Jack Sparrow

Followup on this thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=999450 but with the best ideas put together.

1. Make a seperate section on GFY for serious bussiness people.
2. Make that seperate section a PAID section. $100 a year to get access to it.
3. Have serious identifaction: a) Whois check b) Automatic telephonenumber verification c) Automatic file verification (where said person uploads a personal html file that can be checked and verified.
4. Serious biz posts only, strict rules, no personal attacks, no trashing etc etc. Not following the rules is a sudden ban.

Following quote from jewcat says it all:

Alky

are serious business posts the same as... spamming?

Davy

Some problems with that:
- same people trolling in that section as in the free section
- no new blood
- no biz with outsiders

But a new section is in order if things should change here.
GFY's main forum is the troll forum. The business part should be better separated from that.
Turn "fucking around and discussions" into "offtopic". Then go through all older threads and move the business threads into a new forum.
It is a lot of work, but it can be done.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

fuck moving old threads, that is way too much work, nobody wants to do it, nobody will do it. as long as that is part of the plan, no one is ever going to tackle it. just start with a fresh new subforum and make sure it is run properly from the start.

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Jack Sparrow

At least we wouldnt have to deal with nobodies like you.

I dont think we should move all existing biz threads there, start new and fresh so we know who to trust too. There will always be new blood, and you could still contact people that arent in there but posting on the troll section looking for your services.

Outsiders? Have you seen what gfy turned into? The outsiders are: surfers, fakenicks, people who got banned before with multiple nicks, trashers and general dumbasses. Hardly any outsider i want to do biz with, no offense.

Yep, agreed. It wouldnt even be that hard to find 2-3 mods to verify things and keep an eye on whats happening there. Maybe we could even get people to work together again. Share real tips without every thread ending into a trashfest between fakenicks and anonymous losers.

Its not that uncommon either, mainstream forums do this all the time. And it works.

Agent 488

who gives a shit?

Jack Sparrow

From the looks of it, lots of serious people.

Agent 488

gfy is what it is.

Robocrop

Overkill.......stop try to change what Eric has built up.

Stop pretend to be serious, we are what we are.

ottopottomouse

Massive clean-ups kill forums.

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Jack Sparrow

Gfy is flooded with bullshit trolls and fakenicks.
Talk to anyone IN the biz offline and they will tell you they dont take gfy serious anymore. Which a couple of us biz people find sad. Why not give us our bizforum? Cant be much against trying..

Stacks Banned for Life

lol if you wanna charge then bump it to a 500-1k lifetime membership for exclusive forums and business people, 100 is not enough to weed out the bs.

Slutboat

hahahahah - YOU FORGOT HYPOCRITES!

You are a fake ass multiple nick - you troll and talk shit more than anyone on GFY!

I can not BELIEVE you didn't use one of your other nicks to make this thread....

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There are industry folks who have been claiming not to take GFY seriously any more for years and yet they all have accounts here and it is still the biggest of the adult webmaster forums.

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Robocrop

Have to agree abit here Frisky...you have been flooding the forum alot vs Choker and been using multiple nicks

Suddenly you are against the same shit you have been pulling around here?


Eric will not change the rules, why waste your breath?

Robocrop

Oh and as a sidenote...if GFY sucks so much? buy a domain for $10 and set up Vbulletin, then invite your "biz" friends via ICQ/Mail and have your biz forum?

I mean after 1-2 months it will be crowded with business minded people who are GFY millionares.

Machete_

fuck off, you broke surfer noob

Slutboat

it would be nice to see GFY indulge Sparrow's fantasy here - Jack off could sit in his ghost town by himself and wait for others to come in...

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life

You don't need to clean up the forum or change anything.

Just create the premium subforum and take good care of it. Leave everything else exactly how it is. That way you've given all the hardcore "industry only" whiners a place to go be amongst themselves without the FA&PD shitshow getting in their way. If they venture over to FA&PD and don't like what they see, fuck 'em. It would be nice to have one area where if you don't want to see the bullshit and want to hold a conversation with some halfway serious members, you can.

Slutboat

Frisky doesn't really want the subforum - this is just his way of telling people he thinks he is better than us... even if he got his wish - he would still be here in the fun house talking shit the whole time...

