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Old 09-12-2010, 03:30 PM   #101
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$370 is a summary of renewal cost of all of my domains at namecheap im going to move out from them, pretty simple huh?
Lol, they make less than $2 profit per each registration, so I don't think threatening to pull your 37 domains had them shaking in their shoes.
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Old 09-12-2010, 03:57 PM   #102
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I just took a look at Namecheap's domain registration agreement - the part about spamming and phishing is pretty standard, but the "moral" part ... wow, why would anyone register names there. Glad I never did - something about Namecheap never seemed right.

With the info you just posted, it's likely you had no real alternative other than taking the content / links down as demanded, at least temporarily, and transfer the domain name away to another registrar...

Have you tried transferring out the domain? Imho, that's really the only effective recourse you have at this point.

You will need to get the authcode (I think .tv uses them too) and get the domain unlocked. However, because .TV is a ccTLD, ICANN transfer out policy will be of no help - hence, it's possible Namecheap may refuse to facilitate a transfer out request.

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Domain Name: LILOO.TV
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DUMMYSECONDARY.PLEASECONTACTSUPPORT.COM
Name Server: BLOCKEDFORABUSE.PLEASECONTACTSUPPORT.COM
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status means it locked for client's transfer, now only registrar can do it.
i've found out not so long time ago that enom is fucking criminals ripping people for millions with their namejet scam, but namecheap promo spam on boards few years ago got me deceived back then so i created my account there. i remember long ass threads here on gfy and people were saying namecheap is top notch and shit loads of recomendation topics was fulled with suggestion to go with namecheap.
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Sam Ozborn, if namecheap blocked your domain, was becaue you were DIRTY... they don't do this often, like godaddy...

so, you were obviously pushing the limits.. and you know it.

How much were you doing with that site?

Im sure you were doing a lot of money and it was pushing the limits and taking money from us, honest webmasters... and that sucks, dude.

seriously.

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Old 09-12-2010, 04:01 PM   #104
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Lol, they make less than $2 profit per each registration, so I don't think threatening to pull your 37 domains had them shaking in their shoes.
i know, but this thread hopefully will expose this lame middle men so they will lose much more.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:06 PM   #105
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how young were the clothed girls that you had on your site?

why would you put girls, clothed or not, that looked very young on your site?

i have a feeling based on everything you have shared here that you put some very young clothed girls on your site along with some very young anime and you chose the youngest looking models from different teen programs..

if the above is the case then lets call a spade a spade and you know what you were doing and the crowd you were catering to...




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i dont really know if they didn't like hentai or non nude as they didn't even mention it. all they did is they sent me links to legal galleries and i sent them links to relative 2257, few hours later i got my domain suspended.

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Old 09-12-2010, 04:12 PM   #106
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Don't blame eNom on this one ... Namecheap is a domain reseller using eNom as their registration platform. Guess that explains why Namecheap's registration terms and practices are often more aggressive than that of many registrars.

First, research what registrar(s) will allow you to transfer it into (for ccTLDs, transfers are often more restrictive that of gTLDs), then contact Namecheap and get the domain unlocked / authcode ... if no good, contact eNom directly for assistance regarding transfer out.

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Old 09-12-2010, 04:24 PM   #107
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Don't blame eNom on this one ... Namecheap is a domain reseller using eNom as their registration platform. Guess that explains why Namecheap's registration terms and practices are often more aggressive than that of many registrars.

First, research what registrar(s) will allow you to transfer it into (for ccTLDs, transfers are often more restrictive that of gTLDs), then contact Namecheap and get the domain unlocked / authcode ... if no good, contact eNom directly for assistance regarding transfer out.

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Namecheap has been Icann accredited since Dec/07, they are not an enom reseller and are not using their platform. You guys are focusing too much on namecheap here, do some research and you'll find that this isn't the first time this guy's been accused of questionable content. I have several hundred adult domains with namecheap and I have many colleagues who do so also and none of us have had any issues related to content. I'm sure they didn't take action after just one complaint.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:34 PM   #108
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Don't blame eNom on this one ... Namecheap is a domain reseller using eNom as their registration platform. Guess that explains why Namecheap's registration terms and practices are often more aggressive than that of many registrars.

