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  • xxxjay
    Tube groupie.
    • Aug 2002
    • 13482

    #1

    Real action against the tubes...

    http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

    Great quote from me BTW!

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  • rhizome
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 788

    #2
    Turncoat

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    • amateurcanada
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2001
      • 3766

      #3
      WoOt! lol

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      • Alprazolam
        So Fucking Banned
        • Aug 2005
        • 864

        #4
        fuckin hallelujiah it's all over. all the porn stealing is over. praise the fsc. we're saved.

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        • american pervert
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2002
          • 6840

          #5
          i know at least one scumbag they let in
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          • Fat Panda
            Porn is Dead. Move along.
            • Aug 2006
            • 13296

            #6
            good luck, watching free porn now

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            • BIGTYMER
              Junior Achiever
              • Nov 2004
              • 17066

              #7
              Based on the comments above we're doomed.

              You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

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              • FlexxAeon
                Confirmed User
                • May 2003
                • 3765

                #8
                can't wait to see it in action
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                • darksoul
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 4997

                  #9
                  what ever happened with the round table that took place years ago ?
                  nothing
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                  • Machete_
                    WINNING!
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 14579

                    #10
                    As always, nothing is gong to be done about tubes.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                      Based on the comments above we're doomed.

                      You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.
                      If only stopping Tubes was as easy as installing a program.



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                      • urlhammer
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 444

                        #12
                        thats nice how they call all other producers/companies scum bags, who were the 100 scumbags that attended I'd like to know!.

                        Face it no one will ever be able to do anything about free porn. The gov looks at it this way, we can't tax it, so why waste state and gov dollars fighting it. Let them fight against themselves.

                        I think a cut and dry solution to the problem is to enforce a law that only allows 30 sec clips on tube sites. This can be regulated by hosting companies. You can still show the scenes and promote the programs. But I do have to admit, I like my free tubes especially when the hot ass bitch above me starts fucking, I really gotta pull it out and start yanking but can't do it without the help of tube8.com

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                        • seeandsee
                          Check SIG!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 50945

                          #13
                          Originally posted by xxxjay
                          http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

                          Great quote from me BTW!

                          some action must be taken jesus... adapt or die , yeah right mother tube illegal fuckers
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                          • grumpy
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 9870

                            #14
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                            • Agent 488
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #15
                              any hackers there?

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                              • DWB
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 31779

                                #16
                                Originally posted by darksoul
                                what ever happened with the round table that took place years ago ?
                                nothing
                                I was there. Nothing came of it.

                                We can only hope that maybe NOW the companies understand better the importance of trying to curb this problem. Though, it may be too late.

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                                • PussyMaster
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2008
                                  • 256

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                                  http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

                                  Great quote from me BTW!

                                  The companies and producers advertise on trackers,illegal tubes and rapidshare websites. They keep alive the garbage and the garbage won`t dissapear at all.
                                  However good luck.
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                                  • pornguy
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 62912

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    If only stopping Tubes was as easy as installing a program.
                                    I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

                                    I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well
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                                    • Klen
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 32235

                                      #19
                                      Hmm they didn't said what role Jay have at occash.Are you their slave ?

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                                      • Barefootsies
                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 42635

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by urlhammer
                                        I think a cut and dry solution to the problem is to enforce a law that only allows 30 sec clips on tube sites. This can be regulated by hosting companies.
                                        So then you are willing to have your hosting tab double or quadruple to pay for this monitoring? Just like the government, that 'monitoring' costs money in extra man hours. A host is not going to eat that cost.

                                        So if you want them to do it, something beyond their purview as they are not law enforcement, then you will have to pay them like you would pay any other capitalistic business. Something I doubt that most in this thread would be willing to do... pay quadruple the hosting costs for this 'service'.
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                                        • Paul Markham
                                          Too old to care
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 52942

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                          I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

                                          I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well
                                          In the unlikely event of us, the industry, being able to stop piracy some Tubes will adapt. They will show legal content and still buyers will not return to buying. Piracy on Tubes isn't the problem, full length or scenes over 10 minutes are the problem. Legal or not.

                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                          So then you are willing to have your hosting tab double or quadruple to pay for this monitoring? Just like the government, that 'monitoring' costs money in extra man hours. A host is not going to eat that cost.

