it now. Sorry. I not thought Logan will show it. Because he told in this dialogue than he is teacher. Can teacher do adult business in US?

I think he can... Actually I don't know what kind of knowledge such a teacher may teach the kids... According to that I saw on CNN, even a LOT of US priests are pedos. There was a big scandal regarding such a perversion, but as far as I remember these "priests" were not even imprisoned! Hey gays, WHTF is going with the US ppl? Can anyone tell me? :helpme

swedguy 01-26-2005 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
Really? Do you want such teacher for your children?

Who promotes good, healthy and legal porn? Sure, no problem for me.

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
Who promotes good, healthy and legal porn? Sure, no problem for me.

Because you doing same business. But I'm not sure about other parents. I'm not right?

jact 01-26-2005 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
Because you doing same business. But I'm not sure about other parents. I'm not right?

That's brilliant, take the heat off yourself by trying to make him look like a bad person for being in the same industry as you are. Let's not forget the point of this thread, underaged girls, bad documentation, bad communication.

just a punk 01-26-2005 04:21 PM

I'd like to see the scandal ID's here.

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
Huh...I guess I can be sure. I received the 15 year old set on September 19, 2004... She wouldn't have turned 18 until October 20, 2004...

so, let me show screen of my account on server of Logan.

http://domyphoto.com/ssh.jpg

You see I sent ALL FOLDERS in Nov 2004. So, you lie, Logan!!!
I'm waiting your apologies here. Now.

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jact
That's brilliant, take the heat off yourself by trying to make him look like a bad person for being in the same industry as you are. Let's not forget the point of this thread, underaged girls, bad documentation, bad communication.

ok, sorry. But why Logan not answered here? He try to bring me troubles and I try to protect. Logan, where are you? Where wrong ID's? Not ready still?

chodadog 01-26-2005 04:37 PM

Someone should be posting the IDs/Passports here so we can find out the truth here. This could totally fuck this guy's business up even if it turns out the models weren't underage. Proof either way is absolutely essential at this stage.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 04:40 PM

m2mm,

I'm a parent and I'm in this business...so what? YOU are in this business and no one either posting or surfing GFY has any right to point fingers at someone else wether they are a teacher, doctor, lawyer or burger flipper. It doesn't make you a bad person unable to teach anything just because your in this business...and what's to say he isn't a college professer teaching adults? Why do you just assume that he is a pervert teaching kids?

This seems like a feeble atemp to get the fingers to stop pointing at you for selling something that is questionable.

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:41 PM

And look please www.modelperfect.com now. Most content is my content. Most models is my models. Why Logan use it still if I selling underaged model sets?

PatrickKing 01-26-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
Really? Do you want such teacher for your children?

Maybe the point of your post was lost in translation but being in porn does not make a person unsuitable to be around children. A lot of us here are parrents, and fucking good parrents too.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
And look please www.modelperfect.com now. Most content is my content. Most models is my models. Why Logan use it still if I selling underaged model sets?

Obviously because he checked the ids and releases of those sets and thought they were ok....he isn't questioning EVERYTHING he got from you.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PatrickKing
Maybe the point of your post was lost in translation but being in porn does not make a person unsuitable to be around children. A lot of us here are parrents, and fucking good parrents too.

:thumbsup

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
m2mm,

I'm a parent and I'm in this business...so what? YOU are in this business and no one either posting or surfing GFY has any right to point fingers at someone else wether they are a teacher, doctor, lawyer or burger flipper. It doesn't make you a bad person unable to teach anything just because your in this business...and what's to say he isn't a college professer teaching adults? Why do you just assume that he is a pervert teaching kids?

This seems like a feeble atemp to get the fingers to stop pointing at you for selling something that is questionable.

Sorry, but I not told it. Let me remind. I was surprised when Logan showed here our confindential talk without my consent. Because Logan told he is teacher. Just my surprise.

count bling 01-26-2005 04:48 PM

underage?!?!?!?!?!?!?

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
Sorry, but I not told it. Let me remind. I was surprised when Logan showed here our confindential talk without my consent. Because Logan told he is teacher. Just my surprise.

Well, if you are suprized by that, imagine how suprized Logan was when he saw the model ids and releases of underage models he bought from you :uhoh

swedguy 01-26-2005 04:51 PM

Dude, showing when a set was uploaded or not isn't really the issue here. It's if the girl was underage when the pics were taken, not uploaded.

modF 01-26-2005 04:55 PM

Really quick on the teacher part:

ModelPerfect.com (04:36 PM) :
I gotta go teach a class. We can continue later


I'm thinking that he isn't going to teach a bunch of kids at 4:36pm, college perhaps? At any rate, I need to speek with you on icq asap Mark.

m2mm 01-26-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Obviously because he checked the ids and releases of those sets and thought they were ok....he isn't questioning EVERYTHING he got from you.

