Teen apologizes to Seattle Cop!

[DateDoc]

A Seattle teen shown on video shoving a police officer who then punched her in the face has apologized to the officer in a private meeting.

Seattle police say Officer Ian Walsh accepted the apology Friday.

Separately, the King County prosecutor charged the 17-year-old girl as a juvenile with third-degree assault, which is punishable by a maximum 30 days in detention.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100619/...e_police_punch

[Jon Oso]

Oh no but the cop was definitely wrong in hitting her and it was a hate crime and and and and..

Good for that girl to own up to her mistakes and apologize. Surprised she didn't try to sue. Someone she is around must be smarter than she is.

[baddog]

Will not be a popular thread.

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by baddog

Will not be a popular thread.

Of course not - there is no controversy. ;)

[MetaMan]

good for her, takes twice the balls to admit when you are wrong man or woman.

[dyna mo]

lolz, she did that to get a lessor sentence. period. i can promise you she was thinking she was going to cash in with a lawsuit <24 hours earlier.

[Spunky]

The cop should do the apologizing for smacking her in the chops in the first place

[JD]

he should have hit her harder.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

lolz, she did that to get a lessor sentence. period. i can promise you she was thinking she was going to cash in with a lawsuit <24 hours earlier.

I remember laughing to myself when I was watching the video and I heard someone say that they caught it on video. I wondered what what they were going to think after watching it. But yeah, mom or dad straightened her out.

[PersianKitty]

Wow.. it's amazing how the way they edit a clip can make you look at something a different way. The clip I have seen shows the officer trying to get the wrists of the girl in the black top so that he can cuff her. She was resisting and then her friend in the pink shirt gets in between and begins shoving him away so her friend can get loose. That's when he punched her. Then it shows him continuing to work on cuffing the girl in the black top and another girl trying to hold the girl in the pink top back so she doesn't get in the middle again.

The clip on that link shows the punch first and then shows some of what happened leading up to it after the punch. Totally backwards and very misleading.

A local news station posted this as the raw video from taken from someone's cell phone.. 2:45 worth
http://www.king5.com/video/featured-...-96353299.html

[punkpred]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

A Seattle teen shown on video shoving a police officer who then punched her in the face has apologized to the officer in a private meeting.

Seattle police say Officer Ian Walsh accepted the apology Friday.

Separately, the King County prosecutor charged the 17-year-old girl as a juvenile with third-degree assault, which is punishable by a maximum 30 days in detention.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100619/...e_police_punch

It would have been totally a different situation if that punch knocked her out or left some visible marks on her face. White bully cop vs black minor girl....

[kmanrox]

she stepped up and got beat down... demz are the breakz

[RFremont]

I'm just always kind of flabbergasted when I read some of these threads and people's opinions... a male cop punches a 17 year old girl in the face because she was resisting arrest but hey of course, she was resisting and out of control and needed to be subdued and and and....you dont confront cops thats what you get. He should have tazered her and kicked her in the stomach as well, she deserved it!

If you cant subdue a 17 year old girl and issue a jaywalking ticket without punching her in the face then you shouldnt be a cop. Anyone that sides with the actions of that cop is/was in law enforcement or has friends or family in law enforcement. Personally that video makes me sick, as does the comments from some people.

[kmanrox]

Originally Posted by rfremont

a male cop punches a 17 year old girl in the face because she was resisting arrest but hey of course, she was resisting and out of control and needed to be subdued and and and....you dont confront cops thats what you get. He should have tazered her and kicked her in the stomach as well, she deserved it!

amen!!!!

[Raf1]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

lolz, she did that to get a lessor sentence. period. i can promise you she was thinking she was going to cash in with a lawsuit <24 hours earlier.

sure thing

[IllTestYourGirls]

Good Im glad she did the right thing. Im the first to shit on cops when they are in the wrong. But this girl clearly was in the wrong.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by RFremont

I'm just always kind of flabbergasted when I read some of these threads and people's opinions... a male cop punches a 17 year old girl in the face because she was resisting arrest but hey of course, she was resisting and out of control and needed to be subdued and and and....you dont confront cops thats what you get. He should have tazered her and kicked her in the stomach as well, she deserved it!

