AdultPlayersClub-New Program-Same Old Tricks
 

I saw the new AdultPlayersClub program splashed all over GFY..so, as I always do, I rushed on over to see if this just might be the "honest" program I am looking for. And don't get me wrong, I'm sure it is an "honest" program for webmasters...but if you are a consumer...watch out.

The same old tricks are all there.
A consumer signs up for 3 day trial membership. What could be better...3 days to try out the program, with no risk, right? Wrong! If you click on the Terms and Conditions link, go down 569 words (and we all know that IF the consumer even clicks on the T & C's, he's not going to read the first 569 words..he'll get bored, thinking it's the standard "you must be 18", images copyrighted ramble). Here's where you find the clause that the Trial Membership must be cancelled ONE DAY before end of trial to avoid rebill. Yep, the 3 day trial has magically changed to a 2 day trial.

Now, to make matters worse...a regular monthly membership is $29 a month..a rebilling membership is $39 a month.

But wait, there's more...

Look what we have here...the prechecked cross-sell. A free one day trial is listed. But, now I direct you back to the T & C's. No where does it tell you how to cancel this one day trial. Hopefully not one day before end of trial, or the consumer is really hooped.

And is one day 24 hours, or is it until end of day? Your guess is as good as mine..as this helpful bit of information doesn't seem to be available anywhere on the sign-up page.

So AdultPlayersClub, my hat comes off to you..the modern day rendition of the boiler room con artist. If you ever figure out how to sell an adult site without smoke and mirrors...give me a call. In fact, I'll buy you a round, in celebration of your entry into the world of "real" businessmen.

Well, thats a part of being able to pay 35 bucks per trial i guess.

drama?

Now youre in, yes.

Good God! Is your only purpose on GFY to bitch and complain and snitch about something...I've never seen a snitching muthafucka like you in my whole life..

All I have to do is a search on your name and 95% of your posts have something to do with snitching..

Start your own shit and then you can promote your own shit and then you can stop crying like a bitch all of the time.

Same as any other PPS program.

My sales have been great so far.

In response to the 2 posts above..YES, that is my only purpose. Thanks for asking.

And YES, that is the same as most PPS programs...Damn... I see where you are going with this. If the other programs do it as well, then this must be all right.
Wow, does that ever take a load off my mind! As long as the other programs also rip of the consumer, then everything is cool. Thanks for the revelation!

What he said

What he said

Is this new to you honestly?

Come on man you cant be this naiive.

and you wonder why surfers chargeback....

Dont get me wrong but snitching would imply that he is tattling or telling a person or body that would get them in some sort of trouble.
The info he posted was available to every webmaster including surfers. Sure they may not take the time to read it but he did and now he is showing the rest what he discovered.
Every big program out there overpaying for joins is pulling the shit anyway, its nothing new.

Is the title a little skewed for him to make his point? Yes...

But is he Snitching or calling it out like it is?


:glugglug

interesting...thanks for the info 49th

most likely, yes
no drama
this become a normal billing tactic in the adult industry

Nothing new.
And what are you talking about wrong and right. You're in adult. If you want to be all morally upstanding go work at burger king

and we can thank these great tactics for visa's new rules and stronghold on all site owners in todays market.
Hell if we keep it up, maybe they will evetually have to send a employee to hold our hands while we run our sites to make sure we arent fucking surfers the first chance we get

:winkwink:

shady

:1orglaugh and everyone screams about chargebacks and we should police ourselves before we are forced into new rules. Nothing like burning the candles at both ends and the wax will eventually run out, but as usual webmasters see here and now not into the future. Just cause its been juicy selling for the last 7-8 years I hope you dont think it will be another cakewalk for the next 7-8 years.

Ya its typical but it hurts everyone, you dumbfucks are just too damn blind to see and comprehend.:glugglug

*word*

Exactly but people couldn't care less.

Aparently it's okay to use shady shit unless someone is doing it against you.

I don't realy like those tactics as well.

I would not promote it. But most ppl want to see 35-40-45 per trial. Well this way they can afford it.

I prefer site like nastydollars, cleaner, and a HUGE memberarea. When you sell those memberships you will be pretty sure members will be happy and want to buy more porn one day

When they join a PPS program with all these prechecked, and terms about canceling etc etc, they will feel screwed, and might not buy porn again..

Just my :2 cents:

Andre

I think that more experienced webmasters will realize these tactics do not rebill and that there may be the need for some dicey math to get it all to work.

I'm one of those guys who will take a great site with a $14.95 revshare membership over any PPS program.

I'm sure it's a great program, but I don't do any PPS any more.

Imagine yourself ordering a book from Amazon and when you get it you discover that you also signed up for a yearly subscritpion of some fashion magazine and it cost 4 times more then the fucking book ..
Will you buy again ?
Will you complain for chargeback ?

Every time someone starts a non-specific thread about how it is time we stopped burning our own customers, cut the dubious billing practises and build sites with some decent content, it is hard to find a dissenting voice. Almost everyone is yeh, right, about time, etc., etc., etc.

But relate the same comments to a specific sponsor and suddenly it's time to dump on the messenger. I suppose it beats having to question one's own actions too much...

ofcourse you would be pissed but these dumbass webmasters only see the 35 bucks. ask yourself how good of a job and life do you have versus if online porn wasnt present. IDIOTS

Dude, this is a pretty sad attitude.

Seriously.

Yeah wait till they are on the Visa Breakout list.. APC isnt anything special, people will refund and chargeback ridiculous amounts, I guarantee it.

concur wholeheartedly, I see nothing special whatsoever

More you push those programs heavy the regulations and more problems we will get. Its so fucking clear. :helpme

All this "business" built on new customers caz there are still many of them everyday .. But why dont you give the chance to consumer maybe he likes the product and the service with the original price and will buy in other shop again ?... People buy less caz they get shitty product for tripled price ...
And after all from a simple calculation your traffic is scammed , you get a small % from it and you say wow what a great ratio when its really not that great at all!

Adult entertainment doesnt mean scam!
Its our business!

Those terms of service sound typical of most sponsors. All consumers should read what their obligations are for anything they buy...I know I do.

thanx alot for the informative post :thumbsup

please ya they are gonna read 21,000 characters? Ya fucking right

you have 2 options

1. promote them

2. don't promote them

ya but I dont have the option of the assfuckin we ALL get from visa with this bullshit they pull:321GFY

Best Point of the Entire Thread!!!

Why wouldn't anyone run their adult business like ANY other business? The Scammers and Fly by Nighters in mainstream....are exactly that....Fly by Nighters!

Do you want to be in the adult biz long term? If so, run it like you would ANY other biz....for the long term!!! :feels-hot

actually.. oxcash and bangbros use the same tactic...

They nearly all do it btw...

Yeah no doubt

[QUOTE]Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
actually.. oxcash and bangbros use the same tactic...

They nearly all do it btw... [/QUOTE
No they dont ..
They sell 2 sites for 35 usd while in this case you pay almost 80 usd and in case you dont you loose yourself in aggresive dialer shit .. and you cannot compare those websites caz oxcash is really more established .. Its not just APC offcourse ..