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BFT3K 10-14-2012 09:10 AM

Romney's China Position
 
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(this one's for you, MetaMan)

Tom_PM 10-14-2012 09:54 AM

"They've stolen our jobs".... ear candy for idiots.

seeandsee 10-14-2012 09:57 AM

He is hypocrite

Paul Markham 10-14-2012 10:07 AM

No wonder this guy didn't want his tax returns made public.

Palin was a fool, this one's worse.

Sly 10-14-2012 10:11 AM

Half $1 million, in three years, from an investment firm. He probably trades more than that every morning before he wakes up.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 10:13 AM

Blind trust


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A blind trust is a trust in which the fiduciaries, namely the trustees or those who have been given power of attorney, have full discretion over the assets, and the trust beneficiaries have no knowledge of the holdings of the trust and no right to intervene in their handling. Blind trusts are generally used when a settlor (sometimes called a trustor or donor) wishes to keep the beneficiary unaware of the specific assets in the trust, such as to avoid conflict of interest between the beneficiary and the investments. Politicians or others in sensitive positions often place their personal assets (including investment income) into blind trusts, to avoid public scrutiny and accusations of conflicts of interest when they direct government funds to the private sector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_trust

Rochard 10-14-2012 10:13 AM

Even better, Romney is investing in Chinese oil. Fucking brilliant.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...e-oil-company/

DudeRick 10-14-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Despite Criticisms, Obama's Investments Share Similarities with Romney's
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ys_650833.html

DudeRick 10-14-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Obama has investments in companies that ship jobs overseas

President Obama has accused Mitt Romney of raking in profits from investing in companies that ship American jobs overseas, but according to his most recent financial disclosure, he and First Lady Michelle Obama have hundreds of thousands of dollars in a mutual fund that has large holdings in corporations that outsource jobs.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-...rticle/2502361

Sly 10-14-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19250854)

Anyone that has any money in investments is going to be a part of this. I have a 401(k) and a Roth IRA, I really have no clue where the money is. I could be funding the next Somalian warlord for all I know.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 10:32 AM

Obama even outsourced your tax dollars! :disgust

Quote:

OBAMANOMICS OUTSOURCED

The Truth About How Obama Shipped The Recovery Overseas
http://www.streettalklive.com/off-th...vestments.html

Paul Markham 10-14-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19250832)
Half $1 million, in three years, from an investment firm. He probably trades more than that every morning before he wakes up.

The man trying t5o be the next President of the US. Investing in the people he proclaims have stolen US jobs, embezzled, partnered with Iran and stole US intellectual property, in your opinion a trifling matter? :upsidedow

What do you think he will do when he's President?

Sly 10-14-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19250879)
Investing in the people he proclaims have stolen US jobs, embezzled, partnered with Iran and stole US intellectual property, in your opinion a trifling matter? :upsidedow

As I said Paul, anyone with any sort of investment whatsoever, is going to have the same dirt on their hands.

There are plenty of things to rip this guy on, may as well use something of substance. This is like ripping on Bush for saying nuclear incorrectly.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 10:37 AM

Factcheck.org
Quote:

Obama?s ?Outsourcer? Overreach
The president's campaign fails to back up its claims that Romney 'shipped jobs' overseas.

http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-...cer-overreach/

MaDalton 10-14-2012 10:38 AM

i have invested in a few chinese funds - would be stupid not to do so since their economy will still grow heavily for the next 10-20 years.

Paul Markham 10-14-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19250883)
As I said Paul, anyone with any sort of investment whatsoever, is going to have the same dirt on their hands.

There are plenty of things to rip this guy on, may as well use something of substance. This is like ripping on Bush for saying nuclear incorrectly.

Anyone with any sort of investment is standing for President. This is just another nail in his coffin.

After all the other nails that have emerged, will you vote for him?

Bain
2 $trillion more on the military.
Relaxing rules on banking.
Sensata
Mormon.
Now this one.

Minte 10-14-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19250892)
Anyone with any sort of investment is standing for President. This is just another nail in his coffin.

After all the other nails that have emerged, will you vote for him?

Bain
2 $trillion more on the military.
Relaxing rules on banking.
Sensata
Mormon.
Now this one.

This is the system the world goes by. And the man knows how to make money.

Why is it that so many of you try to make that a bad thing.

DudeRick 10-14-2012 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=Paul Markham;19250879}

What do you think he will do when he's President?[/QUOTE]

He's gonna send Obama's death panel after your senile ass... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

L-Pink 10-14-2012 10:57 AM

What a fucking crock of shit this whole topic is!

Should he instead have invested his money in Kentucky Fried Chicken? That's about as American as you can get right? A white southern gentleman dressed in a white plantation suit selling chicken. But wait ? it's share price is rising because it opens 2-3 outlets a day in China.

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Sly 10-14-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19250892)
Anyone with any sort of investment is standing for President. This is just another nail in his coffin.