If you cant subdue a 17 year old girl and issue a jaywalking ticket without punching her in the face then you shouldnt be a cop. Anyone that sides with the actions of that cop is/was in law enforcement or has friends or family in law enforcement. Personally that video makes me sick, as does the comments from some people.

I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.
- Bethania McKenstry

[geedub]

Originally Posted by RFremont

I'm just always kind of flabbergasted when I read some of these threads and people's opinions... a male cop punches a 17 year old girl in the face because she was resisting arrest but hey of course, she was resisting and out of control and needed to be subdued and and and....you dont confront cops thats what you get. He should have tazered her and kicked her in the stomach as well, she deserved it!

If you cant subdue a 17 year old girl and issue a jaywalking ticket without punching her in the face then you shouldnt be a cop. Anyone that sides with the actions of that cop is/was in law enforcement or has friends or family in law enforcement. Personally that video makes me sick, as does the comments from some people.

She deserved it, I don't personally know any cops. She's lucky he didn't taser her bitch ass. Why does this not bother me? She's being a degenerate and gets treated accordingly. If I am in a situation where cops come and I am the bad guy, I do not act like a fucking moron and do not get punched in my face. Plain and simple, if she wouldn't of been resisting and being a punk ass bitch, none of this would of happened.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by geedub

She deserved it, I don't personally know any cops. She's lucky he didn't taser her bitch ass. Why does this not bother me? She's being a degenerate and gets treated accordingly. If I am in a situation where cops come and I am the bad guy, I do not act like a fucking moron and do not get punched in my face. Plain and simple, if she wouldn't of been resisting and being a punk ass bitch, none of this would of happened.

Thanks for making my point, one track minded jackass... I do wonder though if that 17 year old female 'punk ass bitch' was a white girl, would you still be on your soapbox.


Again, there are dozens of ways to subdue a 17 year old female jaywalker, punching her in the face isn't one of them. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be a cop. Idiotic opinions like yours are the ones giving cops absolute power while they erode your civil rights but your hatred is too strong for that, isn't it.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Thanks for making my point, one track minded jackass... I do wonder though if that 17 year old female 'punk ass bitch' was a white girl, would you still be on your soapbox.


Again, there are dozens of ways to subdue a 17 year old female jaywalker, punching her in the face isn't one of them. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be a cop. Idiotic opinions like yours are the ones giving cops absolute power while they erode your civil rights but your hatred is too strong for that, isn't it.

if you were right, she'd have attorneys fighting each other to represent her, the investigation would of pointed to the cop as being the guilty party, she wouldn't have criminal charges filed against her and she certainly would not have issued an apology for her actions.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Again, there are dozens of ways to subdue a 17 year old female jaywalker, punching her in the face isn't one of them.

You should try watching the video. She was not a jaywalker.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by RFremont

I'm just always kind of flabbergasted when I read some of these threads and people's opinions... a male cop punches a 17 year old girl in the face because she was resisting arrest but hey of course, she was resisting and out of control and needed to be subdued and and and....you dont confront cops thats what you get. He should have tazered her and kicked her in the stomach as well, she deserved it!

If you cant subdue a 17 year old girl and issue a jaywalking ticket without punching her in the face then you shouldnt be a cop. Anyone that sides with the actions of that cop is/was in law enforcement or has friends or family in law enforcement. Personally that video makes me sick, as does the comments from some people.

Have you seen the video? She wanted to play rought but lost, also the cop new that he was outnumbered and more people were moving in, he had either the choice of quickly getting her under control or walking away and letting a crim escape with the impression that she can do whatever she wants just because she is a girl. i think he did well.

[SmokeyTheBear]

i think alot of people confuse a cops job.

A cops job is not to met out punishment to people who "deserve" it. Clearly this girl deserved to get punched in the face, did she "need" to be punched in the face to control the situation ? despite the video evidence the best person qualified to make that decision is the police officer in question. While ersonally i think he got a little mad and went more to the "what she deserves is a punch in the head " train of though , but i respect the fact that i wasn't there, did not know how much of a threat the cop felt she ( or others ) posed, and was not witness to numerous other factors that the cop may have noticed that i or the camera did not.

