no shit, that was the perfect setup

Okay, I have to know what you mean by deceptions. Like maybe they don't stand a chance in hell of dating the chick in the picture?

This whole business is based on the deception that the surfer thinks "that could be me." Isn't that why we look at porn? To envision ourselves in the image for a few minutes.

How'bout Loans or mortgages?

How'bout realestate?

Purchacing a new car?

looking for a dentist?

Doctor?

Plumber?

I can think of an easy 20 or so business that would benefit by geo-targeting surfers

:winkwink:

I thought it was brilliant.

RRRed had no idea!

I didn't send her the graphic.

It was totally out of left field for her.

:)

We'll come out with some more

:thumbsup

a very good use

That deception is called FANTASY

more like the surfer deluding himself

:Graucho

Yeah, if I was running a yellow pages service, but for me personally, a pizza place or a dating site.

Agreed, but we are aiding and abetting if we are doing our job right.

Like I said, I wanted to know what he meant by not using it for deception. I honestly don't get where people are coming from when they say it is deceptive advertising.

eat me ya fuckers!

http://www.mrpheer.com/geo/direct.php

Is Xmatch your AFF co-brand?

Geo targeting.. wow. alot of stuff on this thread.... I know for ad's you can find a very simple yet powerful system called PHPadsnew, google it if you want to find something. I have been using this software on bondage.com for a long time now and works great..

for geo targeting your traffic to your site there are many applications, api's and front ends that are also avail. I developed one a few years back.

The thing really is to watch your traffic, when I mean by this use a stats program that shows geographical data.. you will be surprised that only about 40-60% of that traffic is coming from the US.. so if you really want to throw away 40% of your traffic then do nothing.. otherwise come up with a system that allows you to make money off of this foreign traffic.

anyhow rant off :)

I don't live in London, heaven forbid.

PHPadsnew is great tool.... I been using this for over 2 years, implemented it with many of my clients. This free software is one of the best php banner management system that includes geo targeting.

Install it on one of your page and you will be surprise to find out the % of north american traffic you really have on your site. Then once you find that out, target your traffic with proper ads or proper join pages with payment solution that will apply to that specific country and see yourself adding revenues to your company on the first month.

I know it's that easy cause I've seen it done more then once :thumbsup

Great business thread J$ :winkwink:

Awesome thread!!!!!

And great input across the board...

Jonathan ... looking fwd to seeing you in LV.....

Whitney

Your db is too specific for my IP, it shows the local suburb of my ISP rather than the city. I noticed that an AFF ad said the same thing. The suburb has about 10,000 people; the city has about 4 1/2 million. Which do you think would have a better hit rate? :)

The IP range is 203.8.12.0 if you want to check it out.

I hate everytime a banner like that comes up written S[] Paulo instead of São Paulo....

Thanks for the tip. I just went to their site, http://phpadsnew.com/two/ and I'm checking it out. Looks pretty sweet and I look forward to using it. All this information is more than appreciated.

The stuff that J$Styles is doing is cool stuff.. yes, people have been doing geo-ip for a while, but everyone has their own hook or way of doing it that makes it different.

The problem comes in when you have patent(s) that are broad, are broadly interpretted, and are broadly enforced.

To have a patent that maps an IP to a geographic location, would be the foundation patent that anyone who takes that mapping info and does something with it (ie serve up custom text, web page redirect, etc), could theoretically be targetted for a license.

It's like if someone had a patent for a car with 4 wheels, but you came up with a car with 4 wheels, but it had a jaccuzzi in the back, the patentee could then come after you to license their patent, claiming that without their invention, your invention wouldn't work.... or pull an Acacia, and target all the call dealerships that sold your version of a car.

It gets really murky in situations where a broad patent/idea can be enforced upon other patents that later improved on the patent to make it something new.

Most technology can be seen as common sense by those "skilled in the art", so therefore, the patent system is out of date with technology.

The idea of mapping an IP to a geographic location is broad and obvious. Doing something with that info is the innovation that pushes business and technology forward.

Having broad patents taxes businesses with licensing and stifles innovation.





Fight the Chick Patents!

To keep on topic to thread topic.. yes, geo-ip marketing is a great way to increase clicks and revenue.

Google took a license with Digital Envoy to be able to redirect people to the appropriate front page based on IP/country. They paid $8k/month for this technology.

