Corbin Fisher Sues Tube Site TnAFlix.com

[SteveLightspeed]

SAN DIEGO ? Calling it a "massive copyright infringer," Corbin Fisher has filed suit against Cyprus-based TnAFlix.com, which operates a tube site with both gay and straight content.

Corbin Fisher also targeted in the suit 500 TnAFlix.com members who may have uploaded copyrighted material. Those defendants are named as John Does in the suit.

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[SteveLightspeed]

thanks for getting the ball rolling CF!

[vittle]

glad to see people taking action!

[Robbie]

fuck yeah

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Cyprus-based

good luck with that.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

Cyprus-based

good luck with that.

Yep we have already heard that b.s.
Guess what...they are all paying up.

So good luck with your negativity. That and $2.00 might get you a cup of coffee.

[Alprazolam]

shit is coming in on tubes and stolen content. people can talk all the shit they want, when CF proves that the site operators uploaded that shit, theyre fucked.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Alprazolam

shit is coming in on tubes and stolen content. people can talk all the shit they want, when CF proves that the site operators uploaded that shit, theyre fucked.

They don't have to prove that. Though it would be sweet. They probably aren't gonna have to prove anything. If those thieves have a good attorney they will be settling out of court for a nice chunk of change.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep we have already heard that b.s.
Guess what...they are all paying up.

So good luck with your negativity. That and $2.00 might get you a cup of coffee.

Name one.

[minicivan]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

Name one.

"ALL"

Not one. Not two. But ALL.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Corbin Fisher also targeted in the suit 500 TnAFlix.com members who may have uploaded copyrighted material. Those defendants are named as John Does in the suit.

Will be interesting to see what comes of this part of it. The main block against neutering the tubes is proving that they themselves are uploading the infringing content. Hopefully there's some way through a legal avenue to get these supposed "rogue uploaders" to have to surface, in which case it would hopefully then become apparent that they don't exist.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

So Robbie. Do you have one or not?

[fatfoo]

That sounds serious. The tube sites that have videos of 30 minutes length amaze me. That looks like content right out of the members section.

[TheSenator]

I just exchanged hard links with the dude.

I guess I should take it down.

[marketsmart]

now we are talking.. i told you clowns that you should litigate 2 years ago and everyone cried with this excuse and that excuse...

nice to see people are finally taking action..

litigation is the way to stop the tubes in their tracks..

if enough people litigate, only the tubes with purchased content will survive, which isnt many...

the next step will be for content owners to stop doing deals with manwin and make them buy their content...

buying content plus b/w costs is a losing proposition for tubes because they will constantly need to update content to stay fresh which i dont think works out economically for tubes...





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[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

So Robbie. Do you have one or not?

Yeah, TNA Flix in the next couple of months.

No I don't have a specific one from Cyprus. But watch and learn. And remember that we all thought we were safe doing x-sells with merch accounts from Cyprus too. Look how that went...

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

now we are talking.. i told you clowns that you should litigate 2 years ago and everyone cried with this excuse and that excuse...
.

It wasn't quite like that. I was begging attorneys to go after them for me since early 2008. But every legal angle was failing. The DMCA was like a giant cock block.

But NOW, coming at it from a new angle has been working. And precedent is being set. I think a lot of it was just that judges and legal people didn't really understand what was happening.
But now EVERYBODY knows what torrents, file sharing, and tubes are.

And every judge that looks at one sees plainly what we all see....thieves monetizing other people's work. The time is exactly right for what is happening.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah, TNA Flix in the next couple of months.

No I don't have a specific one from Cyprus. But watch and learn. And remember that we all thought we were safe doing x-sells with merch accounts from Cyprus too. Look how that went...

I guess you aren't getting the point.

"suit, which was filed at U.S. District Court in San Diego."

So why would someone in Cyprus give a fuck about court in San Diego?

[BVF]

Gotdamn!...Corbin Fisher can charge $35 for only FIVE DAYS!!!....Hell yeah they should sue...

[BVF]

Plus I did a search for corbin fisher on tnaflix and nothing came up....They must have already gotten scared and taken all of their content down.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

I guess you aren't getting the point.

"suit, which was filed at U.S. District Court in San Diego."

So why would someone in Cyprus give a fuck about court in San Diego?

Because they aren't in Cyprus, they may have incorporated there but they aren't there. In the end they will slip up somewhere in their paper trail, and then they will get hammered...

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

Because they aren't in Cyprus, they may have incorporated there but they aren't there. In the end they will slip up somewhere in their paper trail, and then they will get hammered...

OK, so not in Cyprus. In Ukraine. You really think they will cave in and pay the fine. What ever.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

OK, so not in Cyprus. In Ukraine. You really think they will cave in and pay the fine. What ever.

