Real action against the tubes...

[xxxjay]

http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

Great quote from me BTW!

[rhizome]

Turncoat

[amateurcanada]

WoOt! lol

[Alprazolam]

fuckin hallelujiah it's all over. all the porn stealing is over. praise the fsc. we're saved.

[american pervert]

i know at least one scumbag they let in

[Fat Panda]

good luck, watching free porn now

[BIGTYMER]

Based on the comments above we're doomed.

You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

[FlexxAeon]

can't wait to see it in action

[darksoul]

what ever happened with the round table that took place years ago ?
nothing

[Machete_]

As always, nothing is gong to be done about tubes.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Based on the comments above we're doomed.

You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

If only stopping Tubes was as easy as installing a program.

[urlhammer]

thats nice how they call all other producers/companies scum bags, who were the 100 scumbags that attended I'd like to know!.

Face it no one will ever be able to do anything about free porn. The gov looks at it this way, we can't tax it, so why waste state and gov dollars fighting it. Let them fight against themselves.

I think a cut and dry solution to the problem is to enforce a law that only allows 30 sec clips on tube sites. This can be regulated by hosting companies. You can still show the scenes and promote the programs. But I do have to admit, I like my free tubes especially when the hot ass bitch above me starts fucking, I really gotta pull it out and start yanking but can't do it without the help of tube8.com

hahahahahahahahaha

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

Great quote from me BTW!

some action must be taken jesus... adapt or die , yeah right mother tube illegal fuckers

[grumpy]

Witch big companies? Brazers?

[Agent 488]

any hackers there?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by darksoul

what ever happened with the round table that took place years ago ?
nothing

I was there. Nothing came of it.

We can only hope that maybe NOW the companies understand better the importance of trying to curb this problem. Though, it may be too late.

[PussyMaster]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

Great quote from me BTW!

The companies and producers advertise on trackers,illegal tubes and rapidshare websites. They keep alive the garbage and the garbage won`t dissapear at all.
However good luck.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If only stopping Tubes was as easy as installing a program.

I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well

[Klen]

Hmm they didn't said what role Jay have at occash.Are you their slave ?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by urlhammer

I think a cut and dry solution to the problem is to enforce a law that only allows 30 sec clips on tube sites. This can be regulated by hosting companies.

So then you are willing to have your hosting tab double or quadruple to pay for this monitoring? Just like the government, that 'monitoring' costs money in extra man hours. A host is not going to eat that cost.

So if you want them to do it, something beyond their purview as they are not law enforcement, then you will have to pay them like you would pay any other capitalistic business. Something I doubt that most in this thread would be willing to do... pay quadruple the hosting costs for this 'service'.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well

In the unlikely event of us, the industry, being able to stop piracy some Tubes will adapt. They will show legal content and still buyers will not return to buying. Piracy on Tubes isn't the problem, full length or scenes over 10 minutes are the problem. Legal or not.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

So then you are willing to have your hosting tab double or quadruple to pay for this monitoring? Just like the government, that 'monitoring' costs money in extra man hours. A host is not going to eat that cost.

So if you want them to do it, something beyond their purview as they are not law enforcement, then you will have to pay them like you would pay any other capitalistic business. Something I doubt that most in this thread would be willing to do... pay quadruple the hosting costs for this 'service'.

If hosting cost more, there would be less people able to put up free sites. Not less surfers, just less free sites.

What would be the price point that showing a free 20 minute 1,000s of times to get a sale becomes unprofitable. 10, 20, 30 cents a GB?

[Agent 488]

yeah bandwidth is going to miraculously going to stop getting cheaper forcing people back to vhs tapes and mags in plastic bags.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Based on the comments above we're doomed.

You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well

This is not even close to being the same thing.

"Adapt or die" works assuming that new legal business trends change the shape of the industry or the market.

Owners of Tube sites that show illegal content are thieves, not business people. "Adapting" to them does nothing but hurt your own bottom line and the bottom line of everyone else in this business.

[FreeHugeMovies]

How about a webmasters round table. Create a site that's doing business with these guys. Blacklist them

[RycEric]

I love this quote. Hey Steve... where have you been?

?The retreat was very informative,? LightspeedCash CEO Steve Lightspeed told XBIZ.?I was very impressed by the commitment of all the companies there to do something real to combat online piracy.?

[PXN]

Don't think what they are doing will change much unfortunately. But let's hope I'm wrong on this.

[newB]

Originally Posted by urlhammer

The gov looks at it this way, we can't tax it, so why waste state and gov dollars fighting it. Let them fight against themselves.

In my opinion, that's precisely why the government would want to get involved. When you think about the size of the industry that is being affected, that's a whole lot of taxable income that is drying up.

While the government seizes mainstream movie sites like freemovies.net (at least it was something like that - they kept changing the name and moving it around) that didn't host anything but merely linked to places like megaupload you have to wonder where exactly the distinction is being made.

I think it is safe to assume that the major reason the industry hasn't gotten government support is politics. During election years the candidates are always throwing around who voted for what - can you imagine the ads that would run for a representative in favor of protecting the adult industry? It would be career suicide.

Until that time, it's up to the industry to do it's best to police itself and innovate change and I applaud the forward thinking efforts of anyone and everyone that is trying to curtail this industry scourge.

[eroticsexxx]

[RycEric]

Originally Posted by newB

In my opinion, that's precisely why the government would want to get involved. When you think about the size of the industry that is being affected, that's a whole lot of taxable income that is drying up.

While the government seizes mainstream movie sites like freemovies.net (at least it was something like that - they kept changing the name and moving it around) that didn't host anything but merely linked to places like megaupload you have to wonder where exactly the distinction is being made.

I think it is safe to assume that the major reason the industry hasn't gotten government support is politics. During election years the candidates are always throwing around who voted for what - can you imagine the ads that would run for a representative in favor of protecting the adult industry? It would be career suicide.

Until that time, it's up to the industry to do it's best to police itself and innovate change and I applaud the forward thinking efforts of anyone and everyone that is trying to curtail this industry scourge.

Yup.. it's bad PR (feds) for them. Straight from the horse's mouth.

[LeRoy]

That's killer Jay!

Hope you guys can make something happen

[Allison]

I couldn't have been happier with the results of the event and the momentum going on with anti-piracy efforts. Not everything will be public or visible immediately, but there is a lot in the works.

Both content owners and site operators need to really get informed. This is not a simple matter that can be learned through reading board posts, but once the knowledge is obtained empowerment starts and every content owner at the event now has that empowerment going forward and we're confident in the results each will be achieving individually and jointly.