Earlier this year, Digital Envoy and Google got into court issues where Digital Envoy saw that google was using the geo-up stuff to bring up advertising, which they felt wasn't covered under the licensing agreement, thus "losing" money on additional licensing while google was making millions.

see article here:
http://news.com.com/2100-1024_3-5200584.html

From the article, Digital Envoy is wanting a percentage of the ad revenue that was served up as a result of geo-ip targeting.

Google saw the value in geo-ip targeting of advertising, saw the application of the idea, and now Digital Envoy wants its cut.


Fight the Sticky Fingers!

AdultCashJunction.com has the feature you are looking for. The ads displayed are of real people from a visitors region looking for sex. This sells for itself!

png's are not cheesy ;-)

can you post a link to one that is setup?

This is the smartest geo ip script i've seen yet. Good job man! It always usually says I live in Los Angelas, which is not true at all. But understand it gets that from the lookup and the fact that my cable connection hops directly to LA's nap :P

oh, was trying it on a mac using safari, didn't show up at all, works on my PC although I get profiles with no pics.

ok here's mine :P

http://main.videopass.com/geoip/

I think it will work for a while.
The same way using first names in spam worked for a while to get attention. Then people gradually learn to tune out. But use it now!

Thank you for the compliment there. I like to think that seeing things in a bigger perspective comes natural when your business roots are European and you're living in North America like I do. Combine that with working both markets, and before you know it ideas on connecting markets start popping up.

Icq authorisation is pending!

:thumbsup

That's pretty cool. Probablly works wonders for dating site traffic and holiday sales - "we can ship to xxx before Dec 25th!" or "Looking for a guy in xxx for tonight"....

Nice!

That makes sense though.

It's not the DB that's too specific - your IP is "owned" by your ISP in that suburb and that's what it shows - and the net end result would add up to more clicks by people in your area because of the familiarity with that suburb.

would it get MORE clicks if it showed your exact city? propably so, but there's nothing we can do to get more accurate in your case ... because based on the Db it's 100% accurate.

:winkwink:

This is hot .. hit me up ASAP .. I want to get this up!

Thank you :)

We are proud that we have finally been able to bring this intelligent tool to market

:)

This product applies to ANY OFFER if you're a savy marketer, $pikes and I know the owners of http://WWW.SMASHBUCK.COM pretty well - and those are a couple of smart cats :winkwink:

BOTTOM LINE: More clicks = more sales!

Simplicity at it's finest!

:winkwink:

http://1akdtg041034lfr1sweja015069s....tarclassic.jpg

Follow me for a sec here, buddy:

Because our Geo Marketing Product produces images ... that doesn't limit any ability you have to utilize it to the MAX!

I've said this a few times already, and I'm sure I'll say it MANY MORE ... we are supposed to be the BEST MARKETERS IN THE WORLD, right?

Well if your ads have Geo Marketing messages, why can't your site?

Welcome to all surfers from "YOUR CITY" ... the SPECIAL OFFER FROM PORNSTAR CLASSIC TODAY IS a FREE DVD for EVERY NEW MEMBER!

CLICK HERE and BLAH BLAH BLAH ...

More clicks = more sales!

It's not deceptive at all and very useful for you to generate more visitors to your site.

Once they get there, of course it's STILL YOUR JOB TO SELL THEM, but now you can have more people to sell

:winkwink:

I'm in Toronto and his database pegs me as being in Kingston.

my penis is deceptive and increases mouse clicks in the female species.



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and GEO IP Marketing increased my click-through ratio 25%.



ride the wave and take advantage.................




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:1orglaugh

Nice, you got the head the exact suburb of the headoffice that provides my internet connection. They are pretty close to me, but in any event I think it is better to target major cities than suburbs no? If you would have said Sydney, rather than 'Ryde' I would of been more interested I think.

GeoMarketing can NEVER be 100% accurate ALL THE TIME.

There are a number of variables at play. The geo solution provider where you get your "database" from, who owns the IPs in what city (which ISP), whether or not you're surfing on proxies or AOL, etc.

We're looking at 70% - 80% accuracy with what we're providing presently.

That's HUGE when you takeinto consideration the following:

The fact of the matter is simply that surfers are somehow drawn to click when they see their city or something in their closely surrounding area ... THAT'S IT!

More clicks translates into more sales, yet again

:)!

LMFAO

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Excellent Jonathan .. The potential for dating sites amongst other ideas is delightful. Imagine meeting a hot woman in town and wanting to meet her again, but you saw her only in passing, especially with Xmas loneliness approaching for some.