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J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 02:07 PM

Is Geo-IP Marketing Deceptive Or Simply A Great Way To Increase Clicks And Revenue?
 
IMHO selling sex sites is selling FANTASY ...

All these reality sites popping up all over the place in the past couple years are just that ... FANTASY ...

Most of the he girls names are FAKE ...

Their AGES are MOSTLY MADE UP ...

Tons of webmasters fly ads for sites saying 18 - 19 year old girls when the models are 25 years old ...

WE'RE SELLING FANTASY PURE AND SIMPLE!

I'm leaning toards the fact that GEO-IP Marketing catches the eye and increases click thrus therefore making you efforts and more effective and profitable.

:2 cents:

http://1akdtg041034lfr1sweja015069s....es/jstyles.jpg

sickkittens 12-09-2004 02:09 PM

It's both. But if the surfer really expects to see girls from his/her area, then he will cancel. :2 cents:

FuckFind 12-09-2004 02:09 PM

i agree, pretty deceptive, just another gimic....will work though, targetting is always key.


FF

WiredGuy 12-09-2004 02:09 PM

It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff :)

WG

O MARINA 12-09-2004 02:11 PM

Works very well for sexsearch

SetTheWorldonFire 12-09-2004 02:12 PM

I'm against the quick buck.

so my :2 cents: is it's deceptive unless you really find someone or provide girls in their area.

Dalai lama 12-09-2004 02:13 PM

I'm not in groot ijsselmonde :1orglaugh

Anthony 12-09-2004 02:13 PM

J,

Hit me up. I want this.

GTS Mark 12-09-2004 02:18 PM

I just started experimenting with geo-ip marketing and it's amazing how many clicks I am getting from banners that previously got 1/3 the amount of clicks.

DH

Meloman 12-09-2004 02:18 PM

I think it's great marketing as long as you're pushing something that actually has girls in the surfers area. AdultFriendFinder is soooooo huge I can't see them not having girls at least withing 50 miles of anyone. Even if the Geo targeting is a bit off it should still at least grab the surfers atttention enough to click and check it out. Then once on the actual site the surfers city might actually be found.

Geo I.P targeting sounds good to me :thumbsup

RRRED 12-09-2004 02:19 PM

There is nothing misleading about the geo targetted ads... I always try to picture the mindset of a surfer that has just been surfing for hours looking for the right thing.. all the popups he's battling, etc etc.... everything looks the same after a while... till you see that in Anacortes there's some lesbians in a van looking for a third. It grabs your attention plain and simple...

There's nowhere in the members areas anyway that give any hint as to where the model is from and who cares? It's no different than stating a false age of a model or whatever.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-09-2004 02:20 PM

Ummm Duh....

I think a hotter topic was how major affilaite programs topped off thegeo traffic from webmasters and made profits for themselves before ever considering an option for affilaites!!!

Where is your sense of drama Styles?

Some folks made huge huge cash off webmasters that had no clue about foriegn traffic potential.

detoxed 12-09-2004 02:22 PM

too bad they are wrong for 50% of surfers or more

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff :)

WG

Geo-ip tracking can NEVER be 100% accurate ALL THE TIME. There are a number of variables at play. The geo provider where you get your "tables" from, who owns the IPs in what city (which ISP), whether or not you're surfing on proxies or AOL, etc.

We're looking at 70% - 80% accuracy with what we're providing to Adult Programs.

That's HUGE when you takeinto consideration the following:

The fact of the matter is simply that surfers are somehow drawn to click when they see their city or something in their closely surrounding area ... THAT'S IT!

More clicks translates into more sales ... cut and dry!

:2 cents:

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by O MARINA
Works very well for sexsearch
Nice to see a happy client, Marina :)

:thumbsup

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
I'm against the quick buck.

so my :2 cents: is it's deceptive unless you really find someone or provide girls in their area.

The adult dating application of this markiting is a mere drop in the bucket.

:winkwink:

sean416 12-09-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
http://1akdtg041034lfr1sweja015069s....es/jstyles.jpg
is that picture actually a geo ad? or does it say toronto for everyone? thats pretty fuckin cool if you ask me.

rml_bob 12-09-2004 02:34 PM

The Geo-IP targetting at AdultCashJunction actually shows the dating profile results from the viewers region making it more effective.

Take a look for yourself:
http://www.adultcashjunction.com/mar...tools/geo_ads/

Tanker 12-09-2004 02:34 PM

Jonathan contact me! please

I want to follow up with you!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-09-2004 02:35 PM

It says MonterayPark to me.

sean416 12-09-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
It says MonterayPark to me.
Cool.

That really blows my mind that you can do that kind of shit with images. I thought it was all tables, etc.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-09-2004 02:46 PM

It proves the power of geomarketed ad's:)

Ya wouldnt expect Styles to prove his point any other way than straight up:)

Drake 12-09-2004 02:50 PM

It's no more deceiving than the concepts used on reality sites. Bangbus isn't real. It's just good marketing.

