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just a punk 01-26-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Doesn't this little bit of a conversation say it all? Come on :disgust

ModelPerfect.com (03:35 PM) :
Mark...One of the sets you sent...with Ella...is underaged. According
to the release and ID, she was just 17 when the set was shot.
Mark (04:13 AM) :
Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?
ModelPerfect.com (03:31 PM) :
She wasn't over 18 when the set was shot...that's what matters.
ModelPerfect.com (03:19 PM) :

Yeah... This one is really smells bad... Would like to hear some explanation from m2mm on "Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?" So is she really was 17 when the pics were done?

m2mm 01-26-2005 05:34 PM

I see this topic is too long. Let me propose next:

1. I'm sorry, I got very upset when people was accused me of underage.
2. Logan, when you comes back, post please the names of the models and I will post IDs.
3. I don't sell underage and I want to clear this up.

Thanks for your advices, lessons and even swearing :) I hope all will know who is right in short time :)

Antonio 01-26-2005 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Doesn't this little bit of a conversation say it all? Come on :disgust

ModelPerfect.com (03:35 PM) :
Mark...One of the sets you sent...with Ella...is underaged. According
to the release and ID, she was just 17 when the set was shot.
Mark (04:13 AM) :
Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?
ModelPerfect.com (03:31 PM) :
She wasn't over 18 when the set was shot...that's what matters.
ModelPerfect.com (03:19 PM) :

Dude, this guy can't speak English for shit. I can't even understand what he's trying to say with this:

"Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?"

Plus he said that he had NO PROBLEM showing the models' IDs. It seems to me that ModelPerfect is trying to discredit a competitor, or score a few points on a message board. Fucking classy, isn't it?

swedguy 01-26-2005 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
2. Logan, when you comes back, post please the names of the models and I will post IDs.

They have already been posted on page 1.

FlexxAeon 01-26-2005 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
They have already been posted on page 1.

damnm u beat me to it...was just gonna say that

m2mm 01-26-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx
Yeah... This one is really smells bad... Would like to hear some explanation from m2mm on "Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?" So is she really was 17 when the pics were done?

Cyber, let me ask: Can Logan to know WHEN I really shooted it? just was confused and I tried to ask Logan more. I implied 'shooted' not 'sent'. Sorry for my English again.

swedguy 01-26-2005 05:41 PM

To make it easy :)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=21

ModelPerfect.com (03:35 PM) :
Mark...One of the sets you sent...with Ella...is underaged. According
to the release and ID, she was just 17 when the set was shot.

ModelPerfect.com (03:19 PM) :
Mara is underaged too...and this set is full nude. WTF?!?

ModelPerfect.com (04:03 PM) :
And just found Suz is 15...this is unacceptable

ModelPerfect.com (04:06 PM) :
Just found Saka is 17 too

pxxx 01-26-2005 05:42 PM

That is not right at all.

SinBucks 01-26-2005 05:47 PM

Yikes this one could get interesting

Antonio 01-26-2005 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
dumaesh' im eto vagno? im vagno chto ya russkii

m2mm, what fucking difference makes if you're Russian or Chinese. This guy's accusing you of shooting underage, and IF ALL YOUR PAPERS ARE IN ORDER don't just stand here in the corner waiting for him to come back ......
Start another thread and tell your side of the story, go to another board and do the same. Attack is the best defence.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
Dude, this guy can't speak English for shit. I can't even understand what he's trying to say with this:

"Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?"

Plus he said that he had NO PROBLEM showing the models' IDs. It seems to me that ModelPerfect is trying to discredit a competitor, or score a few points on a message board. Fucking classy, isn't it?

Your kidding right?

Antonio 01-26-2005 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Your kidding right?

not at all

jact 01-26-2005 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
Cyber, let me ask: Can Logan to know WHEN I really shooted it? just was confused and I tried to ask Logan more. I implied 'shooted' not 'sent'. Sorry for my English again.

Let's see, your documentation should show WHEN you really shooted it.

Mr.Fiction 01-26-2005 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arg
Also, while you absolutely wouldn't want them on a porn site, pictures of simple nudity of minors are not inherently illegal in the US. They could be deemed illegal depending on the context of their display (e.g. juxtaposed with pornography), or depending on the style of photos (genital closeups, sexual poses, etc.). It would certainly be a mistake for the seller to have mixed nudes of minors when marketing to adult webmasters, but nudity isn't the same thing as pornography.

This kind of post will never work on GFY. Most GFY members think the definition of a "pedo" is every person who lives in any country where the age of consent is 17 or any other age below the U.S. age of consent.

Be careful, they will turn on you next. :1orglaugh

just a punk 01-26-2005 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
Dude, this guy can't speak English for shit. I can't even understand what he's trying to say with this:
"Hi Logan, but she have over 18 when I sent it. What problem?"

Ok, here is the Russian to English translation: "Hi Logan, she was over 18 at the moment when I sold you her pics. What's the problem?"

