To iBill or not to iBill... That is the Question!
 

Right away you are going to think rep for iBill - Not the case, however I do have a connection with them. If everyone (this means you) did their due diligence and took a look at the situation, they would see that iBill could have declared bankruptcy. Instead, Interactive Brand Development Inc. (IBDI) bought iBill and took the blame, the shame, and the DEBT ($41,600,000.00). The new iBill is doing it's best to compensate people who had loses. And to a lot of you out there the taste in your mouth is far more than bitter. But you have to understand that in good faith, IBDI wanted to right iBill's wrongs, and reattain the clients who used to believe in their services. I know I'm going to get a lot of Fuck You's for this post, and that's fine. But everyone is given a fair share here, and even though this is my first post, I hope you will all respectfully read what I said and not become hostile. For the record, iBill has scheduled pay-outs for clients who are owed money. So for all you non-believers, keep not believing - but when your check comes your tune might change, and then everyone will see that iBill is back, and this time it is for real.
Please check out this article for more info on IBDI and iBill:

http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=76967

Never Use Ibill, Ever - Repeat After Me

anyone thinking about using ibill do this 1st

go to your bank, safe, what ever.

withdrawl a large sum

get into your car, get to about 60-70 mph

throw said large sum out open car window

repeat if ness

fuck ibill.

ibill is no my business but threads like this one make me wonder sometimes where did all money go that are owed to people.

Any program that uses you will have a fight to get affiliates. Why bother as long as there are alternatives?

PS saying you are going to pay every 6 months or so, is not the same as actually sending the cash. Just a heads up.

Saying one thing and really being another?
 

Free Porn? Does it exist for real... In my mind there is no such thing. But have at it if you want. You have to understand, the only people who know where all that money went is the old owners. With the GKard, and the new lock box payment system, iBill never even sees your money. We get a check just like you do.

Ibill is a bad company that I would never do business with again. If they were honest from the start and didn't jerk people around things would be a little different. Anybody can understand problems but being lied to is the end of any relationship.

Who Lied?
 

iBill and IBDI hasn't lied. The old iBill might have, but that's not for me to say. And do you honestly think a company like IBDI would associate itself with something that would ruin their rep?

i heard an awesome story about how one program owner got his money from them.

im not at liberty to tell anyone here...but man oh man was that ever a great story

look for repeats next time they show up

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :disgust

Originally Posted by 4TheMoney
...iBill never even sees your money. We get a check just like you do.

If you are referring to "WE" in that statement and trying to associate me as an employee, you could be wrong - other people receive checks too you know. You know the old saying - ASS-U-ME

4TheMoney, go lick Skufty's balls.

If you don't want people to make natural assumptions, then please refrain from inferring such with comments such as the one you made above. I'm not the only person who would assume such.

Then again he COULD be right

Ibill is a piece of shit and their leadership should be in prison. They are scammer scum. They stole millions from people all around the world.

"she". :winkwink:

Does iBill owe you money?
 

If iBill owes you money, get it. If they don't, stop bitching. Would you have been happier with a bankruptcy, no glimmer of a chance of getting paid, and them just changing names and corporate sponsor?

No This Is Not The Question

dude go fuck yourself

no one here wants to listen to any ibill bullshit.

we all know not to trust those scamming fucks ever again.

I'd like to take a moment and thank 4themoney for keeping these threads bumped and helping to keep iBill's continued criminality in the front page spotlight where it belongs.


SilentKnight

If iBill owes you money, get it. If they don't, stop bitching. Would you have been happier with a bankruptcy, no glimmer of a chance of getting paid, and them just changing names and corporate sponsor?

You should allow people that have been stolen from and lied to the right to bitch. If Ibill is going to pay all the debts, then I think you have nothing to worry about. I predict a 95% reduction in bitching, when the debts have been paid.

Getting the money is the big question now isn't it.

Just a heads up but pointing out that iBill's new system does not allow them to steal the money is not that encouraging.

Again...what's the difference between bankruptcy and buy-out to a webmaster who's never been paid?

(tapping foot)


SilentKnight

Are you a shareholder?

If everybody got their payments tomorrow morning, I'd do business with them again, other wise, they can just go fuck themselves with all that blackmail

The problem is that people don't know how much they are owed. Yes I got paid by Inteca and still get paid for rebills by Ibill/Symmentrix but I really have no clue how much I am really owned. You accounting really sucks...

IBDI, whoever they're, did just that on the adult side, imho.

do you honestly think you(ibill) can attract new customers and get back old ones in the industry where "ibill" as a brand name has screwed up on so many levels without making it right first?

are you at least trying to get stolen money from "old owners"? heads up on this question would be nice.

wouldn't be logical to pay first whats owed then talk about biz?

I'm just an observer, but i'm sure people here would like to hear some constructive anwsers and see more threads like "ibill has payed me back in full", then you might be on to something positive.

There is no "new iBill", ownership remains the same. So the same people who owned iBill then, own it now. Stock moving back and forth doesn't change that. Bankruptcy was never an option, but not because iBill cared about the people they owed money to.

I balls died on September 2004 you will never convince enough people to sign up again so just shut the fuck up and pay out the monies owed. Oh and include the web 900 cash if you want to gain some brownie points .

Iball's has a 7 year history of lies deceit and mismanagement there is no reason why that will change. Get out of the business or Pay your debts now you have had 9 months!

You don't know how much your owed... Who's accounting sucks???

exactly, this guys an employee or so. Remember the guy who posted here I posted too, he icqd me and then a flood of complaints came on the boards, someone emailed him and he got a 'doesnt work here anymore' email back

lol that was in like 3 days time...

dont think this went as well as he wanted :2 cents:

You are really clueless...

These new names that post from time to time are obviously newbies at Iball's who have been fed the normal line of shit Iball's is famous for. They come on GFY all loud and defiant only to disappear into obscurity within a few days. Every time one of these Mickey Dee rejects posts it shoots another nail in Iball's coffin

Anyone still using Iball's needs to get out now, the writing is on the wall as it was in 2004, don't say you haven't been warned. Get out and cut your losses before you lose everything. These recent post defending Iball's are a cry of desperation!!!

This company should be indicted by a Federal court. They are thieving scum. I seriously can't believe they are not in prison.

Oh that is so funny. Like it's that easy. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Someone who purchases a business may take on its debts or not. If he does not, or does but fails to settle them promptly, he is taking advantage of the mess that the original owner created and doing so at the expense of the creditors. That ultimately those creditors may be paid in part or in full, when otherwise they might not have been, does not make the new owner smell any better. A business which acts unethically on day one is not a business that I want anything to do with.

This industry is riddled with unethical behavior. Each time we condone such behavior, we encourage it.

And the Saga Continues...
 

If your dog shits on the floor, do you forgive him? Do you ask him to pick it up? Would you pick it up if he does it again? People need to learn that things happen, some things can't be changed, others can be improved. If you are a narrow minded person that thinks everything around you doesn't evolve minute by minute, day by day, then you need to wake up. I will not defend iBill for what is done, I will say however if you don't look toward the future, espescially with the internet being a forward thinking entity, then you probably have no hope for your future. iBill at least can hold it's head up high knowing that the dog shit on the floor, and they cleaned it up, and are still dealing with the stain.