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tonymalice 10-13-2003 10:11 AM

J.M. Productions to Pursue Copyright Infringement Action against AdultBouncer.com
 
J.M. Productions to Pursue Copyright Infringement Action against AdultBouncer.com

J.M. Productions (?J.M.?) has ascertained that AdultBouncer.com, a popular adult verification system that provides its affiliates with adult content, billing, and hosting services, has been unlawfully distributing unlicensed J.M. content to its affiliates. J.M. has demanded that Adultbouncer.com cease and desist from all further infringement. Adultbouncer.com?s actions are in clear violation of US Copyright law as would be the actions of any individual or entity who distributes any J.M. content without the prior express written consent of J.M. J.M. has not licensed any of its video content for Internet use.

J.M. is seeking to contact webmasters and affiliates of AdultBouncer.com who may have acquired J.M. content for use on their websites. By immediately removing any and all J.M content and by contacting J.M. to provide assistance in the ongoing investigation of AdultBouncer.com, webmasters may avoid being named in J.M.?s upcoming lawsuit against AdultBouncer.com and its principals.

J.M. is currently aware of the following titles that AdultBouncer.com has made available to its affiliates: Assy 6, Gag Factor 5, The Violation of Aurora Snow, The Violation of Briana Banks, The Violation of Katie Gold, The Violation of Kiki Daire, and Perverted Stories 34-36.

J.M. strongly urges webmasters who are using content from these or any other J.M. titles to remove them immediately, and contact J.M. at 818-772-1320 or via e-mail at [email protected]. J.M. Productions notes that these webmasters are also being victimized and exposed to liability by AdultBouncer.com, who has illegally provided them with our content under the guise of a valid licensing agreement. Again, by contacting J.M. Productions and providing them assistance in this matter, webmasters may seek to avoid costly fines, penalties, and reparations associated with copyright infringement.

J.M. Productions will pursue this matter to the full extent of the law, and will continue to diligently and aggressive pursue any and all future infringers in order to protect its copyrights.

Mutt 10-13-2003 10:14 AM

HALLE FUCKIN LUJAH!!!!!

and the wagons will continue to circle.

Tony hit me up at [email protected]

hyatla 10-13-2003 10:16 AM

I am adultbouncer's affiliate, will I be in trouble?

JSA Matt 10-13-2003 10:17 AM

AdultBouncer is the largest collection of stolen content anywhere :)

Suckitbitch 10-13-2003 10:22 AM

LONG LIVE GAG FACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.jerkoffzone.com/boxcoversdvd/gf5dvd_big.jpg



Clean those fucking punks out.

Mutt 10-13-2003 10:23 AM

I told people it was going to happen and slowly but surely the sleeping giants of the Los Angeles XXX movie industry are awakening. And there's a content broker out there that better get its house in order as well.

BRISK 10-13-2003 10:27 AM

What took so long for them to finally take legal action?

cath 10-13-2003 10:29 AM

About time :thumbsup

gin 10-13-2003 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tonymalice

J.M. strongly urges webmasters who are using content from these or any other J.M. titles to remove them immediately, and contact J.M. at 818-772-1320 or via e-mail at [email protected].

:1orglaugh i would of picked a different email.. im sure the judge will love that one

Muff 10-13-2003 10:36 AM

I had a feeling Mutt would be first to hit this post. :)

BRISK 10-13-2003 10:45 AM

It's not just adultbouncer using the content illegally, a few months ago someone tried to sell me video content that was obviously ripped from the American Bukkake series.

Mutt 10-13-2003 10:53 AM

AdultBouncer ain't the only one, just the biggest and there are now AB clones popping up all over.

Sad thing is that so many webmasters who become affiliates of the big movie AVS systems really believe they have a legal license because that's what they've been told. NO WEB LICENSE ANYWHERE gives a licensee the right to trade the licensed content in return for any financial consideration, traffic or anything. It's standard in all web licenses, you are licensed only to use that content on domains you own and operate.

AB can buy their way out of any lawsuit, that's how much money they've made off their thievery. But that's not the case for their affiliates.

RedBumper 10-13-2003 10:55 AM

Let me get this straight...... the content adultbouncer and deluxepass offers his webmasters for free to download (i mean the content from their own content system) is illegal? Really?