After all the other nails that have emerged, will you vote for him?

Bain
2 $trillion more on the military.
Relaxing rules on banking.
Sensata
Mormon.
Now this one.

I'm going to vote for him now just because of this thread proving to me how many people don't understand how money works. Thank you for enlightening me.

2012 10-14-2012 12:17 PM

I'm voting for both candidates just in case :2 cents:

Rochard 10-14-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19250873)
I could be funding the next Somalian warlord for all I know.

Romney is funding Somalian warlords?

Paul Markham 10-14-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19250910)
This is the system the world goes by. And the man knows how to make money.

Why is it that so many of you try to make that a bad thing.

Will the way he makes money for himself, work for the rest of the people who live there? Excluding a few of his pals.

crockett 10-14-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19250910)
This is the system the world goes by. And the man knows how to make money.

Why is it that so many of you try to make that a bad thing.

Because the way he makes money is not by producing something that creates jobs, but rather by leeching off the work of others and then sending those jobs over seas.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Minte 10-14-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19251215)
Because the way he makes money is not by producing something that creates jobs, but rather by leeching off the work of others and then sending those jobs over seas.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Are you so sure about that. This is just a few of the businesses that Bain has funded.


1-800-Dentist

Appriss

Bright
Horizons

BTI
Systems

Dynamics

E5
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EcoSense

EDGAR
Online

Enclarity

Enservio

Eschelon
Telecom

Experian
Corporation

eXperticity

Formation
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Gartner
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HookLogic

INRIX

Integrated
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Invoke
Solutions

iPay
Technologies

Kiva
Systems

LinkedIn

LogicSource

m-Qube

MagazineRadar

MyEdu

Nomis
Solutions

PGOA
Media

Regulatory
DataCorp

Soleil
Securities

SquareTrade

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SurveyMonkey

Taleo

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The Receivables
Exchange

Total Attorneys

TRAVELCLICK

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Wharton
Econometrics

Minte 10-16-2012 04:20 PM

Do we need to find more companies that Bain funded that do produce jobs? And a lot of them.

DudeRick 10-16-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19251215)
Because the way he makes money is not by producing something that creates jobs, but rather by leeching off the work of others and then sending those jobs over seas.

Is it really that hard to figure out?

Pure Democrat Bullshit!

Quote:

The companies Bain Capital funded under Romney have created tens of thousands of jobs using any measure.
http://www.american.com/archive/2012...create-at-bain

pornguy 10-16-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19250829)
No wonder this guy didn't want his tax returns made public.

Palin was a fool, this one's worse.

Next to this guy Palin is a rocket scientist with a great body.

Brad Mitchell 10-16-2012 05:26 PM

I think most of the US stock market is over inflated BS and about 2/3 of my 401k is overseas growth mutual funds. Mutual funds are very diverse by their nature and the farthest thing from investing specifically in any one company.. I'm just sayin'

Brad

epitome 10-16-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 19250835)
Blind trust


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A blind trust is a trust in which the fiduciaries, namely the trustees or those who have been given power of attorney, have full discretion over the assets, and the trust beneficiaries have no knowledge of the holdings of the trust and no right to intervene in their handling. Blind trusts are generally used when a settlor (sometimes called a trustor or donor) wishes to keep the beneficiary unaware of the specific assets in the trust, such as to avoid conflict of interest between the beneficiary and the investments. Politicians or others in sensitive positions often place their personal assets (including investment income) into blind trusts, to avoid public scrutiny and accusations of conflicts of interest when they direct government funds to the private sector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_trust

Except his blind trust is ran by his friend and personal lawyer. How blind do you really think that is?

Rochard 10-16-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19256164)
Do we need to find more companies that Bain funded that do produce jobs? And a lot of them.

You forgot Ampad. Went bankrupt while Bain made over $100 million.

Paul Markham 10-17-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19256164)
Do we need to find more companies that Bain funded that do produce jobs? And a lot of them.

Absolutely. How will putting a lot of people out of work, by cutting spending, achieve that?

Minte 10-17-2012 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19256878)
Absolutely. How will putting a lot of people out of work, by cutting spending, achieve that?

Paul, you have said this at least 20 times in this election cycle.

And you continue to use the word SPEND in place of the word WASTE. Until the time comes that you look at those two words, we have nothing more to discuss.

I have also said at least 20 times in this election cycle.

You can't continue to spend more than you make.

dodger21 10-17-2012 06:43 AM

Theres just no aguing facts with some of you idiots who are so emotionally invested in your mythical man. Facts and logic dont matter.

It's like that old adage goes...if you want to piss off a republican, tell him a lie. If you want to piss off a democrat, tell him the truth.

Paul Markham 10-17-2012 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19257249)
Paul, you have said this at least 20 times in this election cycle.

And you continue to use the word SPEND in place of the word WASTE. Until the time comes that you look at those two words, we have nothing more to discuss.

Illustrate how the money is wasted.