First, research what registrar(s) will allow you to transfer it into (for ccTLDs, transfers are often more restrictive that of gTLDs), then contact Namecheap and get the domain unlocked / authcode ... if no good, contact eNom directly for assistance regarding transfer out.

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i don't blame enom here, i was just saying that go with reseller of enom was a bad idea to begin with despite all good feedback on namecheap at that time.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:45 PM   #109
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do some research and you'll find that this isn't the first time this guy's been accused of questionable content.
your talking out of your ass or you got some links to back it up?
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I have several hundred adult domains with namecheap and I have many colleagues who do so also and none of us have had any issues related to content. I'm sure they didn't take action after just one complaint.
there were not a single complaint against my domain, i was changing my host record and their dns server failed to update it, so i contacted live chat and wrote a ticket, that putted my site into their lame spotlight and they acted retarded.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:53 PM   #110
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Namecheap has been Icann accredited since Dec/07, they are not an enom reseller and are not using their platform. You guys are focusing too much on namecheap here, do some research and you'll find that this isn't the first time this guy's been accused of questionable content. I have several hundred adult domains with namecheap and I have many colleagues who do so also and none of us have had any issues related to content. I'm sure they didn't take action after just one complaint.
You are wrong, it's true that namecheap is icann accredited registrar, BUT...

...they are still working as enom resellers, i recently transfered in some domains and each and every domain i have there is under Enom, older and newer domains. (My newest addition was in June'10, recent enough)

What are they doing with their ICANN accreditation? Don't know, but obviously not managing liloo.tv, .tv registry says is under Enom.
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:04 PM   #111
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Namecheap are definitely still ENOM resellers and on their platform. Look at any new namecheap domain registration whois info:

Registrar: ENOM, INC.
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Namecheap has been Icann accredited since Dec/07, they are not an enom reseller and are not using their platform. You guys are focusing too much on namecheap here, do some research and you'll find that this isn't the first time this guy's been accused of questionable content. I have several hundred adult domains with namecheap and I have many colleagues who do so also and none of us have had any issues related to content. I'm sure they didn't take action after just one complaint.
Yes, namecheap is ICANN accredited.

They are, however, still using Enom's reseller services until their backend is ready. Was supposed to happen last year but they're not going to move over until everything is ready.
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:39 PM   #114
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Yes, namecheap is ICANN accredited.

They are, however, still using Enom's reseller services until their backend is ready. Was supposed to happen last year but they're not going to move over until everything is ready.
Yeah I knew they didn't transition over immediately after getting accredited, but as you said I was told last year that they were making the move over to their own platform and would no longer be resellers. Guess the question is, I understand there is a lot of administrative and backend work to be done, but why would it take them 3 years to transition over?
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namecheap was accreditated as registrar on 2006-03-21 for this zones: .COM, .NET, .ORG, .BIZ, .INFO, .NAME, .PRO
other zones they register thru enom, but this is not that important.

they suspended my domain becouse they didn't like my 2257 compilant galleries, this is sick and pretty much illegal.
so, be aware of their service.

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maybe you can share also 2257 of the deleted nn and hentai links?
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From what I have seen of your site, (which is not a great deal) I can possibly see why there might be some concerns (at first glance) because of the composition.

However, I also think that what you had - albeit 'questionable' (your words) content - was legal 2257 compliant where applicable.

Perhaps if you had been less short with them, they may not have suspended you? But on the 2257 side. I dont think they should have.

I have seen some of that stuff before... But just not all together. But anyway, thats just my opinion. I am not standing in judgement, based on the little I have seen...
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how young were the clothed girls that you had on your site?

why would you put girls, clothed or not, that looked very young on your site?

i have a feeling based on everything you have shared here that you put some very young clothed girls on your site along with some very young anime and you chose the youngest looking models from different teen programs..

if the above is the case then lets call a spade a spade and you know what you were doing and the crowd you were catering to...