FreeHugeMovies 10-13-2003 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedBumper
Let me get this straight...... the content adultbouncer and deluxepass offers his webmasters for free to download (i mean the content from their own content system) is illegal? Really?
No it is 100% LEGAL.

RedBumper 10-13-2003 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies


No it is 100% LEGAL.

Then what's this all about?

playa 10-13-2003 11:01 AM

Hmm less free Porn,

i like this idea

AdultWebGraphics 10-13-2003 11:05 AM

hahahahaha :thumbsup

I hope those AB fucks get whats coming to them, Stupid asses owe me a couple thousands dollars for designs.

lucky482 10-13-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
.....NO WEB LICENSE ANYWHERE gives a licensee the right to trade the licensed content in return for any financial consideration, traffic or anything.....
Well my license from my content broker allows me to trade/give out promotional clips for affiliates/traffic trades as long as it's 10 sec or shorter and has my domain watermarked. I think that is O.K.

BTW Mutt, which content broker are you talking about that needs to get their act together? Just want to know for future reference.

Thanks

Fletch XXX 10-13-2003 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt


Sad thing is that so many webmasters who become affiliates of the big movie AVS systems really believe they have a legal license because that's what they've been told.

I see it all the time.

set up a movie mgp and create a member section of STOLEN movies.

these guys think their 'movie archives' are legit, when its simply DVDs that the AVS does NOT have license to.

Anyone recall the name of their 'toon archive?'

Mutt 10-13-2003 11:18 AM

well sure if your specific license covers that kind of usage you're fine. most content providers are happy to negotiate all kinds of uses including print, free content for affiliates, hosted gallery usage - it's the scumbags who decide they will interpret a license any way they see fit whose asses will be in a sling.

this shit has been done since the beginning of this business - anybody remember a leased plugin called PersonalPorn?

there's a very long thread on GFY i think started by FletchXXX about hosted galleries with licensed content.

Mutt 10-13-2003 11:22 AM

This is the toon archive i always post to show what AdultBouncer is, was and has always been about.

http://www.hentaivids.com

40 gigs of stolen content that AB knows about, has always known about and its this high quality stolen content multiplied by thousands which built Adult Bouncer into a 60,000 recurring members force.

LadyMischief 10-13-2003 11:26 AM

This should be a wakeup call to those who think it won't matter or they'll never be caught. Under US law, prosecuted to the full extent, even copyrighted IMAGES can carry a fine of $100,000 PER INFRINGEMENT (meaning every incidence of the image is a seperate infringement), as well as some heavy jail time. It's a FEDERAL OFFENCE, not just a joke, and although I don't know Adultbouncer, I don't envy their position right now.. Or those of any affiliates who don't take this lawsuit seriously. They are in violation of copyright as well, whether they know it or not, and ignorance is *NOT* an acceptable excuse in court. Period.

Oh, and if anyone wants a good scare, movies can be prosecuted (and have been in the past) as a SERIES of images, not just one entire thing. That brings the costs of infringement into the astronomical range. Definitely don't envy anyone on the recieving end of that one.. Yikes.

Project-Shadow 10-13-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
This is the toon archive i always post to show what AdultBouncer is, was and has always been about.

http://www.hentaivids.com

40 gigs of stolen content that AB knows about, has always known about and its this high quality stolen content multiplied by thousands which built Adult Bouncer into a 60,000 recurring members force.

0.o
Umm don't know if it makes a difference, but hentaivids is with AbBilling not Adultbouncer itself

Greg B 10-13-2003 11:35 AM

Heavans to murgatroid!!!

Say it ain't so!!!

Mutt 10-13-2003 11:37 AM

what is ABBilling? AdultBouncer with ABBilling is now calling itself an IPSP? Guarantee you that they haven't been designated one by VISA anywhere in the world. They used to process through IBILL - pretty sure IBILL chased them out and they went to their own merchant account overseas.

