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FreeHugeMovies · 09-30-2010, 08:10 AM

A lot of SEO company's are charging *maintenance* fees after they do their onsite SEO. So after the onsite SEO is complete they are charging you a nice $500 monthly fee for this service. They are not creating any back links for you, but charging you a fee.

Can someone please explain this to me? Is this not a massive scam? What software are they using to send their clients a monthly reports to make sure the $500 dollars they are spending has value?

Agent 488 · 09-30-2010, 08:14 AM

seo services generally a scam.

pinkbits · 09-30-2010, 09:04 AM

Im looking for an seo agency to work with as i want some seo work done for some sites i have. I emailed www.madcheapseo.com/seopackage/

But the never got back to me. There site only seems to except payments. I haven't been able to contact anyone unfortunately.

IF you know a place that offer seo work let me know as i am keen to start getting some work done for some of my sites.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 09-30-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkbits

Im looking for an seo agency to work with as i want some seo work done for some sites i have. I emailed www.madcheapseo.com/seopackage/

But the never got back to me. There site only seems to except payments. I haven't been able to contact anyone unfortunately.

IF you know a place that offer seo work let me know as i am keen to start getting some work done for some of my sites.

I know when I look for professional contractors, I like to go with the guys who have "Mad Cheap" as a part of the actual business name too. Something about it screams reliability...

pinkbits · 09-30-2010, 09:21 AM

Do you of a professional outfit?

Any help would be great.

Thanks Angry Jew Cat

FreeHugeMovies · 09-30-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

seo services generally a scam.

Depends on the value they offer and the price.

Agent 488 · 09-30-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkbits

Im looking for an seo agency to work with as i want some seo work done for some sites i have. I emailed www.madcheapseo.com/seopackage/

But the never got back to me. There site only seems to except payments. I haven't been able to contact anyone unfortunately.

IF you know a place that offer seo work let me know as i am keen to start getting some work done for some of my sites.

dude i posted that link as a joke in another thread ... although i think i am getting trolled back here.

Mark_E4A · 09-30-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

A lot of SEO company's are charging *maintenance* fees after they do their onsite SEO. So after the onsite SEO is complete they are charging you a nice $500 monthly fee for this service. They are not creating any back links for you, but charging you a fee.

Can someone please explain this to me? Is this not a massive scam? What software are they using to send their clients a monthly reports to make sure the $500 dollars they are spending has value?

The only "maintenance" fee should be if they are doing the link building for you as well, and even then the only "maintenance" would be after they hit your rank, they would need to "maintain" your rank as others would be trying to take the rank back from you.

fris · 09-30-2010, 10:22 AM

yoast is good

Jdoughs · 09-30-2010, 10:26 AM

I think www.madcheapseo.com is a joke like www.outhouseseo.com is a joke.

Agent 488 · 09-30-2010, 10:29 AM

unfortunately not:

http://www.madcheapseo.com/seopackage/

active paypal links etc.

Vick! · 09-30-2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

A lot of SEO company's are charging *maintenance* fees after they do their onsite SEO. So after the onsite SEO is complete they are charging you a nice $500 monthly fee for this service. They are not creating any back links for you, but charging you a fee.

Can someone please explain this to me? Is this not a massive scam? What software are they using to send their clients a monthly reports to make sure the $500 dollars they are spending has value?

$500 a month is not much when it comes to hiring an SEO firm. But what actually matters is what they are giving you back for that $500? ... a simple report of your ranking? Of course its not worth it then. Anyone can make that report easily and free.

But again, for someone who have no idea how to check ranking across different engines and datacenters and how to make analytical report taking your competition into consideration, this $500 a month could be reasonable. Or may be he just don't have enough time to spend on reporting.

TeenCat · 09-30-2010, 10:41 AM

mainstream seo? adult seo? gaming seo? gambling seo? fruit seo? banana seo?

FreeHugeMovies · 09-30-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A

The only "maintenance" fee should be if they are doing the link building for you as well, and even then the only "maintenance" would be after they hit your rank, they would need to "maintain" your rank as others would be trying to take the rank back from you.

Totally agree but they are charging these fees for doing NOTHING! Just google your city + SEO and look at packages.

My question is, what is some good software you can buy, co brand it to your company and send clients an overall report?

Domain Broker · 09-30-2010, 10:50 AM

maybe baddog can answer some of your questions.

Agent 488 · 09-30-2010, 10:51 AM

yes i think baddog has some experience in these matters.

LeRoy · 09-30-2010, 10:58 AM

http://www.wpromote.com/ is a good co. and they know a thing or two

FreeHugeMovies · 09-30-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

http://www.wpromote.com/ is a good co. and they know a thing or two

Did you by chance read any of this thread?

icymelon · 09-30-2010, 11:19 AM

if they aren't building you back links or pages with relevant information what seo are they providing. fixing your site to be seo optimized should be free when starting any campaign.

playa · 09-30-2010, 11:19 AM

seo is a continual process. i tell clients that it can take 6 months to a year to get good keyword rankings. thats where the monthly fee comes in. you should be getting so many backlinks and mini sites created a month with that fee.

good reporting software that many use is www.webceo.com

playa · 09-30-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

MO is when you're hiring a mainstream SEO company you will get the bare basics unless they happen to be in the same niche as you and if they are you're just a tool for them. It's something you as a webmaster should know or will need to learn. It's not hard but methodical and boring and a monkey can do it.