Rep 01-26-2005 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
Really? Do you want such teacher for your children?


rather have a pornographer teaching my children then photographing them. :2 cents:

ModelPerfect 01-26-2005 06:17 PM

Look at my last post...I clearly stated I had to leave for a few hours...that's why I haven't replied yet, Mark. I'm just stopping by to check in...I have to be somewhere for the next couple of hours again...I'll reply when I get back.

just a punk 01-26-2005 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
Cyber, let me ask: Can Logan to know WHEN I really shooted it? just was confused and I tried to ask Logan more. I implied 'shooted' not 'sent'. Sorry for my English again.

I was also confused with your word "sent" instead of "shot" (not "shooted" because "shoot" is an irregular verb ;)) So let's make it clear now. How old she was at the moment of shooting? I believe she was over 18 because otherwise someone may shoot a 3-yo girl in 50'x when sell it today as MATURE model. Course I'm kidding, but actually your situation is not really funny at all.

ModelPerfect 01-26-2005 06:20 PM

...And for the record, there are several different kinds of teachers...I teach martial arts. You assume too much...not that there would be anything wrong with that anyway. I remember one of the biggest names in adult (a few years ago anyway) being a former guidance counselor.

Antonio 01-26-2005 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx
Ok, here is the Russian to English translation: "Hi Logan, she was over 18 at the moment when I sold you her pics. What's the problem?"

No, buddy, that's broken English to English translation. This is only what YOU think he said. Well, I think we better wait and see if he's going to post the IDs.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 06:35 PM

100 under age models

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx
Ok, here is the Russian to English translation: "Hi Logan, she was over 18 at the moment when I sold you her pics. What's the problem?"

That's what my broken English to English dictionary says too :winkwink:

Antonio 01-26-2005 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
That's what my broken English to English dictionary says too :winkwink:

http://stfunoob.com/pictures/stfu.jpg

Antonio 01-26-2005 06:54 PM

lol
couldn't resist ;)

swedguy 01-26-2005 07:29 PM

Freaky looking dude.

dirtydesignz 01-26-2005 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
lol
couldn't resist ;)

Yea, but you shouldn't pick on girls :( And that poor boy is sooo ugly!

m2mm 01-26-2005 07:40 PM

Ok, I put all ID's HERE
What you think now?

m2mm 01-26-2005 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Obviously because he checked the ids and releases of those sets and thought they were ok....he isn't questioning EVERYTHING he got from you.

no. I sold content with Suz one year back. And he put it on site. And he tolad today: Suz have 15 yo.

m2mm 01-26-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
Look at my last post...I clearly stated I had to leave for a few hours...that's why I haven't replied yet, Mark. I'm just stopping by to check in...I have to be somewhere for the next couple of hours again...I'll reply when I get back.

Ok, but why you not answer now?

m2mm 01-26-2005 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
...And for the record, there are several different kinds of teachers...I teach martial arts. You assume too much...not that there would be anything wrong with that anyway. I remember one of the biggest names in adult (a few years ago anyway) being a former guidance counselor.

I see now why you like the war on public.

Antonio 01-26-2005 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz
Yea, but you shouldn't pick on girls :( And that poor boy is sooo ugly!

lol
I meant it as a joke ;)

My apologies if I offended (scared) you ;)

ModelPerfect 01-26-2005 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
Ok Logan.
1. you reselling my content over one year. Right? Do you have any problems before? I think you bought hundrest sets from me.
2. you received this content in Dec 2004. Why you told here that you received it in Sep 2004?
3. you ask me about this problem two days back. I told you: show me please ID of this model. I send wrong release probably. Or you can read Russian yourself?
4. show here please ID of this model and I will show her release. So webmasters will check it. I think you would like delete competitor via this way. If not then show please ID here.
5. do you have content of my models who have under 18 now?
6. if you think I provide wrong papers WHY you not deleted my content from your site still?
You was my customer over one year without problems. But you not value good partner. Miserable

