Is Geo-IP Marketing Deceptive Or Simply A Great Way To Increase Clicks And Revenue? - GoFuckYourself.com

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 02:07 PM

IMHO selling sex sites is selling FANTASY ...

All these reality sites popping up all over the place in the past couple years are just that ... FANTASY ...

Most of the he girls names are FAKE ...

Their AGES are MOSTLY MADE UP ...

Tons of webmasters fly ads for sites saying 18 - 19 year old girls when the models are 25 years old ...

WE'RE SELLING FANTASY PURE AND SIMPLE!

I'm leaning toards the fact that GEO-IP Marketing catches the eye and increases click thrus therefore making you efforts and more effective and profitable.

sickkittens · 12-09-2004, 02:09 PM

It's both. But if the surfer really expects to see girls from his/her area, then he will cancel.

FuckFind · 12-09-2004, 02:09 PM

i agree, pretty deceptive, just another gimic....will work though, targetting is always key.

FF

WiredGuy · 12-09-2004, 02:09 PM

It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff

WG

O MARINA · 12-09-2004, 02:11 PM

Works very well for sexsearch

SetTheWorldonFire · 12-09-2004, 02:12 PM

I'm against the quick buck.

so my

is it's deceptive unless you really find someone or provide girls in their area.

Dalai lama · 12-09-2004, 02:13 PM

I'm not in groot ijsselmonde

Anthony · 12-09-2004, 02:13 PM

J,

Hit me up. I want this.

GTS Mark · 12-09-2004, 02:18 PM

I just started experimenting with geo-ip marketing and it's amazing how many clicks I am getting from banners that previously got 1/3 the amount of clicks.

DH

Meloman · 12-09-2004, 02:18 PM

I think it's great marketing as long as you're pushing something that actually has girls in the surfers area. AdultFriendFinder is soooooo huge I can't see them not having girls at least withing 50 miles of anyone. Even if the Geo targeting is a bit off it should still at least grab the surfers atttention enough to click and check it out. Then once on the actual site the surfers city might actually be found.

Geo I.P targeting sounds good to me

RRRED · 12-09-2004, 02:19 PM

There is nothing misleading about the geo targetted ads... I always try to picture the mindset of a surfer that has just been surfing for hours looking for the right thing.. all the popups he's battling, etc etc.... everything looks the same after a while... till you see that in Anacortes there's some lesbians in a van looking for a third. It grabs your attention plain and simple...

There's nowhere in the members areas anyway that give any hint as to where the model is from and who cares? It's no different than stating a false age of a model or whatever.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-09-2004, 02:20 PM

Ummm Duh....

I think a hotter topic was how major affilaite programs topped off thegeo traffic from webmasters and made profits for themselves before ever considering an option for affilaites!!!

Where is your sense of drama Styles?

Some folks made huge huge cash off webmasters that had no clue about foriegn traffic potential.

detoxed · 12-09-2004, 02:22 PM

too bad they are wrong for 50% of surfers or more

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff

WG

Geo-ip tracking can NEVER be 100% accurate ALL THE TIME. There are a number of variables at play. The geo provider where you get your "tables" from, who owns the IPs in what city (which ISP), whether or not you're surfing on proxies or AOL, etc.

We're looking at 70% - 80% accuracy with what we're providing to Adult Programs.

That's HUGE when you takeinto consideration the following:

The fact of the matter is simply that surfers are somehow drawn to click when they see their city or something in their closely surrounding area ... THAT'S IT!

More clicks translates into more sales ... cut and dry!

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by O MARINA
Works very well for sexsearch

Nice to see a happy client, Marina

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
I'm against the quick buck.

so my is it's deceptive unless you really find someone or provide girls in their area.

The adult dating application of this markiting is a mere drop in the bucket.

sean416 · 12-09-2004, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$

is that picture actually a geo ad? or does it say toronto for everyone? thats pretty fuckin cool if you ask me.

rml_bob · 12-09-2004, 02:34 PM

The Geo-IP targetting at AdultCashJunction actually shows the dating profile results from the viewers region making it more effective.

Take a look for yourself:
http://www.adultcashjunction.com/mar...tools/geo_ads/

Tanker · 12-09-2004, 02:34 PM

Jonathan contact me! please

I want to follow up with you!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-09-2004, 02:35 PM

It says MonterayPark to me.

sean416 · 12-09-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
It says MonterayPark to me.

Cool.

