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Old 09-13-2013, 07:21 AM   #1
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California Minimum Wage Increase To $10 An Hour Passes Both Houses, Gov. Brown Expected To Sign

Gov. Jerry Brown and the leaders of the California state Legislature announced strong support Wednesday for a bill that would raise the state's minimum wage to $10 an hour.

?The minimum wage has not kept pace with rising costs,? Brown said in a statement. ?This legislation is overdue and will help families that are struggling in this harsh economy.?

Assemblyman Luis Alejo's (D-Salinas) bill, AB 10, would raise the minimum wage in California from $8.00 an hour to $10.00 an hour. The bill passed the state Assembly in May and is expected to be voted on in the Senate this week.

UPDATE: The state Senate approved the minimum wage increase on Thursday. It is expected to win final approval from the Assembly later Thursday or Friday, before it goes to the governor. Brown has said he will sign the bill into law.
Alejo introduced similar bills in 2011 and 2012 that both died because of opposition by Republican members and business lobbyists, who called the proposal a "job killer."

Alejo's chief of staff, Marva Diaz, told The Huffington Post that this bill is stronger because the two leaders of the Legislature have been added as co-authors: Senate President Pro Tempore Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) and Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (D-Los Angeles).

Perez disputed the claim that raising the minimum wage would reduce jobs. ?The real winner here is the economy. A $10 hour minimum wage boosts earnings by $4,000 a year and will put $2.6 billion dollars back into the hands of workers,? Pérez said in a statement. ?This is money that will be spent at grocery stores, on school supplies and invested in education, and that ultimately strengthens the recovery and ensures California?s job market continues growing faster than the rest of the nation.?

California's minimum wage is among the highest in the country, although it hasn't been raised since 2008. AB 10 would raise the minimum wage in two separate one-dollar increments: from $8 per hour today to $9 per hour, effective July 1, 2014, and from $9 per hour to $10 per hour, effective Jan. 1, 2016.
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Doesn't sound too bad really, toots.
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CA has always had a higher minimum wage because people believe the BS of "living in California cost more." Nonsense!

This will only open the door to MORE taxes for those people... so you theoretically make more, but at the end, it will probably be the same amount
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Well, since California is the model of fiscal understanding and responsibility, it only makes sense. I mean its not like they are perpetually bankrupt, have high taxes, high cost of living and are driving people and entire industries out of the state in droves.
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Wait to see how this effects everyone, probably bring more poor people to California just like we get more illegal aliens because of sanctuary cities and because our welfare pays higher we get more poor people.
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Well, since California is the model of fiscal understanding and responsibility, it only makes sense. I mean its not like they are perpetually bankrupt, have high taxes, high cost of living and are driving people and entire industries out of the state in droves.
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So all the minimum value society members will flock to CA for the higher paying flipping jobs?
Way to go.
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Nice model to prove that the minimum wage that high is NOT going to help.
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So some CEOs don't get to take home the usual millions in yearly bonuses that they really weren't worth in the first place.

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CA has always had a higher minimum wage because people believe the BS of "living in California cost more." Nonsense!

This will only open the door to MORE taxes for those people... so you theoretically make more, but at the end, it will probably be the same amount
What's funny is California is so diverse, not just with its people but also its geography. The farming valleys are absolutely massive and make up a huge part of the country's agricultural output. Raising minimum wage in poor valley towns to make up for the high cost of Los Angeles living does not make much sense to me? basically sounds like the inner-city politicians have way more power than the rural politicians (which I would guess is fairly common), but those rural businesses are certainly going to take a hit.

They should put up a new sign on the Tijuana entry. "Hello migrant workers, we welcome you!"

On the bright side, this could spur technological innovations. Speed trains to bring in workers from Oregon, Nevada, Arizona?
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So some CEOs don't get to take home the usual millions in yearly bonuses that they really weren't worth in the first place.

Shucks.
You're kidding yourself. CEOs will not take the hit. Neither will stockholders.
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You're kidding yourself. CEOs will not take the hit. Neither will stockholders.
They'll just do some layoffs and make each remaining emp do the work of 2.

Which is why getting worked up over a min wage increase is silly.
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CA has always had a higher minimum wage because people believe the BS of "living in California cost more." Nonsense!

This will only open the door to MORE taxes for those people... so you theoretically make more, but at the end, it will probably be the same amount
don't worry after cally runs all the tax paying business out of the state with bullshit legislation things will be okay
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Yes. And some CEO's from not so profitable businesses may close their business overall.

Its funny how peasants see only one side.
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So lets raise minimum to 15$. I mean its no problem for the country/state, just adapt or die. Right?
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What's funny is California is so diverse, not just with its people but also its geography. The farming valleys are absolutely massive and make up a huge part of the country's agricultural output. Raising minimum wage in poor valley towns to make up for the high cost of Los Angeles living does not make much sense to me? basically sounds like the inner-city politicians have way more power than the rural politicians (which I would guess is fairly common), but those rural businesses are certainly going to take a hit.

They should put up a new sign on the Tijuana entry. "Hello migrant workers, we welcome you!"