Anyway, the reason you never hire a mainstream SEO Company is because the smallest details can and will bring you a lot more money and traffic. SEO Companies skip these details because your account most mold into their "one size fits all" service structure.

i kinda of agree but seo is grunt work and alot of webmasters dont wanna deal with it

just dont pay for retail prices. go directly to the actual people that actually do this kinda of work.

you can get some decent filipino workers to do this stuff for about 1.50 an hour. but still you would need to know some seo and give them the proper instructions

Nicky · 09-30-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

if they aren't building you back links or pages with relevant information what seo are they providing. fixing your site to be seo optimized should be free when starting any campaign.

Shhhh don't spoil my hideous on-page SEO prices

to answer op, they probably give you a google analytics report at the end of each month lol.

Supz · 09-30-2010, 02:48 PM

A lot of SEO companies charge a monthly fee, for this charge you should still be getting some kind of service, not just get a fee for maintenance. Continuous link building/purchasing, link submissions, so on so forth. It usually doesn't take a 1 time deal to get the results you want. It is a continuous process.

$5 submissions · 10-01-2010, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

I know when I look for professional contractors, I like to go with the guys who have "Mad Cheap" as a part of the actual business name too. Something about it screams reliability...

$5 submissions · 10-01-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Supz

A lot of SEO companies charge a monthly fee, for this charge you should still be getting some kind of service, not just get a fee for maintenance. Continuous link building/purchasing, link submissions, so on so forth. It usually doesn't take a 1 time deal to get the results you want. It is a continuous process.

Exactly. Or at least linkwheels and link exchange solicitations. Complete with weekly reports and SERP updates and free strategy sessions.

Brad Gosse · 10-01-2010, 05:28 AM

One of my companies charges an ongoing fee but it includes content creation and publishing.

Nobody should charge you for on site monthly unless they are optimizing updates.

pornguy · 10-01-2010, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_E4A

The only "maintenance" fee should be if they are doing the link building for you as well, and even then the only "maintenance" would be after they hit your rank, they would need to "maintain" your rank as others would be trying to take the rank back from you.

Quoted for the Truth.

Hello Mark.

~Ray · 10-01-2010, 07:44 AM

If you get back into adult, let me know. I offer monthly verification and updates for my backlinking clients. That is the only way to grow the backlinks.

~Ray

Traf · 10-01-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

A lot of SEO company's are charging *maintenance* fees after they do their onsite SEO. So after the onsite SEO is complete they are charging you a nice $500 monthly fee for this service. They are not creating any back links for you, but charging you a fee.

Can someone please explain this to me? Is this not a massive scam? What software are they using to send their clients a monthly reports to make sure the $500 dollars they are spending has value?

Better to email them to send you reports. Also, please keep in mind that inbound links does not show immediately. it usually take take weeks or months before you will start seing inbound links pointing to your site. It is better if you setup google webmaster tools to check inbound links to your site than using any tools available online.

Domain Broker · 10-01-2010, 08:03 AM

no comment from baddog yet, not a good sign for the seo industry.

Marshal · 10-01-2010, 09:48 AM

hit me up on icq, i might have an interesting proposal backed with references...

LeRoy · 10-01-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Did you by chance read any of this thread?

eeech. Maybe I should have been more specific. Sorry bout that ;)

We hired them to do the same thing. Creating back links and some consultation. They charged us monthly but the service was completed and we're using them for other sites.

FreeHugeMovies · 10-01-2010, 11:10 AM

I'm kind of looking for SEO consulting software, things to automate reports for clients who want SEO help.

niche25 · 10-01-2010, 01:39 PM

probably paying for rented links.

FreeHugeMovies · 10-04-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

hit me up on icq, i might have an interesting proposal backed with references...

How if you don't give your ICQ number?

madawgz · 10-04-2010, 11:40 PM

good luck, i went through 5 different people who provided seo services until i said fuck it and did everything myself

spent a lot of money on these guys fml...

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pinkbits Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Every where at the moment. Posts: 367	Im looking for an seo agency to work with as i want some seo work done for some sites i have. I emailed www.madcheapseo.com/seopackage/ But the never got back to me. There site only seems to except payments. I haven't been able to contact anyone unfortunately. IF you know a place that offer seo work let me know as i am keen to start getting some work done for some of my sites.

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pinkbits Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Every where at the moment. Posts: 367	Do you of a professional outfit? Any help would be great. Thanks Angry Jew Cat

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	unfortunately not: http://www.madcheapseo.com/seopackage/ active paypal links etc.

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playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	seo is a continual process. i tell clients that it can take 6 months to a year to get good keyword rankings. thats where the monthly fee comes in. you should be getting so many backlinks and mini sites created a month with that fee. good reporting software that many use is www.webceo.com

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Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	A lot of SEO companies charge a monthly fee, for this charge you should still be getting some kind of service, not just get a fee for maintenance. Continuous link building/purchasing, link submissions, so on so forth. It usually doesn't take a 1 time deal to get the results you want. It is a continuous process.

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Domain Broker So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,427	no comment from baddog yet, not a good sign for the seo industry.

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