That really blows my mind that you can do that kind of shit with images. I thought it was all tables, etc.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-09-2004, 02:46 PM

It proves the power of geomarketed ad's

Ya wouldnt expect Styles to prove his point any other way than straight up

Drake · 12-09-2004, 02:50 PM

It's no more deceiving than the concepts used on reality sites. Bangbus isn't real. It's just good marketing.

Geo-IP Marketing probably shouldn't be used in some places. In others it's fine and adds to the 'illusion' or fantasy you're trying to portray.

Meloman · 12-09-2004, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
Geo-ip tracking can NEVER be 100% accurate ALL THE TIME.

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$

We're looking at 70% - 80% accuracy with what we're providing to Adult Programs.

I looked into Geo Targeting software a while ago for a client of mine. There's some mainstream companies out there that offer geo targeting service at pretty high prices. I don't think they are using the same simple scripts that most adult companies use.

I mean some of the companies wanted to charge like $5K a month and such. For that kind of price I'm assuming they are able to geo target pretty accurately and have a bigger setup than most.

The price those companies offered were so high though we skipped over them so I don't know the rest of there details for sure.

I bet dialer companies like Profit Plantation probably have some really good software though...but that's all in house.

Yngwie · 12-09-2004, 02:53 PM

Geo targetting would be perfect for webcam sites.. The odds of the surfer finding a girl from his town are pretty good. As for regular porn sites I think it's useless.

Drake · 12-09-2004, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
I looked into Geo Targeting software a while ago for a client of mine. There's some mainstream companies out there that offer geo targeting service at pretty high prices. I don't think they are using the same simple scripts that most adult companies use.

I mean some of the companies wanted to charge like $5K a month and such. For that kind of price I'm assuming they are able to geo target pretty accurately and have a bigger setup than most.

The price those companies offered were so high though we skipped over them so I don't know the rest of there details for sure.

I bet dialer companies like Profit Plantation probably have some really good software though...but that's all in house.

What script are most adult companies using right now?

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Anthony
J,

Hit me up. I want this.

Good talking to you, Ant!

Get back to me ASAP, and I will hook you up!

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I just started experimenting with geo-ip marketing and it's amazing how many clicks I am getting from banners that previously got 1/3 the amount of clicks.

DH

That's very pwerful, and exactly why I got involved with this.

You and I should talk.

Hiit me up on ICQ!

RRRED · 12-09-2004, 03:05 PM

Go Jonathan!

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
is that picture actually a geo ad? or does it say toronto for everyone? thats pretty fuckin cool if you ask me.

Yeah, man - geo ad!

and it's a JPEG no less!

Not a slow iframe w/ textual html or a cheesy png file!

Can be integrated into ads, site tours, FHG's, etc.

Program operators are starting to see the power

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Tanker
Jonathan contact me! please

I want to follow up with you!

Check your ICQ - I hit you a few minutes ago

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
Cool.

That really blows my mind that you can do that kind of shit with images. I thought it was all tables, etc.

We have a desk top application that works with serverside software ... very cool patent pending stuff

Jamdin · 12-09-2004, 03:15 PM

The ad says Wichita for me and I wouldn't date anybody from there. Kansas City has the hottest chicks

adamorgasm · 12-09-2004, 03:17 PM

one of the tests we ran did 98 profiles and 9 sales from a nongeotargeted ad that just said "find a fuck buddy in your area", the geotargeted version did 680 profiles and 39 sales

if you want to use ads like these just ask Marina & she'll hook you up

The Other Steve · 12-09-2004, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff

WG

Similar for me - I'm about 3.5 hours drive from where the image told me I was.

AlexShark · 12-09-2004, 03:22 PM

I am selling this script that makes banners like this:

for 100$.
Text, Background color, fonts and fonts colors, banner size are configurable.

Requirements: php, mysql, gdlibraries

I have the country database but you can purchase an additional city database here

If you need custom programming / configuration on it let's talk
194649005

hagbard · 12-09-2004, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rml_bob
The Geo-IP targetting at AdultCashJunction actually shows the dating profile results from the viewers region making it more effective.

Take a look for yourself:
http://www.adultcashjunction.com/mar...tools/geo_ads/

Yup, and if I can find a surfer that wants to wait 20 seconds for the privilege of seeing my ad, I'll give you a call!

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adamorgasm
one of the tests we ran did 98 profiles and 9 sales from a nongeotargeted ad that just said "find a fuck buddy in your area", the geotargeted version did 680 profiles and 39 sales

if you want to use ads like these just ask Marina & she'll hook you up

Wow!

That's AWESOME, Adam!

I'm thrilled it's working so well for you!