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Isnt that the defacto standard around here? Most of those submit your GF sites contain the most questionable shit and nobody seems to give a fuck. I remember back in the day if these sites were up, people would be calling them out left and right.

That's a good sign right there this industry is in the shitter. Nobody cares as long as their is a buck to be made.



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They don't offer you the option of remove the "questionale content"
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It's not the first time they did this.
I have seen them close/disable more domains because the girls 'seemed' young. No proof what so-ever.

Obviously not a good place to register any adult domains.
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also the site was hosted in a DUTCH server...

nothing with dutch servers, but, we all know some sites are hosted outside usa for a very good reason...

well, you just ignored my message above... you could quote and answer me.. but just ignored, i guess namecheap had a very good reason to do this.

how much money were you doing per month with this site SAM? 5K? 10K?

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nothing with dutch servers, but, we all know some sites are hosted outside usa for a very good reason...
Because some people live outside the USA?

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i guess namecheap had a very good reason to do this.
Since the Namecheap representative specifically states their belief that the content is CP, and that the girls are "obviously less than 18 old", why did Namecheap effectively 'conspire' with their customer to remove it? They should have quietly reported the potentially illegal material to the relevant law enforcement agencies for them to examine and investigate.

What are they going to show missingkids.com now? A domain name?

I can't understand why companies or individuals place themselves at legal liability, and potentially hinder criminal investigations, by trying to do the police's job for them.

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How much were you doing with that site?

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Im sure you were doing a lot of money

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taking money from us
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how much money were you doing per month with this site SAM? 5K? 10K?
Seems like this is your real objection to the guy, rather that the content of his site.
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If anyone hasnt figured this out yet...

Namecheap is a bunch of whiny bitches... As stated above... dont use anything but moniker.
Moniker suspended a domain of mine without any notice.

I only discovered by accident because someone showed me the suspension email they received from godaddy, and to my surprise my domain was listed there.

Moniker only acknowledged suspending the domain after I opened a ticket asking what was going on.

Registrars playing net cop... bad, bad, bad.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=951304
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Moniker suspended a domain of mine without any notice.

I only discovered by accident because someone showed me the suspension email they received from godaddy, and to my surprise my domain was listed there.

Moniker only acknowledged suspending the domain after I opened a ticket asking what was going on.

Registrars playing net cop... bad, bad, bad.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=951304
moniker sucks,just transferred all my domains from there

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Hey is namecheap part of aplus.net ?

I have some domains regged there and im sure the statement comes up as names cheap?
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[QUOTE=helterskelter808;17496865]Because some people live outside the USA?

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FAKE NICK, and ALTER EGO.

Show your face, coward.

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also the site was hosted in a DUTCH server...

nothing with dutch servers, but, we all know some sites are hosted outside usa for a very good reason...
Dutch bandwidth can be cheaper than us bandwidth, i keep servers in other countries for no specific reason other than pricing as long as the provider gives reasonable quality on their services
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Hey guys,

I just want to clarify a few things here. First off, to those that suggest we proactively disable domains due to "moral" reasons it is completely untrue. We are one of the biggest advocates for neutrality when it comes to registrations. The one subject we do not mess around with though is child pornography. That is the ONLY subject where I have instructed our staff to take immediate action when it is obviously a child being depicted. I'm not talking about teen looking girls here that can be borderline. They have been told it MUST be obvious. Any other subject we try to stay neutral with and require proof before we take any action and even then, the client is warned first to remove or transfer the domain before anything would happen to their domain.

So pretty much if you're thinking about getting into the child pornography business, don't register your domains with us. Anything else that's adult and legal, goes and I can clearly state 100% you will not have any issues with EVER.

If you have any other questions or need further clarifications on our policies please let me know and I will be happy to answer them.


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Hey guys,

I just want to clarify a few things here. First off, to those that suggest we proactively disable domains due to "moral" reasons it is completely untrue. We are one of the biggest advocates for neutrality when it comes to registrations. The one subject we do not mess around with though is child pornography. That is the ONLY subject where I have instructed our staff to take immediate action when it is obviously a child being depicted. I'm not talking about teen looking girls here that can be borderline. They have been told it MUST be obvious. Any other subject we try to stay neutral with and require proof before we take any action and even then, the client is warned first to remove or transfer the domain before anything would happen to their domain.

