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Paul Markham 04-06-2012 01:00 AM

Why I am so disappointed in the way this industry moved..
 
I got an inquiry recently for Content. Here are the emails we exchanged.

1st
Quote:

Hi my name is JD. I'm looking for exclusive Asian glamour for my site. It's difficult to find. Can you help?
My reply
Quote:

From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: Re: Asian glamour
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 08:08:00 +0200

Hi JD, it all comes down to what you will pay for it.

give me your rates.
His reply without the price he would like to pay.
Quote:

Well I'm looking for high quality young and cute asian girls. Met Art style.
My budget is open based on the quality, but ideally I'd like to stay at 3 sets with video for $???????????
Take a guess what he wants to pay and think of it from my POV.

Don't dismiss it with "He's an idiot." Because it shows many people's POV of the product we all try to sell today. Are we responsible in part for that?

I will show you me reply later, post what you think his offer was.

JFK 04-06-2012 01:04 AM

Cant wait to hear this one:thumbsup

papill0n 04-06-2012 01:06 AM

yes paul you are right

Paul Markham 04-06-2012 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18869834)
Cant wait to hear this one:thumbsup

It will make many chuckle.

Truth is the content he requires is available, nearly all things are possible. If you have the money.

TubeSubmitters 04-06-2012 01:37 AM

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DamianJ 04-06-2012 01:52 AM

Why would someone contact a retired teen photographer to shoot met art style asian girls? You couldn't shoot that style if your life depended on it.

This whole thing is just another lie.

Post proof of the emails, with headers, or it's just more Markham bullshit.

At least make the lie credible man.

Cherry7 04-06-2012 02:01 AM

620+ VIDEOS + 2300+ IMAGE SETS $3,000 BLOW OUT.


So three sets would cost ($3000/2300) x 3 = $4

AllAboutCams 04-06-2012 02:19 AM

$10 am i right

EddyTheDog 04-06-2012 02:49 AM

I guess he has no idea of what 'exclusive' is if he says less than a few K. It would be ez to see 'exclusive' as meaning HQ.

Not everyone has been around as long as you Paul :)...

Slappin Fish 04-06-2012 03:04 AM

Cool story bro.

lazycash 04-06-2012 03:11 AM

Come on man, you just got back.

19teenporn 04-06-2012 03:32 AM

Just leave man. Nobody cares about your opinion.

Nobody.

ottopottomouse 04-06-2012 04:14 AM

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DWB 04-06-2012 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18869891)
Why would someone contact a retired teen photographer to shoot met art style asian girls? You couldn't shoot that style if your life depended on it.

This whole thing is just another lie.

Post proof of the emails, with headers, or it's just more Markham bullshit.

At least make the lie credible man.

You'd be surprised the type of emails you get as a content producer. Most of them wanting content that has nothing to do with anything you've ever shot before.

I believe Paul on this one based on my own experiences with people probing for content.

MaDalton 04-06-2012 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18870016)
You'd be surprised the type of emails you get as a content producer. Most of them wanting content that has nothing to do with anything you've ever shot before.

I believe Paul on this one based on my own experiences with people probing for content.

i have to agree...

i get people asking me for custom ebony and asian content, even if my site clearly says located in Czech Republic and is 99.8% full of eastern european girls :upsidedow

TrashyContent 04-06-2012 05:32 AM

Hmmm...
 
Did someone say content thread...

Yeah every one plays the "how much you want, how much you want to pay" game... why say how much you want to pay when the guy might do it cheaper... To me it's the content buyers responsibility to spec the job and come up with "THE PRICE"

Where does "What your willing to pay for it" come from ? Your the one playing the GAME Paul... he's told you what he wants, tell him how much it will cost, no ? You hoping he's going to say more than you want (UNLIKELY) all you've achieved by not telling him, is giving yourself the chance to come on here to moan your ass off about it... and bore the fuck out of everyone else !

Winning hey Paul ? You really are CHarlie Sheen ! :disgust

Fletch XXX 04-06-2012 05:36 AM

$400 a set

L-Pink 04-06-2012 05:44 AM

I'm disappointed you're back.

.

Supz 04-06-2012 08:02 AM

because you are a senior citizen.

Best-In-BC 04-06-2012 08:08 AM

Another Paul Thread, Yeah!

globofun 04-06-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18869833)
Take a guess what he wants to pay and think of it from my POV.

http://benr75.com/images/206_million_dollars.jpg

206 Million US Dollars

JosephFM 04-06-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrashyContent (Post 18870066)
Did someone say content thread...