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indeed..

candyflip

Watching fake nick frisky whine and cry about an institution that hasn't changed in 10 years now.

Gfy is what it is. Don't like it...get lost. This has always been how it is.

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Black All Through

What are his other fake nicks?

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Jack the solution is simple. Put those you think are trolls on ignore, including me if you think I'm a troll.

Then they won't bother you.

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candyflip

Wouldn't be surprised if this is one of them.

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CaptainHowdy

This only proves that the ones who really want "change" just want things to stay the same, this kind of posts are just a "mise en scène".

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good point!

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Hey shit for brains, Eric has already stated for the record that GFY will never charge membership fees. What part of never charging didn't you understand?

As for the rest: Will Marco and Eastwood be granted admission to your proposed new forum?
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this shouldve been done years ago, too late now adult is dead

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Jack Sparrow

Thats because i only have one, but feel free to point out any other nicks i use.

Maybe the biggest as in "amounts of post". But you can count the REAL biz threads here on the fingers of one hand. There are forums that might be 90% smaller, but at least i know im doing biz with people IN the biz and without every bizthread resulting into a trashfest by people that have nothing lost here.

No offense. But it seems that there is more then enough interest for a platform on gfy that is not just about bullshit.

You are right about me trolling the last 3-4 days. Thats because i only use GFY for fucking around these days. Theres no use in using GFY as a professional platform anymore if you ask me. Any biz thread resorts in namecalling and fakenicks and random losers are attracted like flies to honey.

Its exactly THAT fact why some of us think it would be better to have a seperate forum. And again, i dont see it hurting someone, if it doesnt work it would be easy to remove it again.

Exactly. Couldnt have said it better then that.

I dont think you are a troll paul. And believe me my ignore list grows bigger and bigger. But that doesnt change anything from the fact that if anyone posts a serious thread that gets visited by pesky trolls and trashers that have nothing better to do then ruin everyones biz no matter what it is or who it is whos posting it, people will be reading their replies because THEY dont have these fools on their ignore list.


I guess it is. No wonder the adult is going down. To many fake ballers, to few people cooperating. And i dont blame anyone either, why cooperate or even try when every serious thread gets trashed by fools.

Eric can do whatever he wants. But it seems easy to just put up a seperate forum and keep it controlled.

quiet

i'm sure he appreciates your approval.

Jack Sparrow

Im sure you understand what i was saying there.

baddog

Do you ever read posts made by people like, say Eric? He just said the other day that GFY WILL NEVER charge. If it is that important to you, why don't you do like so many others and start your own forum? I mean, you seem to know how to make a successful forum, capitalize on it.

Jack Sparrow

Well you same to be successful making photographs, does that mean you have to start your own forum?

Fun aside, those where 4-5 points some of us collected to see HOW we could have a seperate section. Charging a fee was just one of them, and not even my point made. If eric doesnt want to charge for it then so be it and we still have other valid points to slightly improve gfy for us biz folks.

baddog

You really should remove your blinders for five minutes. You think the lack of business threads means no business is being done? Have you never attended a trade show?

Let me help you out. People are introduced on the show floor then seal the deal at the parties later. Now, substitute trade show for GFY. You sure spend a lot of time here for someone that considers it a waste of time.

I used to post on every adult board. I determined that was a waste of time. Did I complain about it and tell the board owners what they were doing wrong? No. I stopped posting at the boards that were a waste of my time.

Why not put together a list of those that think your idea holds water?

baddog

Not sure what you are trying to say. I am not the one here whining about GFY. I don't need to start a forum just because I want to post photos. I create blogs, which people can join if they want, or they can just lurk.

AmeliaG

I'd be perfectly happy to see more business getting done here. I'm something of a workaholic, so anywhere really.

I mean biggest in the sense that I'm most likely to get an answer to a tech question here, most likely to get a number of opinions on any company I'm considering doing business with here, most likely to get new affiliates if I post a SpookyCash content thread here.

I honestly feel that exclusionary tactics at the trade shows really messed up the affiliate business model. When all the guys who were doing promo for beer money got treated with contempt . . . they did go somewhere else. And now there are so many fewer affiliates. And losing that support structure knocked out some of the same ballers who were trying to make themselves feel big by making smaller affiliates feel small or telling them they had to suck up to get invited to some sausagefest party. Are we really better off for having a smaller pool of potential people to work with?