[dyna mo]

try and imagine being that cop- 1 cop surrounded by what looks like at least a dozen people, one of which jumped into the situation that didn't concern her and assaulted him.

just try and imagine that.

[RFremont]

Im not in any way condoning or defending that girl's actions, so stop repeating how much in the wrong she was. My point is simple: a male cop punching a 17 year old girl in the face is excessive force. period. I worked security for years at some of the heaviest nightclubs in several different cities, there are a dozen ways to subdue someone that is out of control... to say that the only way was to punch that girl in the face is laughable. By condoning that type of action, it blurs the lines of excessive force. What's next, maybe a billie club to the head, or tazer, just beat her... why not she was 'playing it rough', c'mon.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Im not in any way condoning or defending that girl's actions, so stop repeating how much in the wrong she was. My point is simple: a male cop punching a 17 year old girl in the face is excessive force. period. I worked security for years at some of the heaviest nightclubs in several different cities, there are a dozen ways to subdue someone that is out of control... to say that the only way was to punch that girl in the face is laughable. By condoning that type of action, it blurs the lines of excessive force. What's next, maybe a billie club to the head, or tazer, just beat her... why not she was 'playing it rough', c'mon.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

good for her, takes twice the balls to admit when you are wrong man or woman.

agreed

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

try and imagine being that cop- 1 cop surrounded by what looks like at least a dozen people, one of which jumped into the situation that didn't concern her and assaulted him.

just try and imagine that.

did you see the moment when the young man thought about going for hte officers gun?

that's why that woman is stupid, she almost started something that would have ended very very badly

Originally Posted by RFremont

Thanks for making my point, one track minded jackass... I do wonder though if that 17 year old female 'punk ass bitch' was a white girl, would you still be on your soapbox.


Again, there are dozens of ways to subdue a 17 year old female jaywalker, punching her in the face isn't one of them. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be a cop. Idiotic opinions like yours are the ones giving cops absolute power while they erode your civil rights but your hatred is too strong for that, isn't it.

Not sure why you have to bring race into this. If a white girl did the same thing, she should be punched too. How do any of us know this cop knew she was 17 before he hit her? A lot of you keep bringing up the age, but a lot of times you can't tell the age of a person by looking at them. She pushed that cop more than once. She knew damn well that she was in the wrong. 17 years of age is old enough to know better than to act like she did. Plus she already has a criminal record. She is no upstanding citizen.

[jjmerago]

Firts off age and race are not even the point. Cunt was as big as he was, bet she even weighs more, so when she approached he see size not age or race.
Second watch any episode of cops and you will see more white bitches getting tased,punched and slammed then black chicks.

Now down to business.
@RFredmont you are black we get it and since you cannot win the argument on facts and you know it you have to then turn to race. Well pal its 2010 and people are finally sick of the "poor black man" shtick no ones buying what your selling anymore. You got some wannabe MLK standing on his high horse trying to stir shit up BUT where is he now? The girl and her family do not agree with him and are embarrassed he made it racial. So is the black chief and former black mayor. So sir please argue this/your case with the facts and keep race and age outta it as it is not relevant.

What is relevant is that he was surrounded by a group of young idiots who wanted to hurt him out of pure ignorance and self importance. He was attacked, did it hurt him? NO but if he let it go with out using force it leaves him open for her to try again and again. Notice how after the initial adrenalin wore off she stayed the fuck back after she was pulled away and how you can hear people say don't go close he already punched that girl. He made his point anyone that interferes gets punched the fuck out.

Heres a final thought Never in police or court records history have there ever been more racial abuse/assault cases by the police then there have been abusive of powers by police against whites. This includes all races. Blacks Latinos Asians and all forms of brown folk's total complaints even come close to that of what white people complain about actual police brutality.
Video is your worst enemy now because when unedited shit hits the screen 2 days after your edited shit does people who had empathy including members of the racial communities, see the raw footage and become angry that they were played and will not stand up so fast next time.

