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Old 09-25-2010, 07:55 PM   #1
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Saturday Nite Debate: Goatee or Mutton Chops? (pics)

Personally, I'll take the "mutton chop" look over the "goatee" look any day of the week. Why? Cause any dweeboid can grow a goatee (and usually does, ick) while it takes a fucking MAN with fucking BALLS to walk around with mutton on his, um, chops. Like Mr. Neil Young, circa 1974:



Now, don't get blinded by the overt apparent "hipness" of the Goatee, it's an illusion. It may work on evil Spock:



But it's NOT cool on 99% of dudes, unless it's grown very, very long, like so:




Then it's just, you know, fucking weird, kinda like a Mohawk.
So let us celebrate the Mutton Chop! Shit, it looks even better when you multiply them, like Tribbles!

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You must have a super interesting life with debate like this on a Saturday night

But I am with you, give me some mutton chops anyday of the week!

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Not spells evil more than a goatee... Mutton chops just make ya look like one of those damn dirty hippies. Just my 2 cents...

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Nothing spells evil more than a goatee... Mutton chops just make ya look like one of those damn dirty hippies. Just my 2 cents...

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Neil Young wins over all. Doesn't matter about what his facial hair is. Neil wins.

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Another reason not to like goatees: they seem to bring out the religious nuts.
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As much as I'm a Neil Young fan - and I love the man to death - He missed the boat wih this great song:



Rock and Roll can never die? Its dead, Neil. Sorry.

P.S. Neil Young has more talent and rock and roll attitude than anyone in the last 30 years. I'll give Slash a "bye" on this, but beyond Slash, there has not been a single guitar player who's been able to keep the faith.

Even Slash has failed. Steve Vai? Carlos Santana? A joke. Rock guitar is dead.
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As much as I'm a Neil Young fan - and I love the man to death - He missed the boat wih this great song:



Rock and Roll can never die? Its dead, Neil. Sorry.

P.S. Neil Young has more talent and rock and roll attitude than anyone in the last 30 years. I'll give Slash a "bye" on this, but beyond Slash, there has not been a single guitar player who's been able to keep the faith.

Even Slash has failed. Steve Vai? Carlos Santana? A joke. Rock guitar is dead.
Qyoted for truth. I saw the Wembley show with CSNY in 1974 (on video, wasn't there sadly) and they did an electrified version of Stephen Stills 'Black Queen', all bluesy stomp and Stills WAILING on the guitar like fuckin' Hendryx taught him to. Killer amazing shit. Anything like that mind-blowing today? No. It's a fucking joke today, all distortion so no one can hear how bad the players really are.
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Neil Young wins over all. Doesn't matter about what his facial hair is. Neil wins.

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Wow - I must've been drunk when I started this thread last night. Haha! But yeah, Neil Young RULES. Ouch - hangover.
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I'll give Slash a "bye" on this, but beyond Slash, there has not been a single guitar player who's been able to keep the faith.

Even Slash has failed. Steve Vai? Carlos Santana? A joke. Rock guitar is dead.
Just heard a new song by Clapton, sounded pretty good.

Neil Young IS the man. And he's a former Winnipeg boy, double win.
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Fucking neil young is probably in the top 5 of rock guitarists. I love cortez the killer. Some bad ass work there!
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Why choose? I rocked both back in the day till I got tired of trying to keep them trimmed and even and just did a full beard.
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Why choose? I rocked both back in the day till I got tired of trying to keep them trimmed and even and just did a full beard.
No no, PompousJohn, one MUST choose! Otherwise all we'd have is the "lazy man's option": full beard. Fuck, just sit there and don't do a thing and magic presto beard-o. Now trimming and clipping? That takes attention to detail. LOL
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No no, PompousJohn, one MUST choose! Otherwise all we'd have is the "lazy man's option": full beard. Fuck, just sit there and don't do a thing and magic presto beard-o. Now trimming and clipping? That takes attention to detail. LOL
Having a full beard is a strange experience. Chicks don't check me out twice like they did when I was clean shaven or even goatie'd.

But I haven't cut my hair in over 5 years and I literally get MORE ASS from chicks who say I look like Jesus. (not the one from the big lebowski)

Also, people take me more seriously more often, I get more respect, implicit obedience from total strangers (randomly but frequently) and less debates. (in person anyway, the beard doesn't seem to effect my online interactions - strangely enough lol.)
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Doesn't a full beard and long hair just make you look a bit scruffy?
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Having a full beard is a strange experience. Chicks don't check me out twice like they did when I was clean shaven or even goatie'd.