Yeah every one plays the "how much you want, how much you want to pay" game... why say how much you want to pay when the guy might do it cheaper... To me it's the content buyers responsibility to spec the job and come up with "THE PRICE"

Where does "What your willing to pay for it" come from ? Your the one playing the GAME Paul... he's told you what he wants, tell him how much it will cost, no ? You hoping he's going to say more than you want (UNLIKELY) all you've achieved by not telling him, is giving yourself the chance to come on here to moan your ass off about it... and bore the fuck out of everyone else !

Winning hey Paul ? You really are CHarlie Sheen ! :disgust

I hate that "What are you willing to pay for it?" bullshit. You are the content producer, tell him how much it will cost and if he agrees good and if not, oh well.

billywatson 04-06-2012 12:38 PM

Every single time I even take 15 seconds to reply to someone looking for content, their budget never comes close to the cost it takes to actually produce it...let alone pay myself anything.

That's why I quit talking to dudes like these in 2003.

Fat Panda 04-06-2012 12:39 PM

ban this fucking idiot for good

ninavain 04-06-2012 12:43 PM

I don't even shoot exclusive anymore..it's a waste of time to even discuss..like this thread

Coup 04-06-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18869835)
yes paul you are right

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18869891)
Why would someone contact a retired teen photographer to shoot met art style asian girls? You couldn't shoot that style if your life depended on it.

This whole thing is just another lie.

Post proof of the emails, with headers, or it's just more Markham bullshit.

At least make the lie credible man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18869901)
620+ VIDEOS + 2300+ IMAGE SETS $3,000 BLOW OUT.


So three sets would cost ($3000/2300) x 3 = $4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 18869942)
Cool story bro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18869948)
Come on man, you just got back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 18869960)
Just leave man. Nobody cares about your opinion.

Nobody.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18869990)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18870084)
I'm disappointed you're back.

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 18870265)
because you are a senior citizen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 18870279)
Another Paul Thread, Yeah!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 18870759)
ban this fucking idiot for good

All this, and much.. much more :2 cents:

Radical Bucks 04-06-2012 12:51 PM

Content production and cost:

1) The models are now expecting much higher rates
2) The adult talent agents condone these outrageous rates
3) Too many programs pay the models way too much making it tougher for smaller and or up coming programs to hire and producer content.

Locations, misc expenses come into play as well which ad up real fast. If we stop paying the models $2,000 per shoot then maybe it will not be so damn hard to be able to produce content at a reasonable price for smaller programs.

Paul Markham 04-06-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18870023)
i have to agree...

i get people asking me for custom ebony and asian content, even if my site clearly says located in Czech Republic and is 99.8% full of eastern european girls :upsidedow

Damian seems to know what inquiries content providers get. Is there no end to the man's vanity and egotistical thinking?

globofun 04-06-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18870805)
Damian seems to know what inquiries content providers get. Is there no end to the man's vanity and egotistical thinking?

So, how much old man?

V_RocKs 04-06-2012 01:24 PM

Welcome back

venus 04-06-2012 01:58 PM

same here, when someone pulls that on me I walk away. Its your business, tell me how much and I will decide if its worth it to me. You know what you want for it so don't play games, do business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephFM (Post 18870751)
I hate that "What are you willing to pay for it?" bullshit. You are the content producer, tell him how much it will cost and if he agrees good and if not, oh well.


Rochard 04-06-2012 02:14 PM

Paul doens't know Jack shit about the industry. He's a photographer. That's like saying someone knows about cars because they change a flat tire. Anyone can take pictures.

DeanCapture 04-06-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18870876)
Paul doens't know Jack shit about the industry. He's a photographer.

Anyone can take pictures.

http://deancapture.com/pics/monkey_camera.jpeg

alias 04-06-2012 02:49 PM

Please tell us more.

Brujah 04-06-2012 03:46 PM

I wouldn't have even bothered to reply to an email that contained this:

"Hi JD, it all comes down to what you will pay for it."

Quit playing games and just come out with it. What do you have available, and what does it cost?

papill0n 04-06-2012 03:56 PM

this is what paul does


in his own mind he has taken page of insults and substituted it with us begging for his knowledge

DWB 04-06-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 18870756)
Every single time I even take 15 seconds to reply to someone looking for content, their budget never comes close to the cost it takes to actually produce it...let alone pay myself anything.

That's why I quit talking to dudes like these in 2003.

QFT!!!!!!

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

DWB 04-06-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 18870923)

That's what your friends think you do. :1orglaugh

livexxx 04-06-2012 04:04 PM

idiot is as idiot does

429mg 04-06-2012 04:10 PM

Probably not much. If you ask him what he wants to pay, you can expect a low offer. You are the seller, you name your price.


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