So RFredmont same applies for you. You wanna stick to this story and blame everyone but the girls (yes both) then next time you stand up and say shit ... people will remember your arguments are not based on facts but popular opinion and are just passed over.

[VikingMan]

wow, never would have thought one of these thugs would ever show respect to law enforcement

[bronco67]

I thought it was a pretty wimpy way to handle the situation on the cop's part, but I'm glad there's a city that has the balls to say fuck off to Rev Al Sharpton. They even got the girl to apologize for getting punched in the face. That's gangsta, Seattle!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Im not in any way condoning or defending that girl's actions, so stop repeating how much in the wrong she was. My point is simple: a male cop punching a 17 year old girl in the face is excessive force. period.

How was he supposed to know how old she was? You are the one that keeps bringing up age and race.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Thanks for making my point, one track minded jackass... I do wonder though if that 17 year old female 'punk ass bitch' was a white girl, would you still be on your soapbox.


Again, there are dozens of ways to subdue a 17 year old female jaywalker, punching her in the face isn't one of them. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be a cop. Idiotic opinions like yours are the ones giving cops absolute power while they erode your civil rights but your hatred is too strong for that, isn't it.

White, black, Hispanic, Polish, Irish, I don't give a fucking shit. Mouth off to a police officer and then push him a assaulting an officer, a very serious crime. Then factor in he the officer was surrounded by her friends, one of which was hostile and being held back by her friends, and this is no longer a simple matter of a 17 year old kid jaywalking - she's under arrest, and if you resist you get beat down. Period.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by jjmerago

Now down to business.
@RFredmont you are black we get it and since you cannot win the argument on facts and you know it you have to then turn to race.



edit.

Hate to burst your bubble, I'm not black and pretty damn far off from an excuse making liberal.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by baddog

How was he supposed to know how old she was? You are the one that keeps bringing up age and race.

You are obfuscating the issue. Regarding the age, the cop must have realized this was a teen girl, or in her early 20s... I dont think he confused her with a 25 year old male gangbanger, did he


Regarding race, I didn't say the cop did what he did because she was black, I can't speak to that although I have my own opinion. What Im saying is the mob mentality that forms around these issues, 'yea she deserved it, punk ass bitch' 'good, punch her lights out, she had it coming' etc etc is influenced by her being black, so you'll always take the other side. You'll never admit it obviously but you know its the truth.

And on that note, I'll admit myself that I concede to those same stereotypes, when I see a security video of a black guy punching an old woman and stealing her purse the first thought that comes to my mind is a racial stereotype. So although some of you like you get on your high and mighty horse, you know good and well my point.

Outside of this secondary debate, my point remains: a cop punching a YOUNG girl in the face is excessive force and unnecessary to subdue an unruly person. As I stated, I'm just sort of shocked when I read some of these posts.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by Rochard

White, black, Hispanic, Polish, Irish, I don't give a fucking shit. Mouth off to a police officer and then push him a assaulting an officer, a very serious crime. Then factor in he the officer was surrounded by her friends, one of which was hostile and being held back by her friends, and this is no longer a simple matter of a 17 year old kid jaywalking - she's under arrest, and if you resist you get beat down. Period.

Obviously your perception of what the police role in society is differs sharply than mine. I don't believe cops are there dish out 'beat downs' or mete out corporal punishment, and particularly in this situation with 2 girls.

[seeandsee]

death penalty to teen, and kids will learn to not do it next time

[baddog]

Originally Posted by RFremont

You are obfuscating the issue. Regarding the age, the cop must have realized this was a teen girl, or in her early 20s... I dont think he confused her with a 25 year old male gangbanger, did he

What difference does it make if she is 17 or 25, male or female? She wanted to dance so she paid the fiddler.

[Amputate Your Head]

The only reason she "apologized" at all is because she was being charged and threatened with time. No brainer there.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by baddog

What difference does it make if she is 17 or 25, male or female? She wanted to dance so she paid the fiddler.

Wow. I mean, really?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RFremont

my point remains: a cop punching a YOUNG girl in the face is excessive force and unnecessary to subdue an unruly person.

then where are the ambulance chasing attorneys and why are there no lawsuits filed against the city? why was the girl charged and the officer not? if you were right, why did the girl issue an apology?