I have accounts on pretty much all of the industry forums, but GFY is always the one I check the most often. I think I'm fairly typical for a professional webmaster in this regard.

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I can say this, when I get really active posting on GFY I do see an increase in new affiliates signing up. I do not use a tracking code in my links to Payserve so I do not know exactly how many are directly related to posting here but I suspect a lot of them see the posts here and click through to check out the program

Davy

I have moved old threads on my own forum. It's only 1/10th of the size of gfy, and it is a lot of work. But it is not impossible.
And you just won't get rid of the trolls if they are able to bump troll threads in the biz forum and vice versa.

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mrRealiti

I am starting to break into this field little by little and have genuinely utilized this site for advice and information in a short time. However it seems from what people are writing, either re-doing the forums could be counterproductive or making some forums pay only (and it seems the thought of the cost is going up). I also notice that people are associating serious people with an economical success rate that maybe 5-10% of the community here has.

I may not be familiar with this field, but I am very familiar with running a business and running a few sites. I am sure there are a lot of "Serious" individuals that may not have the $$ chops just yet. Personally, I am not sure how "Serious" someone could be if they are making 10k/month USD and they are on this(any) board. They know what they need to do more so then anyone else.

Someone such as myself, take this board as a wealth of information and is attempting to utilize most everything I come across. I am sure there are a lot of people like me here.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of bullshit here and abuse, or whatever you want to call it. While I think Eric has made it clear that he does not want to charge for this forum. That doesn't mean there can't be a VIP section? But the VIP section can be a combination of things. Cost, posts, time on site, reputable sites, real things to battle against bots, etc

Additionally, this gives the opportunity of someone like me to work for it also. I have learned quite a bit in my short time here and I would hate to lose it simply because I am new, don't have the website chops yet, etc.

In closing, whatever is to be done, needs to enhance growth too, not limit it.

mrR

(If this has been spoken on (IE VIP status, etc), I didn;t see it, couldnt find it, looked for it, etc)

Jack Sparrow

A group of people getting together in a thread to see if there can be discussion to improve some things is whining right. Thats an excuse most people use because they cant win an argument baddog.

Why would i want to put a lit together? Its obvious from the replies people are thinking about this. You are amongst the naysayers, and if you remove your blinders for a minute you can see that the people against it are against it because its me saying it, OR because they are the obvious fakenicks.

And no, i NEVER attended a show. Just because of the same reason. Getting pissed drunk trying to be populair with some models never was my idea of doing biz, and im glad i could always schedule my meetings in private and not on a show with some dumbwit drunks.

Im not sure what you are trying to point out? Your replies are more like personal attacks then ontopic. But hey, its gfy right who fucking cares

Robocrop

Umm Baddog mainly stated the "pay" thing will never get approved...yet you continue to blabb about it..

Give this useless thread a rest now, your improvements will not be implented.

epitome

For someone that has been accused by quite a few people of having fake nicks you are putting too much thought into all of this.

GFY pays its bills from advertising. Truth is drama and troll threads get the most pageviews. It is not in their best interests to triple verify your haters so you don't get butt hurt, which is what this is really about.

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baddog

I am going to have to presume that you have a comprehension issue.

Agent 488

the other business boards are fucking dead as shit now - it's only the trolling and fucking around that prevents this place from closing up shop.

trolls didn't slow this board down. adult internet is on life support unless you are manwin or banging the fuck out of the last few credit cards out there.

people have just moved on to other ways to put food on their table. if adult internet recovers somehow, this board will pick up.

Jack Sparrow

I dont care how many of the same dipshits post about me having multiple fake nicks. I always posted under 1 and 1 name only. If i was worried about it, would i make a thread like this? Let me ask you something offtopic: What fake nicks do i have?

I dont need any. I dont give a shit how big or small someone is: I will post my honest opinion under my own name. Always did. If you want to believe a couple of fakenicks and anonymous trolls go ahead. Not that i care.

Well then explain it to me again. "Presuming someone has a comprehension issue" is like killing a discussion you cant win with valid arguements.

Let me ask you something baddog: What is AGAINST the idea?

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