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  • Semi-Retired-Dave
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2004
    • 11190
    #1

    Who else has business's other than this Industry?

    Or are all your eggs in Porn?

    Started this business in early 96' but around 1999-2000, I slowly started doing other
    stuff as long as I could manage them from our main offices. Anything that had to do with actually being there, I wouldn't take up.

    Since this is my pride and joy, this business always has and always will come first.

    Anyone else?
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    • sperbonzo
      I'd rather be on my boat.
      • May 2003
      • 9750
      #2
      Pretty much everyone I know has at least one "mainstream" project going on...


      .
      Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

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        • TheDoc
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 13827
          #3
          Years back I was part owner in a drafting school, software sales company and a mainstream host. Lesson learned was, don't let other partners have control of money.

          Today I have a few small things going, store products and online, some ebooks, small time local marketing stuff... Nothing that could over take over as a job, but for sure growing income streams either way.

          Adult Services is without question my bread winner.
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            • IllTestYourGirls
              Ah My Balls
              • Feb 2007
              • 14311
              #4
              I have two offline businesses.

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                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 11190
                  #5
                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                  Years back I was part owner in a drafting school, software sales company and a mainstream host. Lesson learned was, don't let other partners have control of money.

                  Today I have a few small things going, store products and online, some ebooks, small time local marketing stuff... Nothing that could over take over as a job, but for sure growing income streams either way.

                  Adult Services is without question my bread winner.
                  Business partners are like marriages, they either work or they don't. I've been fortunate. I've had the same business partner for over 20 years. But most stories I have heard about business partners is that they simply don't work.

                  Congrats on the other ventures though, any other income is still income. Also gives you a little mental break.
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                    • Robbie
                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20960
                      #6
                      Owned commercial properties up until 2 years ago. The economy got so bad that we lost all out tenants (small business owners) as they went out of business and I lost about a half million dollars in a blood bath.

                      Think I'll stick to adult from now on. All that stuff outside adult only cost me money the entire time I had it. Adult just makes money with low overhead.
                      -Robbie
                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                        • GrouchyAdmin
                          Now choke yourself!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12085
                          #7
                          Most of my work is mainstream these days. If I was looking for work in this industry, we'd be sharing the same cardboard box.

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                            • CDSmith
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                              • May 2001
                              • 51460
                              #8
                              I've had mainstream sites since the late 90's.

                              I also own rental property, since the early-to-mid 90's.

                              All of it still chugging along nicely.
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                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 11190
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                  Owned commercial properties up until 2 years ago. The economy got so bad that we lost all out tenants (small business owners) as they went out of business and I lost about a half million dollars in a blood bath.

                                  Think I'll stick to adult from now on. All that stuff outside adult only cost me money the entire time I had it. Adult just makes money with low overhead.
                                  Man that sucks, don't you get a killer write off when you can't rent them out? What if you were to rent them out for a lot less? Was it in a bad location?

                                  It's crazy, because everyone talks about the home crises, but nobody talks about how hard the Commercial market is getting hit.
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                                    • Robbie
                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 20960
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                      Man that sucks, don't you get a killer write off when you can't rent them out? What if you were to rent them out for a lot less? Was it in a bad location?

                                      It's crazy, because everyone talks about the home crises, but nobody talks about how hard the Commercial market is getting hit.
                                      No. No. And No. lol

                                      The properties were in the middle of a nice business district. When the economy tanked it seemed that 75% of the small business around closed up shop.

                                      Shit happens. Fortunately I made enough money in adult to pay for that whole fiasco. And I learned my lesson about stretching myself too thin.

                                      My grandfather (made millions in the citrus industry in Fla.) passed away a couple of months ago at the age of 91. And one of the pieces of advice he gave me over the years was: "If you try to do two things at once you'll only do them half as good"

                                      He was right.
                                      -Robbie
                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635
                                          #11
                                          Nope. I have business outside of adult.

                                          Have been diversifying for 2-3 years now. Both on, and off, line.

                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                          My grandfather (made millions in the citrus industry in Fla.) passed away a couple of months ago at the age of 91. And one of the pieces of advice he gave me over the years was: "If you try to do two things at once you'll only do them half as good"

                                          He was right.
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                                            • the alchemist
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                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 3271
                                              #12
                                              I do private hosting and have some mainstream gaming sites.
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                                                • BradShaw
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                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 7840
                                                  #13
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                                                    • CIVMatt
                                                      Amateur Pimpin
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 13075
                                                      #14
                                                      More mainsteam stuff going on then adult now, also offline businesses
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                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
                                                          Ah My Balls
                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                          • 14311
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                          My grandfather (made millions in the citrus industry in Fla.) passed away a couple of months ago at the age of 91. And one of the pieces of advice he gave me over the years was: "If you try to do two things at once you'll only do them half as good"

                                                          He was right.
                                                          Thats why you higher people who are good at the business to run it for you

                                                          Not everyone that is good enough to run a business have the capital to start it.

