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xxxjay 10-21-2010 08:20 PM

Real action against the tubes...
 
http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

Great quote from me BTW!

:thumbsup

rhizome 10-21-2010 08:33 PM

Turncoat

amateurcanada 10-21-2010 09:07 PM

WoOt! lol

Alprazolam 10-21-2010 09:12 PM

fuckin hallelujiah it's all over. all the porn stealing is over. praise the fsc. we're saved.

american pervert 10-21-2010 09:12 PM

i know at least one scumbag they let in

Fat Panda 10-21-2010 09:17 PM

good luck, watching free porn now

BIGTYMER 10-21-2010 09:43 PM

Based on the comments above we're doomed.

You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

FlexxAeon 10-21-2010 10:12 PM

can't wait to see it in action

darksoul 10-21-2010 10:37 PM

what ever happened with the round table that took place years ago ?
nothing

Machete_ 10-21-2010 11:40 PM

As always, nothing is gong to be done about tubes.

Paul Markham 10-22-2010 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17630724)
Based on the comments above we're doomed.

You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

If only stopping Tubes was as easy as installing a program. :Oh crap

urlhammer 10-22-2010 03:40 AM

thats nice how they call all other producers/companies scum bags, who were the 100 scumbags that attended I'd like to know!.

Face it no one will ever be able to do anything about free porn. The gov looks at it this way, we can't tax it, so why waste state and gov dollars fighting it. Let them fight against themselves.

I think a cut and dry solution to the problem is to enforce a law that only allows 30 sec clips on tube sites. This can be regulated by hosting companies. You can still show the scenes and promote the programs. But I do have to admit, I like my free tubes especially when the hot ass bitch above me starts fucking, I really gotta pull it out and start yanking but can't do it without the help of tube8.com

hahahahahahahahaha

seeandsee 10-22-2010 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17630601)
http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

Great quote from me BTW!

:thumbsup

some action must be taken jesus... adapt or die , yeah right mother tube illegal fuckers

grumpy 10-22-2010 04:11 AM

Witch big companies? Brazers?

Agent 488 10-22-2010 04:27 AM

any hackers there?

DWB 10-22-2010 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 17630828)
what ever happened with the round table that took place years ago ?
nothing

I was there. Nothing came of it.

We can only hope that maybe NOW the companies understand better the importance of trying to curb this problem. Though, it may be too late.

PussyMaster 10-22-2010 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17630601)
http://www.xbiz.com/news/126571

Great quote from me BTW!

:thumbsup

The companies and producers advertise on trackers,illegal tubes and rapidshare websites. They keep alive the garbage and the garbage won`t dissapear at all.
However good luck.

pornguy 10-22-2010 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17631177)
If only stopping Tubes was as easy as installing a program. :Oh crap

I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well

Klen 10-22-2010 05:46 AM

Hmm they didn't said what role Jay have at occash.Are you their slave ?

Barefootsies 10-22-2010 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urlhammer (Post 17631218)
I think a cut and dry solution to the problem is to enforce a law that only allows 30 sec clips on tube sites. This can be regulated by hosting companies.

So then you are willing to have your hosting tab double or quadruple to pay for this monitoring? Just like the government, that 'monitoring' costs money in extra man hours. A host is not going to eat that cost.

So if you want them to do it, something beyond their purview as they are not law enforcement, then you will have to pay them like you would pay any other capitalistic business. Something I doubt that most in this thread would be willing to do... pay quadruple the hosting costs for this 'service'.
:2 cents:

Paul Markham 10-22-2010 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17631363)
I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well

In the unlikely event of us, the industry, being able to stop piracy some Tubes will adapt. They will show legal content and still buyers will not return to buying. Piracy on Tubes isn't the problem, full length or scenes over 10 minutes are the problem. Legal or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17631396)
So then you are willing to have your hosting tab double or quadruple to pay for this monitoring? Just like the government, that 'monitoring' costs money in extra man hours. A host is not going to eat that cost.