We appreciate your business!

baddog · 12-09-2004, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
is that picture actually a geo ad? or does it say toronto for everyone? thats pretty fuckin cool if you ask me.

Says Torrance for me . . . .guess it explains the earlier thread rrred had

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hagbard
Yup, and if I can find a surfer that wants to wait 20 seconds for the privilege of seeing my ad, I'll give you a call!

That's one of the major problems i have with iframe ads ... sure they'll increase clicks and revenue a healthy %, but what about all the traffic you lose that doesn't want to wait for it to load?

What we have is a simple JPEG

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlexShark
I am selling this script that makes banners like this:

for 100$.
Text, Background color, fonts and fonts colors, banner size are configurable.

Requirements: php, mysql, gdlibraries

I have the country database but you can purchase an additional city database here

If you need custom programming / configuration on it let's talk
194649005

With respect to your efforts to drum up business in my thread, NOT COOL!

Oour geo ad and graphic generating system has been in development for 2 years, and actively used in the real world for the past 8 months.

Our system is a patent pending windows client / unix server combination that allows a graphic designer with zero programming skills to work creatively and intuitively.

Editing configuration files and setting font locations pixel by pixel is just NOT the same thing .

Plus you renamed your PNG file from last night to a gif.

LOL

Ours can use ANY source image. Not blank and cheesy looking

... and for the record - changing a bg color is NOT the same as a pic of a hot chick

Crypt · 12-09-2004, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
IMHO selling sex sites is selling FANTASY ...

All these reality sites popping up all over the place in the past couple years are just that ... FANTASY ...

Most of the he girls names are FAKE ...

Their AGES are MOSTLY MADE UP ...

Tons of webmasters fly ads for sites saying 18 - 19 year old girls when the models are 25 years old ...

WE'RE SELLING FANTASY PURE AND SIMPLE!

I'm leaning toards the fact that GEO-IP Marketing catches the eye and increases click thrus therefore making you efforts and more effective and profitable.

you get some errors with the city , your script cant convert other language accent

I see a big sqare instead of a city.

49thParallel · 12-09-2004, 03:43 PM

I'm not a big fan of geoads for dating sites.

Using these for a reality type site is one thing...the reality site is not selling the potential of meeting the girl.

On dating sites the girl is the "product" that is being sold. Therefore, to show a picture of a girl that doesn't live in the area is false advertising.

This would be the same as a store that only sells Sony & JVC t.v's placing ads that say "Get your Harmon Kardon T.V. here", when they don't sell the brand.

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
you get some errors with the city , your script cant convert other language accent

I see a big sqare instead of a city.

the db is english and not full unicode. there is not a full unicode db out there at this point. we are working on the very FIRST full unicode db of this type right now.

Soon!

But agian - 70 -80% accurate is better than MOST!

Btw - thanks for bringing that up. I meant to address it in a previous post

FightThisPatent · 12-09-2004, 03:55 PM

Besides the Simpsons already inventing Geo-IP, Digital Envoy as their patent on it:

AVn article: http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=107182

PR about their patent: http://www.crossbowventures.com/news...icle_116.shtml

and lastly, the actual patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,757,740

It was approved On June 29,2004, but filed IN march 31, 2000.

In order to invalidate the patent, you would have to be able to document use of geo-ip BEFORE March 31, 1999.

If you were using geo-ip between Match 31, 1999 and March 31, 2000, then you could be safe from this patent as a "prior inventor", but not "prior art".

Fight the Crap, Someone already patented it!

Crypt · 12-09-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
the db is english and not full unicode. there is not a full unicode db out there at this point. we are working on the very FIRST full unicode db of this type right now.

Soon!

But agian - 70 -80% accurate is better than MOST!

Btw - thanks for bringing that up. I meant to address it in a previous post

np, it was just a comment ;) i see the same error everywhere hehe

Nice if you can solve this ;)

gdog · 12-09-2004, 04:19 PM

Anybody tried the software these guys are offering for this

http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolocati...ing?rId=google

It looks like they are taking it to the next level and actually changing the ad depending on the country/region etc to match the user.

So a user in china would see an ad in chinese not "these hot girls are in Beijing" the whole ad would be different.

That to me is way more effective actually physically changing the contents of the page to match the surfers country.

This was the summary:
By being aware of users from different nationalities who speak different languages, and using the techniques outlined in this article, you can create truly global applications with minimum effort.