Title of this topic: "WARNING: DoMyPhoto.com selling underaged model sets?!? "
If Logan sure about it why he use my content still? He not told "WARNING: DoMyPhoto.com selling PART underaged model sets?!?"
If Logan unsure about if WHY he open this topic?

I tell again: Logan try to avoid competitor. Via bad way. WHY you not see it???

And again: WHERE YOU, LOGAN? WHY YOU NOT ANSWER? Guys, you do him work now. I hope he will tell 'thank'. Strange forum. Only scandals here.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by modF
Really quick on the teacher part:

ModelPerfect.com (04:36 PM) :
I gotta go teach a class. We can continue later


I'm thinking that he isn't going to teach a bunch of kids at 4:36pm, college perhaps? At any rate, I need to speek with you on icq asap Mark.

Good point.

m2mm 01-26-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Well, if you are suprized by that, imagine how suprized Logan was when he saw the model ids and releases of underage models he bought from you :uhoh

Are you sure he saw it? Where Logan? Why he not show it? You trust him because he is American? It's democration?
He told domyphoto is bad and you trust him. you trust him words. WHY YOU NOT WANT TRUST to FACTS?

just a punk 01-26-2005 05:05 PM

m2mm: nu u tebya i angliyskiy blin. udivlyaius', kak ludi voobshe tut tebya ponimayut...

2all: sorry for the non-English remark above.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m2mm
Are you sure he saw it? Where Logan? Why he not show it? You trust him because he is American? It's democration?
He told domyphoto is bad and you trust him. you trust him words. WHY YOU NOT WANT TRUST to FACTS?

It doesn't have anything to do with him being in America! You can't honestly believe that do you? Nope...I sat back and watched and as soon as you started in about him being a teacher, I decided to respond. At first I was simply trying to point out that being in this business has nothing to do with what ever other profession you may have.

m2mm 01-26-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx
m2mm: nu u tebya i angliyskiy blin. udivlyaius', kak ludi voobshe tut tebya ponimayut...

2all: sorry for the non-English remark above.

dumaesh' im eto vagno? im vagno chto ya russkii

dcortez 01-26-2005 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
I don't like ratting anyone out... If anyone has any comments or suggestions, I would love to hear them.

Well, seeing as you asked...

Issues like this are very serious and, regardess of who has done what, need to be dealt with responsibly as everyone named in this complaint is guaranteed to be added to a watch list.

Do you, ModelPerfect, feel you have done enough due dilligence in investigating your concerns BEFORE airing it so publicly?

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Originally Posted by pxxx
This is some deep shit. Just make sure you are completely accurate before you take it to any other level.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by m2mm
yes, Logan not have claims to ID's. Just to two releases (from 300 releases). So can I do two mistakes in 300 things?

No one here can really know what happened in this situation, however, to answer your question:

In 300 things (related to adult industry age legalities), you are permitted ZERO mistakes!

The US Justice Department seems more interested in 'nailing' anyone who violates even a minor technicality as evidenced by their initiatives (visa vi 2275 proposed ammendments) to binding criminal offences to clerical errors.

Under the proposed 2275 changes, you can still be charged with a criminal offence and face jail time even if all the models were of legal age at the time of production and the theme of the production was not illegal.

These are serious issues and mistakes like this cast shadows on more than just one enterprise. If the content producer is from a foreign country which may already have a questionable reputation, it does not help one's country mates.

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Originally Posted by jact
You're selling content with NON-ENGLISH model releases to American clients? What a class act! You really think they're going to look at Russian model releases and say, "hey, yeah, those are perfect!"

You mean, American 'clients' are willing to purchase content and accept 'legal' paperwork they cannot understand and/or verify knowing that their personal freedom is at risk?

I think the burden is clearly upon the American 'client' to authenticate what they are relying on to keep them out of jail.

I have always advocated the use of a CREDIBLE (in North America) notary public/lawyer in the country of origin to submit a legally-binding english language authentication of ID from a foreign country along with the ID copy itself.

If this type of credibility is not available, then the country in question has much work to do to secure trade with North America.

-Dino

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 05:22 PM

Doesn't this little bit of a conversation say it all? Come on :disgust

ModelPerfect.com (03:35 PM) :
Mark...One of the sets you sent...with Ella...is underaged. According
to the release and ID, she was just 17 when the set was shot.
Mark (04:13 AM) :
Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?
ModelPerfect.com (03:31 PM) :
She wasn't over 18 when the set was shot...that's what matters.
ModelPerfect.com (03:19 PM) :


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