So pretty much if you're thinking about getting into the child pornography business, don't register your domains with us. Anything else that's adult and legal, goes and I can clearly state 100% you will not have any issues with EVER.

If you have any other questions or need further clarifications on our policies please let me know and I will be happy to answer them.


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Hi Richard,

One question to you.
The OP of this thread showed you 2257 documents for each of the questionable galleries.

In other words they've looked below 18 yo, but at the end proof was given that they where +18

Still you suspended his domain.


I'm waiting for your answer.
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Hey guys,

I just want to clarify a few things here. First off, to those that suggest we proactively disable domains due to "moral" reasons it is completely untrue. We are one of the biggest advocates for neutrality when it comes to registrations. The one subject we do not mess around with though is child pornography. That is the ONLY subject where I have instructed our staff to take immediate action when it is obviously a child being depicted. I'm not talking about teen looking girls here that can be borderline. They have been told it MUST be obvious. Any other subject we try to stay neutral with and require proof before we take any action and even then, the client is warned first to remove or transfer the domain before anything would happen to their domain.

So pretty much if you're thinking about getting into the child pornography business, don't register your domains with us. Anything else that's adult and legal, goes and I can clearly state 100% you will not have any issues with EVER.

If you have any other questions or need further clarifications on our policies please let me know and I will be happy to answer them.


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Look Richard, I love your service and I have lots of domains registered at namecheap but I think your guys made a mistake.

Myself I would never do a site with "borderline" girls (girls who look below 18 y.o) cause for me it gives "the idea" that the site promotes cp ...

For moral reasons I'm not intrested in that "niche". Even when it is 100% legal.

BUT ...

If all 2257 documents are perfectly ok, then so be it.

In this case I think your guys overreacted and didn't look at any of the given documents (proof) at all.

Richard, do us a favor. Look into it again and make things right.

Best,

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Look Richard, I love your service and I have lots of domains registered at namecheap but I think your guys made a mistake.

Myself I would never do a site with "borderline" girls (girls who look below 18 y.o) cause for me it gives "the idea" that the site promotes cp ...

For moral reasons I'm not intrested in that "niche". Even when it is 100% legal.

BUT ...

If all 2257 documents are perfectly ok, then so be it.

In this case I think your guys overreacted and didn't look at any of the given documents (proof) at all.

Richard, do us a favor. Look into it again and make things right.

Best,

Actually, I'm looking at this now and I instructed our legal department handling this to study the documents and restore the domain if deemed legal.
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Actually, I'm looking at this now and I instructed our legal department handling this to study the documents and restore the domain if deemed legal.
Richard,

Admitting that you're wrong is not always an easy thing to do.

It show " A LOT" about you and your company mate.

My hat goes off to you.


Ofcourse I'm not saying his domain need to be restored when his documents do not show that all is 100% legal. But seems he was 100% sure about his case so ..

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Actually, I'm looking at this now and I instructed our legal department handling this to study the documents and restore the domain if deemed legal.
... after a week ....?!
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... after a week ....?!
Unfortunately, I just saw this thread today so I've been trying to catch up on the situation as I do not handle day to day support issues myself.

From reading the support ticket, documents where neither provided, offered or was it even stated that they existed. We also gave the person 24 hrs(warned twice) to remove the content before we even disbaled the domain. Maybe the OP might like to clarify these rather important facts they left out?


Either way the ticket was re-opened and proper documents requested by our legal team.

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... after a week ....?!
Yeah, as a Namecheap customer, that part, in addition to the 2257 docs seemingly being ignored, is pretty disturbing.
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What country is their live support farmed out to?
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Yeah, as a Namecheap customer, that part, in addition to the 2257 docs seemingly being ignored, is pretty disturbing.
Selena, please read my post just above yours. Nothing was ignored as nothing was provided.

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Domain Broker, we have offices in both Europe and the US and none of our support is "farmed out". Every single person that works for us is a full time salaried NameCheap employee.