Get over yourself, they aren't in the Ukraine either. They are US based and in the end it will come out...

[SteveLightspeed]

When there is proof that these "foreign" thieves are ignoring US laws, it will be easy to force the tier1 hosting providers to block their US traffic. Go ahead and hide in your shithole countries...

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

They are US based and in the end it will come out...

I didn't see that in the article. How do you know?

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

When there is proof that these "foreign" thieves are ignoring US laws, it will be easy to force the tier1 hosting providers to block their US traffic. Go ahead and hide in your shithole countries...

Like Pirate Bay?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

When there is proof that these "foreign" thieves are ignoring US laws, it will be easy to force the tier1 hosting providers to block their US traffic. Go ahead and hide in your shithole countries...

There is your answer FBomb.
They WILL settle. Either that or lose everything when they lose their U.S. traffic.
Plus they are openly charging people to download stolen content.

That has been the new "business model" of pirate sites lately now that advertising is drying up.

And the Pirate Bay isn't doing that. The Pirate Bay is hiding behind and pretending to be a "search engine". But their day is coming as well. Nobody has really went after them yet from these new legal angles. All the past attempts were done in a different way.

But I'm glad to see you cheering on a bunch of fucking thieves. You and gideongallery both.

[TheDoc]

Registrars will honor court orders too...

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Registrars will honor court orders too...

Bro. Don't you understand that "FBOMB" knows more than any of us. He wants thieves to win. So by God there is nothing going to stop that in his mind.

After all, they are in a...foreign country! Oh shit!

Let's wait and see what happens FBomb. And by the way....what do you do again? Oh, you don't own shit? And you have not had any dealings with having your content stolen by these fucks?

Well let me file your opinion under SHIT.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by Robbie

It wasn't quite like that. I was begging attorneys to go after them for me since early 2008. But every legal angle was failing. The DMCA was like a giant cock block.

But NOW, coming at it from a new angle has been working. And precedent is being set. I think a lot of it was just that judges and legal people didn't really understand what was happening.
But now EVERYBODY knows what torrents, file sharing, and tubes are.

And every judge that looks at one sees plainly what we all see....thieves monetizing other people's work. The time is exactly right for what is happening.

i agree, but i still think this process could have been started years ago...

i am glad it is finally happening and i hope this will set a precedent..

if the free content becomes limited, adult will flourish once again...




.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Bro. Don't you understand that "FBOMB" knows more than any of us. He wants thieves to win. So by God there is nothing going to stop that in his mind.

After all, they are in a...foreign country! Oh shit!

Let's wait and see what happens FBomb. And by the way....what do you do again? Oh, you don't own shit? And you have not had any dealings with having your content stolen by these fucks?

Well let me file your opinion under SHIT.

Idiot. Im not cheering for them, Im justtelling you how things are. You can't even name a single tube or pirate site that stteled and paid. So STFU please. I filed yours in utter shit folder.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Registrars will honor court orders too...

And thats about it. Next time the site will pop up with some chinese host and new domain.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Things will come around eventually, and then the adult industry will make it's comeback. All that needs to happen is for the ball to get rolling and for one or two laws to change regarding piracy and the wall will fall in one foul swoop. Anyone with the know-how and determination will still find and trade movies and music for free, but the open channels which have made it easy for the masses will tumble down. Which really, would go a long way towards rejuvenating the industry.

I don't agree with what ACTA proposes, but I do agree that legal channels to shut down the distributors of pirated material should be opened up.

Even if a few big players in the international scene were to enact laws like these, and could block the traffic from pirate sites, that's good enough for a start. Even if all they can cut off is US traffic from getting to pirated sites, that's opening up a huge portion of the buying traffic. And we all know if the US does it and shows some success, the UK, Canada, Australia, and propbably more from there will follow down their footsteps...

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

So I found some info on this guy from xbiz forum. The guy is Dutch and not anywhere near US jurisdiction.

I'm going to post their answer here, too (if we're getting any). However, that's the way all those fraud file-sharing sites are doing like, too. They just fake that they're removing the stolen content after having received DMCA complaints. In fact they still store the content on their servers. However, now we've definitely caught one of them "in action".

Btw., moviefap.com (another fraud file sharing site who isn't complying with any kind of DMCA compaints at all, is also owned by the letterbox company Youngtek Solutions Ltd., however, in fact they are run and hosted and manipulated by Nforce Entertainment BV, Pieter Taks, Gewenten 8,4704RD Roosendaal, NETHERLANDS

UPDATE: Pieter Taks, who had already been raided by police in a music industry copyright fraud, is well known as a Dutch pirate.

http://bracken.wordpress.com/2007/10...the-oink-raid/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QuwwMZKYxag

Peter Taks is quite obviously in charge of both of empflix and moviefap (hiding behind letter box companies and behind several teens working as straw men for him. Now he's ripping off the adult industry after he had severely failed while he was ripping off the music industry. Well, perhaps the adult industry will now send him some pretty more unfriendly people than the music industry did?