But I haven't cut my hair in over 5 years and I literally get MORE ASS from chicks who say I look like Jesus. (not the one from the big lebowski)

Also, people take me more seriously more often, I get more respect, implicit obedience from total strangers (randomly but frequently) and less debates. (in person anyway, the beard doesn't seem to effect my online interactions - strangely enough lol.)
Well, I dig beards, too, but this is about goatees vs. mutton chops, kind of a "beard micro-niche", if you will. Beards can get you laid like tattoos can get you laid: they're both conversation-starters for the opposite sex as well as "filters". Those who dig that look will be more apt to follow-through. Again, kind of like filtered blog traffic vs. random click traffic. LOL
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Said the chcik/dude with the pink hair and ever-changing avatar. Snort.
(Scruffy gets laid three times as much as clean-shaven and 'neat', trust me.)
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It's the "Temple of Set".
Nope.

The Church of Satan was established in San Francisco, California, on Walpurgisnacht, April 30, 1966, by Anton Szandor LaVey, who was the Church's High Priest until his death in 1997.

Source: Church Of Satan

The Temple of Set was established in 1975 by Lt. Colonel of the US Army Michael A. Aquino and certain members of the priesthood of the Church of Satan.

Source: Temple of Set

I have better sources than Wikipedia, but I'm too lazy to track them down.

Plus, I've read all about it. I was big into occult/religion in my high school days.
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(Scruffy gets laid three times as much as clean-shaven and 'neat', trust me.)
Most chicks dig long hair. I've had my hair long for years, and it's always an icebreaker, as in, gets women to approach me and start playing with my hair. All I have to do is take it from there. (It should be noted that you have to have clean hair; chicks don't dig unwashed and unkept long hair on dudes.)
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Doesn't a full beard and long hair just make you look a bit scruffy?
It's about maintenance. I can look scruffy or not as I choose.
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It's about maintenance. I can look scruffy or not as I choose.

Longest I've gone w/ out shaving was about 3 weeks to a month, tops. It drives me fucking nuts! I cant keep my hands off it and it itches like crazy.
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Longest I've gone w/ out shaving was about 3 weeks to a month, tops. It drives me fucking nuts! I cant keep my hands off it and it itches like crazy.
That's what I can't handle, either: all the scratching. Fuck man, don't trim yer PUBES for a couple weeks and it's the Itchy & Scratchy Show down there but on the face it's unbearable.
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Haha! Thank you Foo! Nice one.
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Said the chcik/dude with the pink hair and ever-changing avatar. Snort.
(Scruffy gets laid three times as much as clean-shaven and 'neat', trust me.)
Always keep my hair really short.

Growing it long it goes greasy.

Growing a beard just itches.
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That's what I can't handle, either: all the scratching. Fuck man, don't trim yer PUBES for a couple weeks and it's the Itchy & Scratchy Show down there but on the face it's unbearable.
The itching stops after a little while. Right now my neck itches a lot when I don't shave that for a few days.
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Always keep my hair really short.

Growing it long it goes greasy.

Growing a beard just itches.
I kept my head shaved for 15 years, then the wife said why don't you grow it a bit, 3 years later my hair is 1/2 way down my back and my beard is impressive... she's learned to never comment again.. I don't tell her what to do.

Long beards are nice, you find yourself stroking them like a wise old man when you're pondering a question. The itchyness goes away after a while, just give it a good wash with shampoo everyday and its super soft, a good scrub with a nailbrush does wonders aswell.


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Always keep my hair really short.

Growing it long it goes greasy.

Growing a beard just itches.

Now if you were an actual girl then I'd say that's pretty hot - I like girls with short hair. LOL

Of course, being British you get a pass on the whole beard thing anyway; Brits can get away with them way better than most (think Eric Clapton).
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Selective quoting FTW.

Even George Clooney manages to look a mess with a beard.

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Shit I have both... very long goatee, and full on Irish chops, is there any hope?
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Have an inverse goatee - let everything but the goatee area grow out. If goatees are evil, then perhaps Jesus had an inverse goatee.
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