                                          So if you want them to do it, something beyond their purview as they are not law enforcement, then you will have to pay them like you would pay any other capitalistic business. Something I doubt that most in this thread would be willing to do... pay quadruple the hosting costs for this 'service'.
                                          If hosting cost more, there would be less people able to put up free sites. Not less surfers, just less free sites.

                                          What would be the price point that showing a free 20 minute 1,000s of times to get a sale becomes unprofitable. 10, 20, 30 cents a GB?



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                                          • Agent 488
                                            Registered User
                                            • Feb 2006
                                            • 22511

                                            #22
                                            yeah bandwidth is going to miraculously going to stop getting cheaper forcing people back to vhs tapes and mags in plastic bags.

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                                            • 2MuchMark
                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 50988

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BIGTYMER
                                              Based on the comments above we're doomed.

                                              You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

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                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                • Aug 2004
                                                • 50988

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pornguy
                                                I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

                                                I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well
                                                This is not even close to being the same thing.

                                                "Adapt or die" works assuming that new legal business trends change the shape of the industry or the market.

                                                Owners of Tube sites that show illegal content are thieves, not business people. "Adapting" to them does nothing but hurt your own bottom line and the bottom line of everyone else in this business.

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                                                • FreeHugeMovies
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 14141

                                                  #25
                                                  How about a webmasters round table. Create a site that's doing business with these guys. Blacklist them

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                                                  • RycEric
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2009
                                                    • 1313

                                                    #26
                                                    I love this quote. Hey Steve... where have you been?

                                                    ?The retreat was very informative,? LightspeedCash CEO Steve Lightspeed told XBIZ.?I was very impressed by the commitment of all the companies there to do something real to combat online piracy.?

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                                                    • PXN
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2008
                                                      • 1548

                                                      #27
                                                      Don't think what they are doing will change much unfortunately. But let's hope I'm wrong on this.

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                                                      • newB
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                        • 2870

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by urlhammer
                                                        The gov looks at it this way, we can't tax it, so why waste state and gov dollars fighting it. Let them fight against themselves.
                                                        In my opinion, that's precisely why the government would want to get involved. When you think about the size of the industry that is being affected, that's a whole lot of taxable income that is drying up.

                                                        While the government seizes mainstream movie sites like freemovies.net (at least it was something like that - they kept changing the name and moving it around) that didn't host anything but merely linked to places like megaupload you have to wonder where exactly the distinction is being made.

                                                        I think it is safe to assume that the major reason the industry hasn't gotten government support is politics. During election years the candidates are always throwing around who voted for what - can you imagine the ads that would run for a representative in favor of protecting the adult industry? It would be career suicide.

                                                        Until that time, it's up to the industry to do it's best to police itself and innovate change and I applaud the forward thinking efforts of anyone and everyone that is trying to curtail this industry scourge.

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                                                        • eroticsexxx
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 3133

                                                          #29

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                                                          • RycEric
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2009
                                                            • 1313

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by newB
                                                            In my opinion, that's precisely why the government would want to get involved. When you think about the size of the industry that is being affected, that's a whole lot of taxable income that is drying up.

                                                            While the government seizes mainstream movie sites like freemovies.net (at least it was something like that - they kept changing the name and moving it around) that didn't host anything but merely linked to places like megaupload you have to wonder where exactly the distinction is being made.

                                                            I think it is safe to assume that the major reason the industry hasn't gotten government support is politics. During election years the candidates are always throwing around who voted for what - can you imagine the ads that would run for a representative in favor of protecting the adult industry? It would be career suicide.

                                                            Until that time, it's up to the industry to do it's best to police itself and innovate change and I applaud the forward thinking efforts of anyone and everyone that is trying to curtail this industry scourge.
                                                            Yup.. it's bad PR (feds) for them. Straight from the horse's mouth.

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                                                            • LeRoy
                                                              Porn Pusher
                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                              • 13364

                                                              #31
                                                              That's killer Jay!

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                                                              • Allison
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                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 2068

                                                                #32
                                                                I couldn't have been happier with the results of the event and the momentum going on with anti-piracy efforts. Not everything will be public or visible immediately, but there is a lot in the works.

                                                                Both content owners and site operators need to really get informed. This is not a simple matter that can be learned through reading board posts, but once the knowledge is obtained empowerment starts and every content owner at the event now has that empowerment going forward and we're confident in the results each will be achieving individually and jointly.
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