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                                                            • Stephen
                                                              Consigliere
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 1771
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                              Shit happens.
                                                              Another good question is who had business outside of adult?

                                                              Lots of folks took their porn money and invested in all sorts of schemes, stocks, real estate and more, hoping to diversify their holdings and increase their earnings -- and have had their ass handed to them over the past two years as a result.

                                                              How many of you went to the "greener grass" of mainstream only to come back to porn?

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                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                  • 11190
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                  No. No. And No. lol

                                                                  The properties were in the middle of a nice business district. When the economy tanked it seemed that 75% of the small business around closed up shop.

                                                                  Shit happens. Fortunately I made enough money in adult to pay for that whole fiasco. And I learned my lesson about stretching myself too thin.

                                                                  My grandfather (made millions in the citrus industry in Fla.) passed away a couple of months ago at the age of 91. And one of the pieces of advice he gave me over the years was: "If you try to do two things at once you'll only do them half as good"

                                                                  He was right.
                                                                  Grampa had a great saying, I like that. So true. You always make the most money in the one you give 110% to.

                                                                  You must of got some kind of write off.

                                                                  Don't let that scare you, real estate is a great investment. You had a bad experience with that one, will just make you think twice about the next one. But don't give up on it.
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                                                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 11190
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Stephen
                                                                      Another good question is who had business outside of adult?

                                                                      Lots of folks took their porn money and invested in all sorts of schemes, stocks, real estate and more, hoping to diversify their holdings and increase their earnings -- and have had their ass handed to them over the past two years as a result.

                                                                      How many of you went to the "greener grass" of mainstream only to come back to porn?
                                                                      Grass is never greener if you are making a healthy living. Everything I have done outside this industry has been a hobby to me, and I treat it as a hobby. I would never focus outside the business that has been the most successful.

                                                                      I agree though, I've seen people on the boards, then they disappear, then they come back 7-10 years later to promote their old product again. This is a great business, why not just stay in it for the long run.
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                                                                        • CHARGER
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                                                                          • Aug 2009
                                                                          • 551
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I also have an small seccond hand cars lot only luxury cars its making decent income
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                                                                            • 429mg
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                                                                              • Jul 2010
                                                                              • 151
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I do have one offline business (logistics company) next to my online ventures
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                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 47882
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  You would have to be a fool not to diversify, it will just get harder and harder to make a buck in this industry.. why fight an uphill battle, when there are ton of mainstream opportunities out there?
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                                                                                    • Robbie
                                                                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                      You would have to be a fool not to diversify, it will just get harder and harder to make a buck in this industry.. why fight and uphill battle, when there are ton of mainstream opportunities out there?
                                                                                      That's weird...cause I'm watching the news showing record unemployment and companies closing left and right and govt. bailouts, etc.

                                                                                      Where is this paradise of "mainstream" opportunities and why doesn't the stock market or the business community know anything about it? Maybe they should read GFY? Apparently the "mainstream" economy is booming!
                                                                                      -Robbie
                                                                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 42635
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                          Where is this paradise of "mainstream" opportunities and why doesn't the stock market or the business community know anything about it? Maybe they should read GFY? Apparently the "mainstream" economy is booming!
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                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 47882
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                              That's weird...cause I'm watching the news showing record unemployment and companies closing left and right and govt. bailouts, etc.

                                                                                              Where is this paradise of "mainstream" opportunities and why doesn't the stock market or the business community know anything about it? Maybe they should read GFY? Apparently the "mainstream" economy is booming!
                                                                                              difference is mainstream will recover one day, adult will likely continue going downhill..
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                                                                                                • sperbonzo
                                                                                                  I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 9750
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                  That's weird...cause I'm watching the news showing record unemployment and companies closing left and right and govt. bailouts, etc.

                                                                                                  Where is this paradise of "mainstream" opportunities and why doesn't the stock market or the business community know anything about it? Maybe they should read GFY? Apparently the "mainstream" economy is booming!
                                                                                                  If you don't think that there are plenty of people making plenty of money in entrepreneurial projects then you are very mistaken. Actually, in the last 6 months I have seen a huge upswing in the amount of VC and Angel investment money available, and projects getting funded left and right. Sure the big established industries are in trouble, but you come up with the right new technology opportunity right now, and there is private funding ready to throw money at it.