Update:
Read also about the empflix-, imagefap- and moviefap- file sharing site owner Pieter Taks here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ke-Google.html

http://www.ispam.nl/archives/12523/t...uit-nederland/
(Dutch, but translate with "google translate" into English) - Pieter Taks did also host Pirate Bay when they moved to the Netherlands.

He's also running www.torrentz.ru on his Dutch servers.

Pieter Taks is also running the website http://www.bizar-sex.com/

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Hey, the US got Canada to fork over Marc Emery, they can get any country who owes them to fork over people if they press hard enough. It all depends how strong a message they truly want to deliver and how hard they genuinely want to pursue digital piracy. If they one day decide to come at this issue with a head full of steam, shit will start happening...

It's probably a process that will take a good decade, but it will happen eventually. The sooner the better for those whose livings are made off digital content...

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Hey, the US got Canada to fork over Marc Emery, they can get any country who owes them to fork over people if they press hard enough. It all depends how strong a message they truly want to deliver and how hard they genuinely want to pursue digital piracy. If they one day decide to come at this issue with a head full of steam, shit will start happening...

It's probably a process that will take a good decade, but it will happen eventually. The sooner the better for those whose livings are made off digital content...

Oh ye, great comparison. Canadian drug dealer extradited to the US on drug charges and DEA request and Corbin VS some dutch guy. Are fucking kidding me?

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

Oh ye, great comparison. Canadian drug dealer extradited to the US on drug charges and DEA request and Corbin VS some dutch guy. Are fucking kidding me?

Like I say, it depends how hard they want to pursue it. It is a perfect comparison. They wanted Marc Emery bad enough, they got him. Simple as that. What happens if suddenly the US government decides they want to target the fuck out of digital piracy. What happens if they decide piracy is the newest threat to the American dream and the free market and take a hard line on the issue like they did with marijuana prohibition. I mean, what do they really have to do? Stick some government branch on it, and give the FTC or the FBI a massive bankroll and a mission? That's about all it boils down to. Get the media behind you, and take a hard line against pirates, chase it like fucking mad. What happens when the MPAA RIA, production studios, and industry in general starts throwing enough money the governments way? If you're a pirate and they decide to put a giant mark on your back, you best hope you're not living somewhere that owes the states a few favors...

That's all it is going to take, is for the powers to be to take a serious stand against things, and for all the rest of the countries to start stepping into line behind them.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't, and I think the recent talks regarding the ACTA should be sign enough that this is something they're willing to pursue, even if only to open avenues for other goals.

Don't be so sure the current climate regarding online piracy is going to remain this way. If anything you should be able to see plain as day that it won't. It's just a matter of when. People have openly been pushing the boundaries to the breaking point for a long time now. At the moment your opinion stands 100% valid and I agree with you, but if you think this is the way things are going to stay, you are sadly fucking mistaken. Personally I could see this going as long as a decade before anything of serious implication happens, but things ARE moving in that direction...

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Like I say, it depends how hard they want to pursue it. It is a perfect comparison. They wanted Marc Emery bad enough, they got him. Simple as that. What happens if suddenly the US government decides they want to target the fuck out of digital piracy. What happens if they decide piracy is the newest threat to the American dream and the free market and take a hard line on the issue like they did with marijuana prohibition. I mean, what do they really have to do? Stick some government branch on it, and give the FTC or the FBI a massive bankroll and a mission? That's about all it boils down to. Get the media behind you, and take a hard line against pirates, chase it like fucking mad. What happens when the MPAA RIA, production studios, and industry in general starts throwing enough money the governments way? If you're a pirate and they decide to put a giant mark on your back, you best hope you're not living somewhere that owes the states a few favors...

That's all it is going to take, is for the powers to be to take a serious stand against things, and for all the rest of the countries to start stepping into line behind them.

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't, and I think the recent talks regarding the ACTA should be sign enough that this is something they're willing to pursue, even if only to open avenues for other goals.

Don't be so sure the current climate regarding online piracy is going to remain this way. If anything you should be able to see plain as day that it won't. It's just a matter of when. People have openly been pushing the boundaries the the breaking point for a long time now. At the moment your opinion stands 100% valid and I agree with you, but if you think this is the way things are going to stay, you are sadly fucking mistaken. Personally I could see this going as long as a decade before anything of serious implication happens, but things ARE moving in that direction...