G

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-09-2004, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Besides the Simpsons already inventing Geo-IP, Digital Envoy as their patent on it:

AVn article: http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=107182

PR about their patent: http://www.crossbowventures.com/news...icle_116.shtml

and lastly, the actual patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,757,740

It was approved On June 29,2004, but filed IN march 31, 2000.

In order to invalidate the patent, you would have to be able to document use of geo-ip BEFORE March 31, 1999.

If you were using geo-ip between Match 31, 1999 and March 31, 2000, then you could be safe from this patent as a "prior inventor", but not "prior art".

Fight the Crap, Someone already patented it!

I thought the same shit. This technolgy was patented a long ass time ago. Only Savey webmasters utilised it (like myself) and never told a fuck all to anyone about its effectiveness.

Oh well another cat another bag...

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Besides the Simpsons already inventing Geo-IP, Digital Envoy as their patent on it:

AVn article: http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=107182

PR about their patent: http://www.crossbowventures.com/news...icle_116.shtml

and lastly, the actual patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,757,740

It was approved On June 29,2004, but filed IN march 31, 2000.

In order to invalidate the patent, you would have to be able to document use of geo-ip BEFORE March 31, 1999.

If you were using geo-ip between Match 31, 1999 and March 31, 2000, then you could be safe from this patent as a "prior inventor", but not "prior art".

Fight the Crap, Someone already patented it!

Intelligent post as usual. What you are showing as patented is the process for building the DATABASE that a program like ours would use.

This is a process patent just as ours is. We are in the process of patenting other unique aspects of our system.

Our patent does not in any way conflict with this patent.

Rest assured we conducted a very thorough patent search prior to filing and are in great shape in regards to both prior art and patentability.

J$tyle$ · 12-09-2004, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
Says Torrance for me . . . .guess it explains the earlier thread rrred had

the web's a wonderful place, right?

Talk about gum and thow in some Geo marketing

12-09-2004, 02:07 PM	#1
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Is Geo-IP Marketing Deceptive Or Simply A Great Way To Increase Clicks And Revenue? IMHO selling sex sites is selling FANTASY ... All these reality sites popping up all over the place in the past couple years are just that ... FANTASY ... Most of the he girls names are FAKE ... Their AGES are MOSTLY MADE UP ... Tons of webmasters fly ads for sites saying 18 - 19 year old girls when the models are 25 years old ... WE'RE SELLING FANTASY PURE AND SIMPLE! I'm leaning toards the fact that GEO-IP Marketing catches the eye and increases click thrus therefore making you efforts and more effective and profitable.

12-09-2004, 02:09 PM	#2
sickkittens I am a meat popsicle. Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,100	It's both. But if the surfer really expects to see girls from his/her area, then he will cancel. __________________ HIGHEST PAYOUTS FOR NO-CONSOLE TOURS IN THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY! THIS SIG CAN BE YOURS FOR $200 - ICQ: 78881543

12-09-2004, 02:09 PM	#4
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	It definitely works although your geo database seems a little off. I'm about 100km away from Toronto but it definitely is close enough for a majority of the people out there. I have seen ones that can narrow it down even further and right down to where the IP address is located. Damn sweet stuff WG __________________ I play with Google.

12-09-2004, 02:12 PM	#6
SetTheWorldonFire Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 7,444	I'm against the quick buck. so my is it's deceptive unless you really find someone or provide girls in their area. __________________ www.STWOFDesign.com hit me up on icq 154206276 or Skype: JaimeGizzle

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12-09-2004, 02:09 PM	#3
FuckFind Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,188	i agree, pretty deceptive, just another gimic....will work though, targetting is always key. FF

12-09-2004, 02:11 PM	#5
O MARINA I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: internet Posts: 13,795	Works very well for sexsearch

12-09-2004, 02:13 PM	#8
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	J, Hit me up. I want this. __________________

12-09-2004, 02:18 PM	#9
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I just started experimenting with geo-ip marketing and it's amazing how many clicks I am getting from banners that previously got 1/3 the amount of clicks. DH

12-09-2004, 02:18 PM	#10
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	I think it's great marketing as long as you're pushing something that actually has girls in the surfers area. AdultFriendFinder is soooooo huge I can't see them not having girls at least withing 50 miles of anyone. Even if the Geo targeting is a bit off it should still at least grab the surfers atttention enough to click and check it out. Then once on the actual site the surfers city might actually be found. Geo I.P targeting sounds good to me

12-09-2004, 02:19 PM	#11
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	There is nothing misleading about the geo targetted ads... I always try to picture the mindset of a surfer that has just been surfing for hours looking for the right thing.. all the popups he's battling, etc etc.... everything looks the same after a while... till you see that in Anacortes there's some lesbians in a van looking for a third. It grabs your attention plain and simple... There's nowhere in the members areas anyway that give any hint as to where the model is from and who cares? It's no different than stating a false age of a model or whatever.

