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mlove · 09-17-2010, 06:21 AM

Things I've learned over the years:

1) Local police departments expect our technicians to explain to them the process of filing a summons.

2) Interpol's intelligence is highly exaggerated, as I've seen their techs be fooled by as little as a URL frame forwarding service.

3) Most FBI agents don't understand the concept of a proxy service

4) Nobody understands that colocation & reselling are different.

woj · 09-17-2010, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mlove

2) Interpol's intelligence is highly exaggerated, as I've seen their techs be fooled by as little as a URL frame forwarding service.

ruff · 09-17-2010, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlove

Things I've learned over the years:

1) Local police departments expect our technicians to explain to them the process of filing a summons.

2) Interpol's intelligence is highly exaggerated, as I've seen their techs be fooled by as little as a URL frame forwarding service.

3) Most FBI agents don't understand the concept of a proxy service

4) Nobody understands that colocation & reselling are different.

So it's not like in the movies?

Quence · 09-17-2010, 06:35 AM

Sucks to be SteveLightspeed.

Carmen80 · 09-17-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mlove

Things I've learned over the years:

1) Local police departments expect our technicians to explain to them the process of filing a summons.

2) Interpol's intelligence is highly exaggerated, as I've seen their techs be fooled by as little as a URL frame forwarding service.

3) Most FBI agents don't understand the concept of a proxy service

4) Nobody understands that colocation & reselling are different.

Interesting if this is really true. Do you have any other info to share?

TheDoc · 09-17-2010, 06:53 AM

Now be honest... before you read the scripted answers back to them, did you really know the answer yourself?

fatfoo · 09-17-2010, 07:04 AM

Specialized people do not understand the specializations of other people. It would take a person who knows everything to understand everybody - maybe an Emperor.

mlove · 09-17-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Carmen80

Interesting if this is really true. Do you have any other info to share?

We don't care how many times a customer gets a DMCA complaint. As long as they respond to every complaint within 48 hours, and none of them are repeat complaints, the customer will stay on our network.

We have one customer who runs an image hosting service. They've received over a thousand image complaints, many of which have been sent by one dmca agent. They're a registered service provider, and everything they do is legal.

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Originally Posted by thedoc

Now be honest... before you read the scripted answers back to them, did you really know the answer yourself?

We look into all of the complaints, and do perform checks to verify that various issues have been resolved.

GetSCORECash · 09-17-2010, 08:13 PM

Anything else you would like to add.

The Porn Nerd · 09-17-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mlove

As long as they respond to every complaint within 48 hours, and none of them are repeat complaints, the customer will stay on our network.

So what happens if some dousche does NOT comply with the DMCA? And he gets "multiple" complaints from the same party? And what if these DMCAs are not "legit", just someone fucking with another person?

You see, what disturbs me about this magical "DMCA" cure-all is what if someone says 'fuck you I ain't taking the shit down'? Then what? Everyone acts like the DMCA is a magic wand from Gandalf that will fix everything. LOL Now sure, it's easier to just take shit down (which is why everyone just does it) but what if they DIDN'T? I've always wondered.

TidalWave · 09-17-2010, 10:02 PM

Then the ISP/host gets subpoenaed for the clients information.

Then the client is sued and the host might even be sued too.

And don't tell me "you can't sue the host".
You can sue anyone you god damn please, and it will cost that person the money in lawyers fees just to drop the suit if it can be proven they are really not party to the infringement or continue to have to fight on.

So best defense for the host, is to not get sued at all, because if they do, no matter which way it goes, its going to cost lots of money.

Vick! · 09-17-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlove

Things I've learned over the years:

1) Local police departments expect our technicians to explain to them the process of filing a summons.

2) Interpol's intelligence is highly exaggerated, as I've seen their techs be fooled by as little as a URL frame forwarding service.

3) Most FBI agents don't understand the concept of a proxy service

4) Nobody understands that colocation & reselling are different.

Thanks for the info. Even though I had a slight idea that not everyone knows about computers and internet as webmasters do, but having this info verified, by someone who had experienced this personally, is nice.

Anything else you would like to share?

k0nr4d · 09-17-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

So it's not like in the movies?

Of course it is.

"Whats that ip address?"
"Zoom in. Enhance."
"Still cant see it. Let me reroute their subnet through the mainframe"

DBS.US · 09-17-2010, 11:53 PM

If someone has my IP what can it tell about me 24.24.162.251

The Porn Nerd · 09-18-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

If someone has my IP what can it tell about me 24.24.162.251

Ahahaha! Hermosa Beach! That is so ghetto. :D

MetaMan · 09-18-2010, 12:38 AM

i edited my post just in case i am being watched. -.-

GetSCORECash · 09-18-2010, 02:37 AM

Anything else?

martinsc · 09-18-2010, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Of course it is.

"Whats that ip address?"
"Zoom in. Enhance."
"Still cant see it. Let me reroute their subnet through the mainframe"

Emil · 09-18-2010, 03:14 AM

So you're saying that a FBI's computers doesn't make that cool beeping sounds when they use the backdoor to hack a computer?

Stomped · 09-18-2010, 03:21 AM

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I love this kind of stuff that shows you the incompetence inside the system

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