[Poindexterity]

apologies should have come from both sides.
no one was blameless in the video i saw.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Wow. I mean, really?

Yeah, really.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by baddog

Yeah, really.

Look I dont want to be mean to you, you're obviously a rather odd mix of biker/outlaw/pro-law enforcement/pro israel/republican mixture that's probably been formed over the many, many years you've been on this earth, what I should point out that your positions are completely devoid of objectivity. You will always take the side of what you support front the onset regardless of the particular situation and no matter what, you will never ever ever change. That's narrow minded and obstructive and exemplified in your blanketing statements 'what does it matter her age, she wanted to dance she paid the fiddler'. There is nothing any law enforcement would that you would say 'that's just wrong'. I've seen you comment on videos when a cop is beating a non-resisting person senseless and you still say 'we dont know what happened prior to the video'. So it's pretty senseless to have a debate with someone like you and I surmise why so many people hate your ass on here. But hey, to each his own... feel free to carry on supporting cops punching girls in the face but know good and well you're contributing to giving absolute power to cops, but that'll roll off your back until one day - hopefully - it affects you personally. Only then you might wake up.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

then where are the ambulance chasing attorneys and why are there no lawsuits filed against the city? why was the girl charged and the officer not? if you were right, why did the girl issue an apology?

It's a good question, I dont know. I suspect it turned political and they leveraged her in one way or another. Or maybe they just didnt want to battle it out, didnt think it was worth it. Or maybe they were OK with getting punched, I dont know.

My point is this; this could have happened in a country where its perfectly legal and normal for cops to punch girls in the face to subdue then and I still would hold the same position; it's excessive force and that guy shouldnt be a cop.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by RFremont

It's a good question, I dont know. I suspect it turned political and they leveraged her in one way or another. Or maybe they just didnt want to battle it out, didnt think it was worth it. Or maybe they were OK with getting punched, I dont know.

My point is this; this could have happened in a country where its perfectly legal and normal for cops to punch girls in the face to subdue then and I still would hold the same position; it's excessive force and that guy shouldnt be a cop.

i appreciate your reply.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by RFremont

Look I dont want to be mean to you, you're obviously a rather odd mix of biker/outlaw/pro-law enforcement/pro israel/republican mixture that's probably been formed over the many, many years you've been on this earth, what I should point out that your positions are completely devoid of objectivity. You will always take the side of what you support front the onset regardless of the particular situation and no matter what, you will never ever ever change. That's narrow minded and obstructive and exemplified in your blanketing statements 'what does it matter her age, she wanted to dance she paid the fiddler'. There is nothing any law enforcement would that you would say 'that's just wrong'. I've seen you comment on videos when a cop is beating a non-resisting person senseless and you still say 'we dont know what happened prior to the video'. So it's pretty senseless to have a debate with someone like you and I surmise why so many people hate your ass on here. But hey, to each his own... feel free to carry on supporting cops punching girls in the face but know good and well you're contributing to giving absolute power to cops, but that'll roll off your back until one day - hopefully - it affects you personally. Only then you might wake up.

curious with all your assumptive knowledge, why an 'ex-biker/outlaw/pro-law enforcement' would be supportive of any and all police action

considering his age and where he comes from, Baddog would be, presumptively, the first person here to speak ill of law enforcement.

he isn't.

no, what baddog does is take a standpoint on what he is presented, and remembers that there is things he doesn't know.

i'd rather listen to him call me a moron any day, over you explaining why this is simply a situation of a girl getting beat.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

curious with all your assumptive knowledge, why an 'ex-biker/outlaw/pro-law enforcement' would be supportive of any and all police action

considering his age and where he comes from, Baddog would be, presumptively, the first person here to speak ill of law enforcement.

he isn't.

no, what baddog does is take a standpoint on what he is presented, and remembers that there is things he doesn't know.

i'd rather listen to him call me a moron any day, over you explaining why this is simply a situation of a girl getting beat.

Thanks moron.


I keed

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by baddog

Thanks moron.


I keed

anytime, old fart haha