If you take a look around or Google us, we have one of if not the best reputations for providing quality customer support.

In fact, I'm posting here now because I/we care about your business and our reputation with you so I want to clarify our position in these matters.

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Selena, please read my post just above yours. Nothing was ignored as nothing was provided.
You are correct, it was poor wording on my part. No docs were provided, 2257 links were, according to the OP.

From the support tickets, your rep said that the following links contained "obvious" cp.

http://www.liloo.tv/random/mix/Teen_Filipina
http://www.liloo.tv/random/mix/lovely-teen-porno
http://www.liloo.tv/random/mix/flexibecky
http://www.liloo.tv/random/mix/albina-poses-nude


The OP provided your rep with the corresponding sponsor 2257 links:

http://www.teenfilipina.com/2257.htm
http://www.exclusiveteenporn.com/verify.html
http://8teenies.com/2257.htm
http://my18teens.com/2257.html

While I did not see the galleries in question, I did go to the tour of each paysite. I didn't see anything on any of the tours that I would call questionable CP, let alone "obvious".

What is your process in determining what constitutes obvious CP? And is that up to the interpretation of a single individual who can shut a site down?
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Sooooo.. Any updates to this drama?
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I've read that SEDO no longer lists adult domains with the word 'teen' in them.
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I just want to clarify a few things here. First off, to those that suggest we proactively disable domains due to "moral" reasons it is completely untrue. We are one of the biggest advocates for neutrality when it comes to registrations. The one subject we do not mess around with though is child pornography. That is the ONLY subject where I have instructed our staff to take immediate action when it is obviously a child being depicted. I'm not talking about teen looking girls here that can be borderline. They have been told it MUST be obvious. Any other subject we try to stay neutral with and require proof before we take any action and even then, the client is warned first to remove or transfer the domain before anything would happen to their domain.

So pretty much if you're thinking about getting into the child pornography business, don't register your domains with us. Anything else that's adult and legal, goes and I can clearly state 100% you will not have any issues with EVER.

If you have any other questions or need further clarifications on our policies please let me know and I will be happy to answer them.


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Richard excellent message, man! Thanks for the clarification, your service is top notch!

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Hey guys,

I just want to clarify a few things here. First off, to those that suggest we proactively disable domains due to "moral" reasons it is completely untrue. We are one of the biggest advocates for neutrality when it comes to registrations. The one subject we do not mess around with though is child pornography. That is the ONLY subject where I have instructed our staff to take immediate action when it is obviously a child being depicted. I'm not talking about teen looking girls here that can be borderline. They have been told it MUST be obvious. Any other subject we try to stay neutral with and require proof before we take any action and even then, the client is warned first to remove or transfer the domain before anything would happen to their domain.

So pretty much if you're thinking about getting into the child pornography business, don't register your domains with us. Anything else that's adult and legal, goes and I can clearly state 100% you will not have any issues with EVER.

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Richard,

Having a few domains disabled by you that have nothing to do with Porn at all, I can definitely say you are full of shit, and that part about warning before you take them down? That's also horseshit.

Lie all you want, but your statement is false.
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Having a few domains disabled by you that have nothing to do with Porn at all, I can definitely say you are full of shit, and that part about warning before you take them down? That's also horseshit.

Lie all you want, but your statement is false.
show some examples or you are the one that is full of the shit from horses....

why would your domains get taken down for nothing?

i am smelling the horse again my friend.....




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show some examples or you are the one that is full of the shit from horses....

why would your domains get taken down for nothing?

i am smelling the horse again my friend.....




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Why bother explaining it further... They don't cost me money no more. I don't want to sound like horseshit, but at this point I only care enough to chime in and bitch, a little thank you if you will, for their 'good' service to me.

FYI, I didn't start this thread, HOWEVER its obvious there are numerous people that have problems with them.

The real problem with Namecheap isn't that they ban domains, thats their prerogative. the problem is that they ban domains w/o warning.

Seriously, anyone could call up namecheap say someone is spamming or hosting CP and your domain would get shut off. They don't get proof on their own, they get it from hearsay.
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