Quote:

I have also said at least 20 times in this election cycle.

You can't continue to spend more than you make.
And I agree with you. Are YOU ready for the pain it will cause?

If a family is spending more than they earn. There comes a time it HAS TO STOP. Then the family has to buy less, live on less and face a far lower standard of living. With countries facing bad debt situations, that has meant everyone except the super rich earning less and paying more at the shops. Are you ready for that?

Because spending cuts will hurt you.

I think spending on arms, food, oil subsidies to private buyers should stop. The money should be put into long term projects of tomorrow so we can have the Next Apple, Microsoft, Space Shuttle and all the other great scientific, engineering and technical discoveries of tomorrow.

Romney doesn't think more teachers are good, thinks business will develop those skills and thinks he can level the playing field between the US and China.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1327413.html

Quote:

Since 2001, the United States has lost 2.8 million manufacturing jobs to China -- that despite U.S. factory workers being far more productive.

Partly, it can be explained by China's cheaper workers: The average hourly wage for Chinese manufacturing workers is less than a tenth that of their average U.S. counterparts, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
And that's just China.

Now tell us how Vietnam got to be your biggest customer. Where did the money come from?

stephane76 10-17-2012 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 19256265)
I think most of the US stock market is over inflated BS and about 2/3 of my 401k is overseas growth mutual funds. Mutual funds are very diverse by their nature and the farthest thing from investing specifically in any one company.. I'm just sayin'

Brad

:2 cents: :thumbsup

sperbonzo 10-17-2012 07:41 AM

(I guess I shouldn't mention that Romney is actually correct in saying that China is manipulating their currency value artifically in a way that is bad for US manufacturing....)







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Minte 10-17-2012 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19257296)
Illustrate how the money is wasted.



And I agree with you. Are YOU ready for the pain it will cause?

If a family is spending more than they earn. There comes a time it HAS TO STOP. Then the family has to buy less, live on less and face a far lower standard of living. With countries facing bad debt situations, that has meant everyone except the super rich earning less and paying more at the shops. Are you ready for that?

Because spending cuts will hurt you.

I think spending on arms, food, oil subsidies to private buyers should stop. The money should be put into long term projects of tomorrow so we can have the Next Apple, Microsoft, Space Shuttle and all the other great scientific, engineering and technical discoveries of tomorrow.

Romney doesn't think more teachers are good, thinks business will develop those skills and thinks he can level the playing field between the US and China.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1327413.html



And that's just China.

Now tell us how Vietnam got to be your biggest customer. Where did the money come from?

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...e-numbers-2012
THere is a lot of information there for you to read. Rather than me cutting and pasting it all.


You asked the question if I am ready. The answer is yes. I could've retired years ago. My assets far exceed my debt. My children could live their lives and never work and if they weren't stupid about it, their children could do the same. But not working is not an option. I enjoy my job and now have one of my children here and 3 nephews. The goal is to make it interesting for them to grow. Btw. All of them to date have college degrees, before they took a job with us.

The federal government of Vietnam is not our biggest customer. They are our metals division biggest customer. Our biggest customer is our agricultural tire company which we own.

I went to school and the average class size was around 30 kids. Today, it's supposed to be many less. I think the quality of my education was on par with what is being taught today. Why do we need 50% more teachers to teach the same amount of students? And keep in mind, when I went to school computers didn't exist. There were no online classes. Teachers for the most part actually earned their salaries.

Paul Markham 10-17-2012 07:50 AM

This is the situation today and the problem the West faces.

Quote:

Since 2001, the United States has lost 2.8 million manufacturing jobs to China -- that despite U.S. factory workers being far more productive.

Partly, it can be explained by China's cheaper workers: The average hourly wage for Chinese manufacturing workers is less than a tenth that of their average U.S. counterparts, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
And that is just China. US workers maybe more productive, not by a factor of 10. So what's the solution?

We could tax the goods coming in at the docks and this tax will pay for the loss of jobs and the investment in the future of the West. This will mean people paying a lot more for an iPad, calculator, shirt, toys, etc. In the shops.

Import restrictions. Tough one, China will not like it.

People pay more in taxes today for investment in future technologies.

Banning the import of goods that were under US/EU patent or copyright protection, isn't going to stem the flow much.

Getting China to revalue it's currency to level the field. Also is a pipe dream. You can't revalue the Chinese, Vietnamese, Philippines, Indian, etc currencies to the level required. Only a fool would offer or think it would work.

Anyone with a better solution is welcome to put them forward. cutting spending = cutting jobs. Cutting taxes 10% won't bring 2.8 million jobs back to the US or the EU. It will result in a loss of jobs or more debt.

Paul Markham 10-17-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19257381)
(I guess I shouldn't mention that Romney is actually correct in saying that China is manipulating their currency value artifically in a way that is bad for US manufacturing....).

Yes he said it. As if it would level the playing field. The guy is deluded it's going to make that much difference.


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