Project-Shadow 10-13-2003 11:37 AM

Oh yeah.. and umm

You might wanna add the bit about J.M RETRACTING the license given to AB which cost 24k

But you know.. only add the bits that matter to you... :321GFY

crockett 10-13-2003 11:38 AM

I was looking into starting a deluxe pass site in the future... I noticed they allso offer up movies.. I kind of wondered how they could get a lic to do that... anyone know if DP's content is legit or are they doing the same thing AB is?

Mutt 10-13-2003 11:40 AM

Lady Mischief is right, some big shot lawyer who lurks here contacted me about a year ago and explained all this copyright stuff to me regarding movies.

Just the screencaps alone on a typical AB movie archive site are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in copyright infringement damage awards.

Project-Shadow 10-13-2003 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
I was looking into starting a deluxe pass site in the future... I noticed they allso offer up movies.. I kind of wondered how they could get a lic to do that... anyone know if DP's content is legit or are they doing the same thing AB is?
Some of DP's content is legit, but they are under fire from DivX as most of their stuff is encoded in DivX 5.05 which is licensed .. so your choice ^_^

FreeHugeMovies 10-13-2003 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedBumper


Then what's this all about?

Webmasters are uploading content they find on the web to their archives. The content AB and DP give to webmasters are all legal.

Greg B 10-13-2003 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
This should be a wakeup call to those who think it won't matter or they'll never be caught. Under US law, prosecuted to the full extent, even copyrighted IMAGES can carry a fine of $100,000 PER INFRINGEMENT (meaning every incidence of the image is a seperate infringement), as well as some heavy jail time. It's a FEDERAL OFFENCE, not just a joke, and although I don't know Adultbouncer, I don't envy their position right now.. Or those of any affiliates who don't take this lawsuit seriously. They are in violation of copyright as well, whether they know it or not, and ignorance is *NOT* an acceptable excuse in court. Period.

Oh, and if anyone wants a good scare, movies can be prosecuted (and have been in the past) as a SERIES of images, not just one entire thing. That brings the costs of infringement into the astronomical range. Definitely don't envy anyone on the recieving end of that one.. Yikes.

Finally, someone who KNOWS what the dilly is. Well said Lady Mischief and YES a motion picture can be considered as a collection of still images since each frame is a marketable property, just go to any movie fan site and see the big dough kicked out for film strips and official screen captures.

I've had more than my share of content theives and I never let em' know when I'm comin'. However SOME webmasters get duped into thinking something is sold to them legit when it ain't that's why I DO NOT use hentai content UNLESS I know the owners personally. It's just a lawsuit waiting to happen and them Japanese attornies bullshit not. Before you know it all your assets including the offshore shit is frozen and you're sitting there with a dumb look on your face. I know because some friends from Japan OWN damn near all that shit as well as many of the banks people dump their loot offshore.

It's a sucker's bet to steal content because the pros know what you're doin' before you start. Overseas they can hire 500 people to surf for stolen shit cause they pay em' $1 a day or some cheap ass shit.

Quotealex 10-13-2003 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
What took so long for them to finally take legal action?
I don't about them but Andrew Blake did shut down a sponsor three years ago that was ripping of his videos and claiming they had an exclusive agreement with Andrew Blake...

FreeHugeMovies 10-13-2003 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow


Some of DP's content is legit, but they are under fire from DivX as most of their stuff is encoded in DivX 5.05 which is licensed .. so your choice ^_^

Come on now bro. :) All of DP's content is in xvid now and they removed/converted all the movies from divx to xvid. I personally have all my archives sites with DP and not AB. :glugglug

Project-Shadow 10-13-2003 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies


Come on now bro. :) All of DP's content is in xvid now and they removed/converted all the movies from divx to xvid. I personally have all my archives sites with DP and not AB. :glugglug

Grrrrr AB Pwnz J00.. :winkwink:

mephisto 10-13-2003 11:53 AM

With respect to the JM Productions incident, (as far as I know) we were actually told by the person who licenses our content that we were able to use it. When we were contacted by JM Productions, we actually took said content offline and notified the copyright holder that we had done so. All webmasters who were known to be using JM Productions content were notified to remove it from their sites.
In fact if any more JM Productions content is found on any webmasters site, it will be temporarily disabled until the webmaster removes the content so that we may comply with the copyright holder's wishes.
This is as far as I know about this, for further details on this matter the best people to contact would be either the content team at [email protected] or Rob himself directly.
Also please note below thread in our support forums.
http://forums.adultbouncer.com/viewt...49959 5cf8ae6

Mutt 10-13-2003 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow
Oh yeah.. and umm

You might wanna add the bit about J.M RETRACTING the license given to AB which cost 24k

But you know.. only add the bits that matter to you... :321GFY

That's fair, if you have more information regarding JM Productions and AdultBouncer share it with us. Are you an owner/employee of AB?