On the bright side, this could spur technological innovations. Speed trains to bring in workers from Oregon, Nevada, Arizona?
There have been people for decades that have wanted to split the state in 3 states. When I had my house in Shasta Lake California. I could see two glaciers from my front yard.
$15 a hour in the area was considered a good job and you could buy a home with that kind of income.
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You, like all other poor people have no real clue how business works. The added costs are ALWAYS passed to consumers. YOU are paying for the pay raise... not the "evil corporation". Fucking moron.
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congrats too bad not a bit higher, but after they start seeing growth i think this minimum wage will continue to climb
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So lets raise minimum to 15$. I mean its no problem for the country/state, just adapt or die. Right?
But, Adapt or Die works so well in the porn industry ........... right?

As long as an individual is satisfied with the amount of money he is hauling in, why should that individual give a flying fuck about anyone or anything else?
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Ummm .... hmmm ..... yeah
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Someone is making $10 an hour. Let's rage for hours on end and start a riot over it. A whole $2 an hour raise! Clearly the Communists have won and Capitalism is over.
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congrats too bad not a bit higher, but after they start seeing growth i think this minimum wage will continue to climb
Riiiiight. Everyone here knows why you are hoping for a high minimum wage. It's going to be your retirement plan.
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Riiiiight. Everyone here knows why you are hoping for a high minimum wage. It's going to be your retirement plan.
My thoughts exactly in regards to signupdammit remark above yours. The Hamburlgars need to plan ahead.

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Not just someone. Lazy bastards who are not much of a value to the companies will be making that as well. And they will be getting the whole huge 25% increase for their crappy service.
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But, Adapt or Die works so well in the porn industry ........... right?
It works quite well for those that actually adapt. Not so well for dipshits who are in a perpetual state of befuddlement at the fact that money isn't just falling out of the sky.

We all understand that a high minimum wage is very important to you, _Richard_ and signupdamit. When you have no skills, no education and no real ability to make money in the very business you've been in for years... the future has to look pretty bleak. Add on top of that your mom bitching that you didn't make your bed, your dad threatening to throw you out of the house and add to that, the constant worry of your bicycle getting stolen and life has to be pretty stressful.
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It works quite well for those that actually adapt. Not so well for dipshits who are in a perpetual state of befuddlement at the fact that money isn't just falling out of the sky.

We all understand that a high minimum wage is very important to you, _Richard_ and signupdamit. When you have no skills, no education and no real ability to make money in the very business you've been in for years... the future has to look pretty bleak. Add on top of that your mom bitching that you didn't make your bed, your dad threatening to throw you out of the house and add to that, the constant worry of your bicycle getting stolen and life has to be pretty stressful.
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Not just someone. Lazy bastards who are not much of a value to the companies will be making that as well. And they will be getting the whole huge 25% increase for their crappy service.
Then the company can fire them and hire someone else instead who is worth the wage.
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Whenever someone addresses me as a peasant or poor, I just have to sit back and laugh in my house that is completely paid for on the farm where I have fresh beef, chicken, pork, eggs and produce.

Oh, then there is the free clean water ...... not that nasty reclamated stuff with so many chemicals in it that any medications you are taking are probably rendered inneffective .... or methane courtesy of the frakkers ...........

Ummm...... what else ...... oh! I got a guy who clears the snow out of my driveway ..... not a little pussy suburban driveway where you could spit on your mailbox from your front door either.

And ..... uhhh ..... no noisy neighbors, get to hang my laundry outside, gots the Hulu and the Netflix, a 360 Mbps Internets connection, VOIP, cell phone, AC, I-pads, car that gets 39 mpg ..........

Gosh, what else is there that I am missing ............. Maybe it would be easier to list what I don't have .............

I don't have a boat! Or a jet ski! That's it!

I'm so fucking pooooooooooooor!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOpoooooooooooooooooooo o!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sounds like you really are living the dream. Surrounded by dirty animals you have to kill for dinner in some backwoods nowhere. All you are missing is the Doomsday Preppers box set, an AR15, a Rambo knife and a bunker.

Will you and _Richard_ have a his and her bath in your bunker? Or will you share the same bathroom?

Just out of curiosity (and please tell me if this is crossing the line)... but you are the top? Or is _Richard_?
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Then the company can fire them and hire someone else instead who is worth the wage.
In ideal world. In reality - there are not enough of quality people to fill all the job openings. Meaning that some percentage of work force do not even meet minimum wage requirements, but there are not enough of people to replace them all.
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Oh no in 3 years someone will have a miniscule raise that, by then, will be eaten by more taxes. Lets get mad.
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hahaha saying "minimum wage" is like blowing the Loser Whistle around here.
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hahaha saying "minimum wage" is like blowing the Loser Whistle around here.
is that why you're the top replier to the thread?
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It is so funny to see someone repeatedly spike their blood pressure in name calling tirades over a topic about money that isn't even his, especially when he makes soooOOOooo much of it himself compared to everyone else at GFY.

Hilarious.

