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				Who else has business's other than this Industry?
			 
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			Started this business in early 96' but around 1999-2000, I slowly started doing other stuff as long as I could manage them from our main offices. Anything that had to do with actually being there, I wouldn't take up. Since this is my pride and joy, this business always has and always will come first. Anyone else? 
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		 Pretty much everyone I know has at least one "mainstream" project going on... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Years back I was part owner in a drafting school, software sales company and a mainstream host. Lesson learned was, don't let other partners have control of money. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Today I have a few small things going, store products and online, some ebooks, small time local marketing stuff... Nothing that could over take over as a job, but for sure growing income streams either way. Adult Services is without question my bread winner. 
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		 I have two offline businesses. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Congrats on the other ventures though, any other income is still income. Also gives you a little mental break. 
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		 Owned commercial properties up until 2 years ago. The economy got so bad that we lost all out tenants (small business owners) as they went out of business and I lost about a half million dollars in a blood bath. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Most of my work is mainstream these days.  If I was looking for work in this industry, we'd be sharing the same cardboard box. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I've had mainstream sites since the late 90's. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I also own rental property, since the early-to-mid 90's. All of it still chugging along nicely. 
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 It's crazy, because everyone talks about the home crises, but nobody talks about how hard the Commercial market is getting hit. 
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 The properties were in the middle of a nice business district. When the economy tanked it seemed that 75% of the small business around closed up shop. Shit happens. Fortunately I made enough money in adult to pay for that whole fiasco. And I learned my lesson about stretching myself too thin. My grandfather (made millions in the citrus industry in Fla.) passed away a couple of months ago at the age of 91. And one of the pieces of advice he gave me over the years was: "If you try to do two things at once you'll only do them half as good" He was right.  | 
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		 bbq is the new porn 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Not everyone that is good enough to run a business have the capital to start it. 
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 You must of got some kind of write off. Don't let that scare you, real estate is a great investment. You had a bad experience with that one, will just make you think twice about the next one. But don't give up on it. 
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 I agree though, I've seen people on the boards, then they disappear, then they come back 7-10 years later to promote their old product again. This is a great business, why not just stay in it for the long run. 
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		 I also have an small seccond hand cars lot only luxury cars its making decent income 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 You would have to be a fool not to diversify, it will just get harder and harder to make a buck in this industry.. why fight an uphill battle, when there are ton of mainstream opportunities out there? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Unless somebody has something SPECIFIC and not all these generalized urban legend hearsay statements...then I still say that a smart motivated person will make 100 times more money in porn than in "mainstream". Especially if you are starting out with little or no startup money. I started back in the day with zero start up money. And made millions with that non-investment. You tell me even one mainstream opportunity that could have done that for me.  | 
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		 In the past couple weeks I have been asked by someone in mainstream to build them an adult network and someone in adult to build them a mainstream network. Both people thinking their is more money in something they are not doing. Grass is always greener I guess. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I started fall of 06 and by fall of 07 had an opportunity to start a smallish warehousing and trucking business. My family had been in trucking the whole time I was a kid so I was familar and jumped on it with my new found porn money. So since Jan of 08 I've had an offline business that my wife and brother run. However myself personally have continued busting ass and growing my adult business. Last two years I've paid myself nothing from the offline business so it can be on steroids in a sense gaining steam and paying it's debt off asap. Mean time I brought on 2 full time adult team members and we bust out huge amounts of work and all the while the offline company is getting more and more healthy since I was able to piggy back off my adult money. Thinking in the next year after offline biz debt is all gone that the two together should be pretty damn nice. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	Adult for life though. I owe ALOT to this game and it still treats me very well. One of those you get out of it what you put in sorta things. Still zero mainstream holdings at this point and although my eyes are always open, it's doubtful I'll explore MS anytime soon unless I can eventually afford to hire more team and do it up right. edit* When I started I had 100 bucks to invest and that is ALL. What other industry can you go from poor with 100 dollar investment and get to making thousands to tens of thousands to hundreds. Im forever greatful myself. You all should be too.  | 
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		 I had a courier business for about 4 months until my business partner got some girl I was fucking knocked up and disappeared. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Yes I have a mainstream business online and a mainstream business offline in my local city. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	3 years ago all my income came from adult, but not anymore... started diversifiny 1 year ago... only a part of my income comes from xbiz now... .  | 
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 FOREX is very similar to gamble, despite that some people talk about technical analysis, fundamental analysis, priceacton, etc... The fact is that 95% of people lose money on forex and this is not my stats... the stats of 95% are claimed by the very same BROKERS... .  | 
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		 I own a gym in phuket www.naiharngym.com and also a small burger joint 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Mainstream has made many more millionaires than porn ever will.  | 
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		 If anyone wants to diversify into mainstream, let me know.  I can help you diversify for cheap and also help you avoid some common pitfalls. [email protected] 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I can help any of you diversify to mainstream, I am a supplier of pet turtles (azatic) , aquarium supplies, and reptile and animal feed. All sales refered have a 5% commission rate. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	You can order turtles by the bulk, around $5 each and resell them for $15 online. Aquarium supplies , around $15 for the turtle bowl, you can resell for $45. You do have to pay shipping from my warehouse which is a flat rate of $80 per shipment. A startup wholesaller package is $895, includes: 70 turtles 10 Circular bowls 20 bags of turtle feed. Shipment is $80, total = $985 ========= any requests pm me. thanks  | 
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