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                                                                                                  Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                                                  [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

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                                                                                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                                      • 11190
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                                      If you don't think that there are plenty of people making plenty of money in entrepreneurial projects then you are very mistaken. Actually, in the last 6 months I have seen a huge upswing in the amount of VC and Angel investment money available, and projects getting funded left and right. Sure the big established industries are in trouble, but you come up with the right new technology opportunity right now, and there is private funding ready to throw money at it.


                                                                                                      .
                                                                                                      yes, I agree. As it seems the Economy has tanked. There are people out there making millions. We just don't see it because we are on GFY most of the day.
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                                                                                                        • Loch
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                          • 7674
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Im expanding in mainstream and have been for a while
                                                                                                          Add work and TV shows

                                                                                                          But its a long road though very interesting and challenging

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                                                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                                              If you don't think that there are plenty of people making plenty of money in entrepreneurial projects then you are very mistaken. Actually, in the last 6 months I have seen a huge upswing in the amount of VC and Angel investment money available, and projects getting funded left and right. Sure the big established industries are in trouble, but you come up with the right new technology opportunity right now, and there is private funding ready to throw money at it.


                                                                                                              .
                                                                                                              When you say "plenty" you may be right in numbers. But absolutely wrong in percentages of people. There are always a handful of folks making money on any given situation. But that has jack dick to do with the insinuation that "mainstream" is kicking ass and porn just can't keep up. I'll guarantee you I make more money even now in porn in one week than 99.9% of people in "mainstream" make in a month. The money opportunity, payouts, and recurring billing are all superior in adult to mainstream.

                                                                                                              Unless somebody has something SPECIFIC and not all these generalized urban legend hearsay statements...then I still say that a smart motivated person will make 100 times more money in porn than in "mainstream". Especially if you are starting out with little or no startup money.

                                                                                                              I started back in the day with zero start up money. And made millions with that non-investment. You tell me even one mainstream opportunity that could have done that for me.
                                                                                                              -Robbie
                                                                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                  Ah My Balls
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                  • 14311
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  In the past couple weeks I have been asked by someone in mainstream to build them an adult network and someone in adult to build them a mainstream network. Both people thinking their is more money in something they are not doing. Grass is always greener I guess.

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                                                                                                                    • Robbie
                                                                                                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                      In the past couple weeks I have been asked by someone in mainstream to build them an adult network and someone in adult to build them a mainstream network. Both people thinking their is more money in something they are not doing. Grass is always greener I guess.
                                                                                                                      I would think that trying to start up right now in either mainstream or adult would be a hard row to hoe.

                                                                                                                      I'm glad I'm established in what I do. And plan on riding this storm out and coming out the other side one way or another. Changing horses in midstream could be a recipe for disaster at this particular moment in time.
                                                                                                                      -Robbie
                                                                                                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                        • Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                          There can be only one
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                          • 39075
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                          I would think that trying to start up right now in either mainstream or adult would be a hard row to hoe.

                                                                                                                          I'm glad I'm established in what I do. And plan on riding this storm out and coming out the other side one way or another. Changing horses in midstream could be a recipe for disaster at this particular moment in time.
                                                                                                                          Sometimes you just gotta shoot the damn horse though.
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                                                                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                              Sometimes you just gotta shoot the damn horse though.

                                                                                                                              Put it out of it's misery!
                                                                                                                              -Robbie
                                                                                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 11190
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie

                                                                                                                                  Put it out of it's misery!
                                                                                                                                  Poor Horse.
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                                                                                                                                    • Robbie
                                                                                                                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 20960
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                                                                      Poor Horse.
                                                                                                                                      Off to the glue factory with it.
                                                                                                                                      -Robbie
                                                                                                                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                                        • Nicky
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 30071
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I do mainstream stuff, some hard good's sales too but porn is the best(at least It was lol)

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                                                                                                                                            • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 11190
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                                              Off to the glue factory with it.
                                                                                                                                              Now there's a mainstream niche, making Glue. Talk about having fun at your workplace.
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                                                                                                                                                • BigDeanEvans
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 1368
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                  difference is mainstream will recover one day, adult will likely continue going downhill..
                                                                                                                                                  Well, i don't know about that. Porn is always going to be popular..it isn't a fad. People love their porn, it's just finding ways to monetize it that is becoming difficult. I'm sure the next best thing is right around the corner.

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                                                                                                                                                    • suesheboy
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                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      100% online but doing less adult every year and affiliate earning account for very little. The days of converting 1:32 are long over.