EDIT: What a Dipshit.
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im just shocked he does this for free.. comedy gold
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im just shocked he does this for free.. comedy gold
STOP IT!!!! I can't take it anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to get out of the house and go for a troll ....... I means stroll ........
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It is so funny to see someone repeatedly spike their blood pressure in name calling tirades over a topic about money that isn't even his, especially when he makes soooOOOooo much of it himself compared to everyone else at GFY.

Hilarious.

EDIT: What a Dipshit.
Thought you were ignoring me.

These issues affect everyone. (except Canadians... though that never stops _Richard_)

These issues are about what we expect of people. What society expects of people. What standards a society has. What standards a society wants to hold its people to.... and what we expect of each and every person. The "American Dream" was never "get a low paying job and then demand more from society".

The message "hey no-skilled assholes who have no value in the workplace because you have no skills, experience or education - you deserve more". is not a great message. I will pay for it directly with higher costs. I will pay for it indirectly as we continue to create a society that - instead of demanding the best effort from everyone and that expects everyone to strive for greatness is slowly being replaced with self entitled idiots who know absolutely nothing about how the world works and believe they need to be rewarded for non-achievement.

The message should be "you need to keep moving up. You need to keep working harder. Keep improving your skills. You need to keep improving your education and INCREASE YOUR VALUE in the workplace. Not simply demand more for a job you shouldn't be doing for more than a year anyway... because its not a career, nor was it ever meant to be"

I am not uber wealthy. I don't try to be. I try to enjoy my life. I don't think I am better than anyone because of my bank account. I think I am better than those who don't try.. because I and those I choose to surround myself with, do.
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Thought you were ignoring me.
You fell for that ?!?!? You are a fucking lousy troll who always magically shows up to diss "the new guy", like that dumbass Geedub. You both suffer from poor self esteem. Seriously, how the fuck am I supposed to ignore pathetic saps like you guys?

I once had a clown like you troll me for several years in a forum I was admin of. Every stinking day he showed up to boost his self image at what he thought was my expense.

As it turns out, the forum didn't have a single outside reader. The 30 something registered members and 300 something forum guests were actually the sockpuppets of me and 3 friends. He finally caught on after 2 years and decided to quit while he was behind.

Prove to me you are smarter than that and I'll cut you some slack.

In the meantime, don't waste any more effort in keystrokes trying to convey an opinion to me. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

Please go back to the bridge you crawled out from under.
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You keep using the word "troll" and cling to the concept of "being trolled" which implies some sort of superiority on your part as if you actually have any purpose or point or argument, which you don't. Since you aren't smart enough to hold your own ground, you have to cling to this fabricated notion that you are somehow on the high ground as it is. Troll.... The use of that word is the final refuge of an intellectual lightweight. That's because you - though quite dumb, are smart enough to at least recognize that intellectually you are outgunned. You dodge the substance of the argument because you have to. Would end up being quite embarrassing for you if you didn't.
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Gawd yer making my head hurt.

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You keep using the word "troll" and cling to the concept of "being trolled" which implies some sort of superiority on your part as if you actually have any purpose or point or argument, which you don't. Since you aren't smart enough to hold your own ground, you have to cling to this fabricated notion that you are somehow on the high ground as it is. Troll.... The use of that word is the final refuge of an intellectual lightweight. That's because you - though quite dumb, are smart enough to at least recognize that intellectually you are outgunned. You dodge the substance of the argument because you have to. Would end up being quite embarrassing for you if you didn't.
Nope, you still don't get it.

Maybe in another 2 years ...................
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Hard to live on 10.00. You're still in the broke house

These guys need to have roommates or stay with their parents.

Definitely not raising kids and buying a home in California.
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Gawd yer making my head hurt.



Nope, you still don't get it.

Maybe in another 2 years ...................


ur a good citizen with a deep respect for others.

id have listed it as 'never'.
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ur a good citizen with a deep respect for others.

id have listed it as 'never'.
It's been way too long since I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard.
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Alright, back to the goddam topic already ...........

Many Americans work harder than the lazy-online-gambling-let's-all-vote-no-because-the-prez-is-a-Democrat-we're-dickwads-who-are-always-on-vacation politicians and the pay in the paychecks on both sides should reflect that.

Democracy has spoken!!!!!!!!!!!

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Now that I have an IV and I am duct taped into my chair ..............

Paying a minimum wage because the law dictates that it is the minimum you are required to pay, you end up with masses demanding a wage increase.

Paying a living wage and you end up with masses who have no need for welfare. And while some may squander their wages, working more and living frugally for a duration would allow those persons to catch up and become less likely to repeat the same behavior because they learned a valuable lesson in the process.

If you walk ten steps to the left or right of your bloated self importance, you might understand the concept of reaping what you sow.

Now, why is it necessary to pay workers the bare minimum?

the most likely answer is A) you are determined to make more than the bare minimum B) you are an asshole C) you and other assholes like you lack any foresight as to how this will yield economic consequences in the long run, to which you will grumble about in Internets Forums -and- D) all of the above.
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