OK...I cut my meeting short so I can address this. I'll answer in order...
1) I've been working with you...or at least buying content from you...Since March of 2004, so yeah; it's been almost a year. And I don't feel I had been mistreated...this isn't about that. I wouldn't say there's not been problems. The first order took over 2 months to receive 5,000 pics when the original estimate was 3 weeks for 10,000 pics. And of course I didn't get all the docs or licenses for a long time after that. And then there was the time you resold a set that you sold as exclusive...y'know? everyone makes mistakes; I don't think anyone is above that. That's why I haven't severed our relationship because of these things. This issue, however, is one I can't overlook. I don't hold personal grudges, but I still feel I have a responsibility to my friends and to other webmasters who may inadvertently publish content that was overlooked by you. Note: I'm not saying you did this on purpose, but the consequences would still be the same for the webmaster.
2) I received the content on Sept 9, 2004. The screenshot you posted earlier simply shows the date of the folders which reflects the latest activity in the folder. That would be when you added the docs.
3) All our communication is posted. You have the IDs already. If not, check the ftp I set up for you...I haven't deleted yet, and you can get the same ids I have. Suz is the 15. Ella, Mara, Saka, and April are 17 judging by the ids and releases. And the releases are in English not Russian...the IDs are Russian, but babelfish is all you need to confirm the text by the date says birthdate.
4) I'm not posting the IDs. I don't know enough about the legal consequences to do so. In the US, the release is invalid (minors cannot enter legally binding contracts), so I don't want to post her "likeness". Feel free to do so yourself...as I said before, they are still in the folder. No offense, but I don't think of you as my competition...you said you don't even want to sell non-exclusive anymore and I was going to be your only seller...so there's no point.
5) That doesn't matter. It's how old they are in the photo.
6) I never said all your content was illegal...I don't see any point in deleting content that I have verified as being legal...

wes 01-26-2005 08:08 PM

I dont know on this one..

wes 01-26-2005 08:09 PM

Damn that guy wiht the knife is ugly.. :(

ModelPerfect 01-26-2005 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m2mm
yes, Logan not have claims to ID's. Just to two releases (from 300 releases). So can I do two mistakes in 300 things? And I proposed to Logan choose it. But Logan prefer big drama on GFY.
So Logan. Show please here ID's and I will show correct releases.

You know as well as I do that I do have the IDs and releases. I wouldn't base this just on the release...how could I figure out her age if I only had one date?!? See my last post regarding posting IDs.

ironlung 01-26-2005 08:11 PM

my 1000th post.

ModelPerfect 01-26-2005 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeadultcontent
I was going to ask if by chance the date was reversed, which has caused panic to me before as well when buying from europe. But it looks like with what you posted above you already accounted for that. Well except for the release signed one which doesnt match the date of june 11th (june 6th) yet either way the year is correct.

Did you get copies of the passports as well? If so have you checked those in relationship to the releases?

The birthdate I got off the IDs, the release dates I obviously got off the releases.

m2mm 01-26-2005 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
OK...I cut my meeting short so I can address this. I'll answer in order...
1) I've been working with you...or at least buying content from you...Since March of 2004, so yeah; it's been almost a year. And I don't feel I had been mistreated...this isn't about that. I wouldn't say there's not been problems. The first order took over 2 months to receive 5,000 pics when the original estimate was 3 weeks for 10,000 pics. And of course I didn't get all the docs or licenses for a long time after that. And then there was the time you resold a set that you sold as exclusive...y'know? everyone makes mistakes; I don't think anyone is above that. That's why I haven't severed our relationship because of these things. This issue, however, is one I can't overlook. I don't hold personal grudges, but I still feel I have a responsibility to my friends and to other webmasters who may inadvertently publish content that was overlooked by you. Note: I'm not saying you did this on purpose, but the consequences would still be the same for the webmaster.
2) I received the content on Sept 9, 2004. The screenshot you posted earlier simply shows the date of the folders which reflects the latest activity in the folder. That would be when you added the docs.
3) All our communication is posted. You have the IDs already. If not, check the ftp I set up for you...I haven't deleted yet, and you can get the same ids I have. Suz is the 15. Ella, Mara, Saka, and April are 17 judging by the ids and releases. And the releases are in English not Russian...the IDs are Russian, but babelfish is all you need to confirm the text by the date says birthdate.
4) I'm not posting the IDs. I don't know enough about the legal consequences to do so. In the US, the release is invalid (minors cannot enter legally binding contracts), so I don't want to post her "likeness". Feel free to do so yourself...as I said before, they are still in the folder. No offense, but I don't think of you as my competition...you said you don't even want to sell non-exclusive anymore and I was going to be your only seller...so there's no point.
5) That doesn't matter. It's how old they are in the photo.
6) I never said all your content was illegal...I don't see any point in deleting content that I have verified as being legal...

Do you have any facts? Or words only? If I gave you so much problems why you bought and bought content from me after it?
And if you had little problems only why you show it on GFY? I told you: I will not talk with you? I asked what should I do, you said: we will talk later. No?
I'm sure - you post it here because you want move me as competitor. No? Then why?

m2mm 01-26-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=ModelPerfect]
4) I'm not posting the IDs. I don't know enough about the legal consequences to do so. In the US, the release is invalid (minors cannot enter legally binding contracts), so I don't want to post her "likeness". Feel free to do so yourself...as I said before, they are still in the folder. No offense, but I don't think of you as my competition...you said you don't even want to sell non-exclusive anymore and I was going to be your only seller...so there's no point.
[QUOTE]

ok, I sent it. HERE
What you will answer now?

m2mm 01-26-2005 08:27 PM

you not sent it because you are not sure that you are right. You will tell now: I not saw this ID's. yes?


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