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                                                                                                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                          making it rain
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 22352
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          About as mainstream as I get is trying to sell adult dating to non-adult traffic... I have some rental income from 3 properties, but I'm happy with my adult revenues for now. Maybe I'll reevaluate next year.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Dvae
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              One by one I'm letting domains expire. For the past 2 yrs have been trading the forex.
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                                                                                                                                                              Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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                                                                                                                                                                • FrozenJag
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I started fall of 06 and by fall of 07 had an opportunity to start a smallish warehousing and trucking business. My family had been in trucking the whole time I was a kid so I was familar and jumped on it with my new found porn money. So since Jan of 08 I've had an offline business that my wife and brother run. However myself personally have continued busting ass and growing my adult business. Last two years I've paid myself nothing from the offline business so it can be on steroids in a sense gaining steam and paying it's debt off asap. Mean time I brought on 2 full time adult team members and we bust out huge amounts of work and all the while the offline company is getting more and more healthy since I was able to piggy back off my adult money. Thinking in the next year after offline biz debt is all gone that the two together should be pretty damn nice.

                                                                                                                                                                  Adult for life though. I owe ALOT to this game and it still treats me very well. One of those you get out of it what you put in sorta things. Still zero mainstream holdings at this point and although my eyes are always open, it's doubtful I'll explore MS anytime soon unless I can eventually afford to hire more team and do it up right.

                                                                                                                                                                  edit* When I started I had 100 bucks to invest and that is ALL. What other industry can you go from poor with 100 dollar investment and get to making thousands to tens of thousands to hundreds. Im forever greatful myself. You all should be too.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by FrozenJag; 07-14-2010, 04:26 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • BigDeanEvans
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1368
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                                                                                                      One by one I'm letting domains expire. For the past 2 yrs have been trading the forex.
                                                                                                                                                                      Forex? That's a suckers game. You might as well be going to the casino

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jon Oso
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          I had a courier business for about 4 months until my business partner got some girl I was fucking knocked up and disappeared.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Argos88
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2009
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Yes I have a mainstream business online and a mainstream business offline in my local city.

                                                                                                                                                                              3 years ago all my income came from adult, but not anymore... started diversifiny 1 year ago... only a part of my income comes from xbiz now...

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Argos88
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2009
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BigDeanEvans
                                                                                                                                                                                  Forex? That's a suckers game. You might as well be going to the casino
                                                                                                                                                                                  In fact you have more chances of doing money betting on sports with the so called "Sure bets" (no chance to lose a single buck, than with FOREX)

                                                                                                                                                                                  FOREX is very similar to gamble, despite that some people talk about technical analysis, fundamental analysis, priceacton, etc... The fact is that 95% of people lose money on forex and this is not my stats... the stats of 95% are claimed by the very same BROKERS...

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • BJ
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 5590
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      I own a gym in phuket www.naiharngym.com and also a small burger joint

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • BigDeanEvans
                                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1368
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Argos88
                                                                                                                                                                                          In fact you have more chances of doing money betting on sports with the so called "Sure bets" (no chance to lose a single buck, than with FOREX)

                                                                                                                                                                                          FOREX is very similar to gamble, despite that some people talk about technical analysis, fundamental analysis, priceacton, etc... The fact is that 95% of people lose money on forex and this is not my stats... the stats of 95% are claimed by the very same BROKERS...

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, is it as high as 95%? I knew it was a losers game but damn, 95%

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Ninja Scripts
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 1032
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                                                                                              When you say "plenty" you may be right in numbers. But absolutely wrong in percentages of people. There are always a handful of folks making money on any given situation. But that has jack dick to do with the insinuation that "mainstream" is kicking ass and porn just can't keep up. I'll guarantee you I make more money even now in porn in one week than 99.9% of people in "mainstream" make in a month. The money opportunity, payouts, and recurring billing are all superior in adult to mainstream.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Unless somebody has something SPECIFIC and not all these generalized urban legend hearsay statements...then I still say that a smart motivated person will make 100 times more money in porn than in "mainstream". Especially if you are starting out with little or no startup money.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I started back in the day with zero start up money. And made millions with that non-investment. You tell me even one mainstream opportunity that could have done that for me.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I'll give you one, eBay.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Mainstream has made many more millionaires than porn ever will.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 32195
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  If anyone wants to diversify into mainstream, let me know. I can help you diversify for cheap and also help you avoid some common pitfalls. [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oldy
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 348
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can help any of you diversify to mainstream, I am a supplier of pet turtles (azatic) , aquarium supplies, and reptile and animal feed. All sales refered have a 5% commission rate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      You can order turtles by the bulk, around $5 each and resell them for $15 online.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Aquarium supplies , around $15 for the turtle bowl, you can resell for $45.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      You do have to pay shipping from my warehouse which is a flat rate of $80 per shipment.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      A startup wholesaller package is $895, includes:
                                                                                                                                                                                                      70 turtles
                                                                                                                                                                                                      10 Circular bowls
                                                                                                                                                                                                      20 bags of turtle feed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Shipment is $80, total = $985
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      any requests pm me.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      thanks

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