So if you want them to do it, something beyond their purview as they are not law enforcement, then you will have to pay them like you would pay any other capitalistic business. Something I doubt that most in this thread would be willing to do... pay quadruple the hosting costs for this 'service'.
:2 cents:

If hosting cost more, there would be less people able to put up free sites. Not less surfers, just less free sites.

What would be the price point that showing a free 20 minute 1,000s of times to get a sale becomes unprofitable. 10, 20, 30 cents a GB?

Agent 488 10-22-2010 06:28 AM

yeah bandwidth is going to miraculously going to stop getting cheaper forcing people back to vhs tapes and mags in plastic bags.

2MuchMark 10-22-2010 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17630724)
Based on the comments above we're doomed.

You adult webmasters should be behind this and not mocking it.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

2MuchMark 10-22-2010 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17631363)
I find it funny that " adapt or die " only seems to be a must for webmasters and affiliates but not for the tubes.

I guess some dont realize that its the same for the tubes. You go after them and they " adapt or die " as well

This is not even close to being the same thing.

"Adapt or die" works assuming that new legal business trends change the shape of the industry or the market.

Owners of Tube sites that show illegal content are thieves, not business people. "Adapting" to them does nothing but hurt your own bottom line and the bottom line of everyone else in this business.

FreeHugeMovies 10-22-2010 08:19 AM

How about a webmasters round table. Create a site that's doing business with these guys. Blacklist them

RycEric 10-22-2010 08:55 AM

I love this quote. Hey Steve... where have you been?

?The retreat was very informative,? LightspeedCash CEO Steve Lightspeed told XBIZ.?I was very impressed by the commitment of all the companies there to do something real to combat online piracy.?

PXN 10-22-2010 09:13 AM

Don't think what they are doing will change much unfortunately. But let's hope I'm wrong on this.

newB 10-22-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urlhammer (Post 17631218)
The gov looks at it this way, we can't tax it, so why waste state and gov dollars fighting it. Let them fight against themselves.

In my opinion, that's precisely why the government would want to get involved. When you think about the size of the industry that is being affected, that's a whole lot of taxable income that is drying up.

While the government seizes mainstream movie sites like freemovies.net (at least it was something like that - they kept changing the name and moving it around) that didn't host anything but merely linked to places like megaupload you have to wonder where exactly the distinction is being made.

I think it is safe to assume that the major reason the industry hasn't gotten government support is politics. During election years the candidates are always throwing around who voted for what - can you imagine the ads that would run for a representative in favor of protecting the adult industry? It would be career suicide.

Until that time, it's up to the industry to do it's best to police itself and innovate change and I applaud the forward thinking efforts of anyone and everyone that is trying to curtail this industry scourge.

eroticsexxx 10-22-2010 10:12 AM


RycEric 10-22-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 17632069)
In my opinion, that's precisely why the government would want to get involved. When you think about the size of the industry that is being affected, that's a whole lot of taxable income that is drying up.

While the government seizes mainstream movie sites like freemovies.net (at least it was something like that - they kept changing the name and moving it around) that didn't host anything but merely linked to places like megaupload you have to wonder where exactly the distinction is being made.

I think it is safe to assume that the major reason the industry hasn't gotten government support is politics. During election years the candidates are always throwing around who voted for what - can you imagine the ads that would run for a representative in favor of protecting the adult industry? It would be career suicide.

Until that time, it's up to the industry to do it's best to police itself and innovate change and I applaud the forward thinking efforts of anyone and everyone that is trying to curtail this industry scourge.

Yup.. it's bad PR (feds) for them. Straight from the horse's mouth.

LeRoy 10-22-2010 10:19 AM

That's killer Jay!

Hope you guys can make something happen :)

Allison 10-22-2010 12:07 PM

I couldn't have been happier with the results of the event and the momentum going on with anti-piracy efforts. Not everything will be public or visible immediately, but there is a lot in the works.

Both content owners and site operators need to really get informed. This is not a simple matter that can be learned through reading board posts, but once the knowledge is obtained empowerment starts and every content owner at the event now has that empowerment going forward and we're confident in the results each will be achieving individually and jointly.


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