Geo-IP Marketing probably shouldn't be used in some places. In others it's fine and adds to the 'illusion' or fantasy you're trying to portray.

Meloman 12-09-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
Geo-ip tracking can NEVER be 100% accurate ALL THE TIME.


Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$

We're looking at 70% - 80% accuracy with what we're providing to Adult Programs.

I looked into Geo Targeting software a while ago for a client of mine. There's some mainstream companies out there that offer geo targeting service at pretty high prices. I don't think they are using the same simple scripts that most adult companies use.

I mean some of the companies wanted to charge like $5K a month and such. For that kind of price I'm assuming they are able to geo target pretty accurately and have a bigger setup than most.

The price those companies offered were so high though we skipped over them so I don't know the rest of there details for sure.

I bet dialer companies like Profit Plantation probably have some really good software though...but that's all in house.

Yngwie 12-09-2004 02:53 PM

Geo targetting would be perfect for webcam sites.. The odds of the surfer finding a girl from his town are pretty good. As for regular porn sites I think it's useless.

Drake 12-09-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
I looked into Geo Targeting software a while ago for a client of mine. There's some mainstream companies out there that offer geo targeting service at pretty high prices. I don't think they are using the same simple scripts that most adult companies use.

I mean some of the companies wanted to charge like $5K a month and such. For that kind of price I'm assuming they are able to geo target pretty accurately and have a bigger setup than most.

The price those companies offered were so high though we skipped over them so I don't know the rest of there details for sure.

I bet dialer companies like Profit Plantation probably have some really good software though...but that's all in house.

What script are most adult companies using right now?

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony
J,

Hit me up. I want this.

Good talking to you, Ant!

Get back to me ASAP, and I will hook you up!

:)

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I just started experimenting with geo-ip marketing and it's amazing how many clicks I am getting from banners that previously got 1/3 the amount of clicks.

DH

That's very pwerful, and exactly why I got involved with this.

You and I should talk.

Hiit me up on ICQ!

RRRED 12-09-2004 03:05 PM

Go Jonathan! :thumbsup

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
is that picture actually a geo ad? or does it say toronto for everyone? thats pretty fuckin cool if you ask me.
Yeah, man - geo ad!

and it's a JPEG no less!

Not a slow iframe w/ textual html or a cheesy png file!

Can be integrated into ads, site tours, FHG's, etc.

Program operators are starting to see the power

:thumbsup

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
Jonathan contact me! please

I want to follow up with you!

Check your ICQ - I hit you a few minutes ago

:thumbsup

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
Cool.

That really blows my mind that you can do that kind of shit with images. I thought it was all tables, etc.

We have a desk top application that works with serverside software ... very cool patent pending stuff :)

Jamdin 12-09-2004 03:15 PM

The ad says Wichita for me and I wouldn't date anybody from there. Kansas City has the hottest chicks :thumbsup

adamorgasm 12-09-2004 03:17 PM

one of the tests we ran did 98 profiles and 9 sales from a nongeotargeted ad that just said "find a fuck buddy in your area", the geotargeted version did 680 profiles and 39 sales

http://timepilot.sexsearch.com/200x400_sxsrch65.jpg

if you want to use ads like these just ask Marina & she'll hook you up

The Other Steve 12-09-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff :)

WG

Similar for me - I'm about 3.5 hours drive from where the image told me I was.

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hagbard 12-09-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml_bob
The Geo-IP targetting at AdultCashJunction actually shows the dating profile results from the viewers region making it more effective.

Take a look for yourself:
http://www.adultcashjunction.com/mar...tools/geo_ads/

Yup, and if I can find a surfer that wants to wait 20 seconds for the privilege of seeing my ad, I'll give you a call!

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adamorgasm
one of the tests we ran did 98 profiles and 9 sales from a nongeotargeted ad that just said "find a fuck buddy in your area", the geotargeted version did 680 profiles and 39 sales

http://timepilot.sexsearch.com/200x400_sxsrch65.jpg

if you want to use ads like these just ask Marina & she'll hook you up

Wow!

That's AWESOME, Adam!

I'm thrilled it's working so well for you!

:thumbsup

We appreciate your business!

baddog 12-09-2004 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
is that picture actually a geo ad? or does it say toronto for everyone? thats pretty fuckin cool if you ask me.
Says Torrance for me . . . .guess it explains the earlier thread rrred had

J$tyle$ 12-09-2004 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hagbard
Yup, and if I can find a surfer that wants to wait 20 seconds for the privilege of seeing my ad, I'll give you a call!
That's one of the major problems i have with iframe ads ... sure they'll increase clicks and revenue a healthy %, but what about all the traffic you lose that doesn't want to wait for it to load?

What we have is a simple JPEG


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