If its going to be about piracy US will go after pirates that sell software or maybe music. Not because of some gay porn.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

If its going to be about piracy US will go after pirates that sell software or maybe music. Not because of some gay porn.

Porn follows suit. It will be the music and movie industries that lead the way. Once the laws are set in place, they are available to be worked with, and porn producers will have ground to stand on when its time to action. Cause and effect my pessimistic little troll, everything action has an equal and opposite reaction. Yadda yadda yadda. Precedents are set. Once things are set in motion, there is a door open for a lot of change to take place, and it's not hard to foresee that doors that are opening already.

You are a very short-sighted, narrow minded individual though aren't you? If you think this is the way things are going to be in 10 years, you are certifiably insane. Obviously they're fucked now, but when this much money is on the line, trust me, shit will change. Money talks....

[Odin]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

When there is proof that these "foreign" thieves are ignoring US laws, it will be easy to force the tier1 hosting providers to block their US traffic. Go ahead and hide in your shithole countries...

You are always going about tier1 providers blocking traffic. Are there any actual examples of this? The Australian Government tried to introduce this here and failed completely.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

So I found some info on this guy from xbiz forum. The guy is Dutch and not anywhere near US jurisdiction.

got a link to this post?

The links in the quote are not working.

[strobi]

Cyprus has a very strict trust setup. They can move funds into the trust. And if nobody claims the money, all further claims will be discarded. Also, foreign jurisdictions cannot sue them outside of Cyprus. Will be HARD to collect money there! It's one of the safest offshore jurisdictions, even more so if you're outside the EU.

[Odin]

Oh I should add. TNAFlix originally came from PureTNA, which is owned by Daniel Oded, the same Israeli behind ThePirateBay (though he doesn't publicize that). I believe there are other partners involved, but considering how ThePirateBay is structured I doubt anyone will ever see a cent out of them.

[Davy]

Good for him.

Those 500 accounts are all fake accounts, of course.
He should have included empflix.com as well (run by the same guys).

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Fbomb

Oh ye, great comparison. Canadian drug dealer extradited to the US on drug charges and DEA request and Corbin VS some dutch guy. Are fucking kidding me?

he wasn't a drug dealer you fucking moron.

surfs up.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by PornMD

Will be interesting to see what comes of this part of it. The main block against neutering the tubes is proving that they themselves are uploading the infringing content. Hopefully there's some way through a legal avenue to get these supposed "rogue uploaders" to have to surface, in which case it would hopefully then become apparent that they don't exist.

That will be the next step. Finding out who is uploading content to these Tubes is the chink in their DMCA armour.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

now we are talking.. i told you clowns that you should litigate 2 years ago and everyone cried with this excuse and that excuse...

nice to see people are finally taking action..

litigation is the way to stop the tubes in their tracks..

if enough people litigate, only the tubes with purchased content will survive, which isnt many...

the next step will be for content owners to stop doing deals with manwin and make them buy their content...

buying content plus b/w costs is a losing proposition for tubes because they will constantly need to update content to stay fresh which i dont think works out economically for tubes...

I was saying 2 years ago the way forward is to find a way to profit or break even from suing the uploaders. And being told I didn't know what I was talking about.

Seems it's taken 2 years for some to realise the way forward.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

SAN DIEGO ? Calling it a "massive copyright infringer," Corbin Fisher has filed suit against Cyprus-based TnAFlix.com, which operates a tube site with both gay and straight content.

Corbin Fisher also targeted in the suit 500 TnAFlix.com members who may have uploaded copyrighted material. Those defendants are named as John Does in the suit.

Read the rest...

I love it.

Hey, where is Nathan? We could use his condescending insults right about now.

[Emil]

wtf, that's one of my favorite tube sites...

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Porn follows suit. It will be the music and movie industries that lead the way. Once the laws are set in place, they are available to be worked with, and porn producers will have ground to stand on when its time to action. Cause and effect my pessimistic little troll, everything action has an equal and opposite reaction. Yadda yadda yadda. Precedents are set. Once things are set in motion, there is a door open for a lot of change to take place, and it's not hard to foresee that doors that are opening already.

You are a very short-sighted, narrow minded individual though aren't you? If you think this is the way things are going to be in 10 years, you are certifiably insane. Obviously they're fucked now, but when this much money is on the line, trust me, shit will change. Money talks....

Blah blah blah. Than talk about it in 10 years. Could have, would have, should have.. What ever, dreamer.

Name me one fucking tube thats not based in us that paying on courts orders. Name one, just one !!! Or ask Robbie, he knows better.