12-09-2004, 02:20 PM	#12
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Ummm Duh.... I think a hotter topic was how major affilaite programs topped off thegeo traffic from webmasters and made profits for themselves before ever considering an option for affilaites!!! Where is your sense of drama Styles? Some folks made huge huge cash off webmasters that had no clue about foriegn traffic potential. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 12-09-2004 at 02:22 PM..

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detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	too bad they are wrong for 50% of surfers or more

12-09-2004, 02:34 PM	#18
rml_bob Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 370	The Geo-IP targetting at AdultCashJunction actually shows the dating profile results from the viewers region making it more effective. Take a look for yourself: http://www.adultcashjunction.com/mar...tools/geo_ads/

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	It says MonterayPark to me. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	It proves the power of geomarketed ad's Ya wouldnt expect Styles to prove his point any other way than straight up __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

12-09-2004, 02:50 PM	#23
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	It's no more deceiving than the concepts used on reality sites. Bangbus isn't real. It's just good marketing. Geo-IP Marketing probably shouldn't be used in some places. In others it's fine and adds to the 'illusion' or fantasy you're trying to portray.

12-09-2004, 02:53 PM	#25
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	Geo targetting would be perfect for webcam sites.. The odds of the surfer finding a girl from his town are pretty good. As for regular porn sites I think it's useless. __________________ ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

12-09-2004, 03:05 PM	#29
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Go Jonathan!

12-09-2004, 03:15 PM	#33
Jamdin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,560	The ad says Wichita for me and I wouldn't date anybody from there. Kansas City has the hottest chicks

12-09-2004, 03:17 PM	#34
adamorgasm Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 21	one of the tests we ran did 98 profiles and 9 sales from a nongeotargeted ad that just said "find a fuck buddy in your area", the geotargeted version did 680 profiles and 39 sales if you want to use ads like these just ask Marina & she'll hook you up __________________ Adam SexSearch.com ICQ: 97336245 [email protected]

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AlexShark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 476	I am selling this script that makes banners like this: for 100$. Text, Background color, fonts and fonts colors, banner size are configurable. Requirements: php, mysql, gdlibraries I have the country database but you can purchase an additional city database here If you need custom programming / configuration on it let's talk 194649005 __________________ Last edited by AlexShark; 12-09-2004 at 03:24 PM..

12-09-2004, 03:43 PM	#43
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	I'm not a big fan of geoads for dating sites. Using these for a reality type site is one thing...the reality site is not selling the potential of meeting the girl. On dating sites the girl is the "product" that is being sold. Therefore, to show a picture of a girl that doesn't live in the area is false advertising. This would be the same as a store that only sells Sony & JVC t.v's placing ads that say "Get your Harmon Kardon T.V. here", when they don't sell the brand.

12-09-2004, 03:55 PM	#45
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Besides the Simpsons already inventing Geo-IP, Digital Envoy as their patent on it: AVn article: http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=107182 PR about their patent: http://www.crossbowventures.com/news...icle_116.shtml and lastly, the actual patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,757,740 It was approved On June 29,2004, but filed IN march 31, 2000. In order to invalidate the patent, you would have to be able to document use of geo-ip BEFORE March 31, 1999. If you were using geo-ip between Match 31, 1999 and March 31, 2000, then you could be safe from this patent as a "prior inventor", but not "prior art". Fight the Crap, Someone already patented it! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

12-09-2004, 04:19 PM	#47
gdog Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,550	Anybody tried the software these guys are offering for this http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolocati...ing?rId=google It looks like they are taking it to the next level and actually changing the ad depending on the country/region etc to match the user. So a user in china would see an ad in chinese not "these hot girls are in Beijing" the whole ad would be different. That to me is way more effective actually physically changing the contents of the page to match the surfers country. This was the summary: By being aware of users from different nationalities who speak different languages, and using the techniques outlined in this article, you can create truly global applications with minimum effort. G __________________ Busty Amateurs is Back - Meet the Girls \| Read the BLOG \| See the UPDATES High conversions and high retention, almost 1000 hosted galleries 995 PAYS Samples Big Boobs \| Busty Babes \| Strap Ons \| Hardcore \| Amateurs \| Videos Last edited by gdog; 12-09-2004 at 04:22 PM..