I really doubt JM Productions licensed anything, they are one company that has no interest in licensing their movies.

BUT ya know what, maybe they did license AB - now why would they retract that license? Let's hear about that. Maybe we'll find out why JM Productions is so adamant that they will never make their content available to webmasters.

Every one of these adult movie production companies have been ASS RAPED by adult webmasters, licensed or unlicensed.

Mutt 10-13-2003 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mephisto
With respect to the JM Productions incident, (as far as I know) we were actually told by the person who licenses our content that we were able to use it. When we were contacted by JM Productions, we actually took said content offline and notified the copyright holder that we had done so. All webmasters who were known to be using JM Productions content were notified to remove it from their sites.
In fact if any more JM Productions content is found on any webmasters site, it will be temporarily disabled until the webmaster removes the content so that we may comply with the copyright holder's wishes.
This is as far as I know about this, for further details on this matter the best people to contact would be either the content team at [email protected] or Rob himself directly.

AHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAH...........this is the fucking nonsense that the owners of thousands of movies have to deal with.

How noble of you fuckface - when you and your thieving webmasters get caught you will take down the content upon request. WHAT ABOUT MAKING RESTITUTION FOR THE DAMAGE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ?

you know for a fact after all this time running a movies only AVS system of AB's size that 99% of your webmasters uploading their own content havent paid anybody a FUCKING DIME for it.
And no judge anywhere on this planet will believe differently.

You had no license from JM Productions. You've made a convenient story up to cover your asses. JM Productions is located where 90% of the world's porn production houses are - all you had to do was call them to make sure you were licensing legal content bearing their name.

LadyMischief 10-13-2003 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
Lady Mischief is right, some big shot lawyer who lurks here contacted me about a year ago and explained all this copyright stuff to me regarding movies.

Just the screencaps alone on a typical AB movie archive site are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in copyright infringement damage awards.

I've made it my business to know copyright law inside and out, and I've studied a lot of precident cases. I was surprised to learn myself that movies can be prosecuted this way.. but to break it down further for those who don't see what I'm getting at..

Movies go frame by frame, and they can technically take each frame and count that as a seperate image... so say a 15 second video clip has 15 frames per second, 225 frames, they could technically prosecute for 225 different images and pursue damages on each. multiply that by the maximum penalty, which is $100,000 US per image, it's not child's play anymore :)

mephisto 10-13-2003 12:05 PM

Mutt, I doubt you have any links to JM Productions, therefore I think you should leave it to JM Productioons and Adultbouncer to sort it out.
Thanks for trolling this topic.
Have a nice day.

AB-Devil 10-13-2003 12:07 PM

For those of you who don't know me, let me introduce myself. I'm the webmaster support for Adultbouncer. And I personally know the majority of our webmasters. That said, I would really like to know where you people get your information. Especially those of you who are not AB webmasters.

Mutt for example. You seem to know a great deal about the inner working of Adultbouncer. I believe you said something to the effect about AB staff replying to this. Well here you go. As to JM Productions - I have seen the licensing involved in this. And i know for a fact that what is happenning here is way beyond what is required. This borders on slander. But that is another dog to beat on another day.

For those of you saying that we have illegal content. I will say this. Prove it. Period. You don't know what licensing we have. And you have no idea what other agreements have been made.

The AB clone craze should tell everyone here a bit about how lucative this business can be. And also some of the pitfalls. No business is without faults. The porn industry itself is in this category also. Not only AB. So for those of you who like what you do, and like the money it brings you - keep up the good work. For those of you who just sit in here offering your opinions - keep that up as well. We all can learn from mistakes. This entire thread is based on miscommunication and mistakes so don't take what is said here as gospel. A grain of salt goes a very long way.


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