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Old 06-16-2010, 09:35 PM   #51
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Again, the guy claimed no such thing. I realize people don't like him but:

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don't pay attention to him. he's jobless fuck, former and useless affiliate representative which is hungry for work/cock

I've explained how this list was obtained. All the data come straight from ccbill admin for every particular client account. It's RAW DATA


I've explained that some programs have pps or migrated to nats, so it's ok if it off.

I'll remove PinUp Dollars, LegalBait, Perfecto and others. But we need to work together to get accurate list and have this resolved with as many programs as possible.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:35 PM   #52
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read the fucking thread title

and yeah you bet I dont like the guy
"[LIST] CCBill programs with DISABLED rebills "

For the most part that's technically accurate at least from the perspective of ccbill's system. Some have the settings to 1 -3 rebills respectively. I think you're trying a little too hard to crucify the guy. He could have explained it better and put a disclaimer on his website as he did in his GFY post (which hinted that there are legit reasons for this setting to exist) but I don't see a false accusation. It's an automated list reporting what ccbill shows in the affiliate lounge.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:40 PM   #53
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I'll remove PinUp Dollars, LegalBait, Perfecto and others. But we need to work together to get accurate list and have this resolved with as many programs as possible.
Ty........
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:53 PM   #55
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I've removed:
LegalBait - PPS
PinUpDollars - migrated to NATS, are not available for promo via ccbill anymore
PerfectoDollars - PPS

explanation on that page will be added in a while (that page with the list is only available for those who has seen the thread, there's no link for it at Signbucks Daily, so people have seen the explanation before taking the list)

again - thread title and this list is 100% technically correct. the other thing is that some programs don't use their acc with ccbill and others are offering PPS which doesn't require rebills.

i've also decided to display those programs which offer limited amount of rebills. it's still important.

we can't get all the stuff on our own, so get yourself involved, notify the program and lets resolve as many issues as possible. I've got a few mails already from programs saying they are ok from now
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Say what? It's a list his programmer compiled presumably by setting up a program to automatically parse the settings which ccbill's affiliate admin reports. He is duplicating what it spit out. He didn't state "Here is a list of cheating scumbags which I have compiled and verified by hand"

Do you understand how programs work and that they usually are automated? I'd think most people here would. HE disclosed what the list was, although not in the best way possible and his site seems to lack this information.
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don't pay attention to him. he's jobless fuck, former and useless affiliate representative which is hungry for work/cock

I've explained how this list was obtained. All the data come straight from ccbill admin for every particular client account. It's RAW DATA


I've explained that some programs have pps or migrated to nats, so it's ok if it off.

I'll remove PinUp Dollars, LegalBait, Perfecto and others. But we need to work together to get accurate list and have this resolved with as many programs as possible.
listen clearly you deluded piece of shit

NOBODY GIVES A FUCK HOW YOU COMPILED THE FUCKING LIST - IT DOESNT MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot make negative accusations about peoples business's here without providing proof ? Do you understand that you fucking village dwelling idiot ??

Analogy that even a moron like you could understand.

How about I start a thread "all these sites are all involved in CP"!!!!!!!!!

it is an automated list and my programmer is new so after I posted the thread on gfy thinking I was a big fucking hero we find out that some of the sites have nothing to do with CP. Meanwhile hundreds of people have seen my thread and looked at the list.

SO thats ok according to your fucked up head is it ? I just apologise and remove them from the list and everything goes back to normal ? Is that how it works you fuckin imbecile ?

christ you are a smug little shit
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don't pay attention to him. he's jobless fuck, former and useless affiliate representative which is hungry for work/cock

I've explained how this list was obtained. All the data come straight from ccbill admin for every particular client account. It's RAW DATA


I've explained that some programs have pps or migrated to nats, so it's ok if it off.

I'll remove PinUp Dollars, LegalBait, Perfecto and others. But we need to work together to get accurate list and have this resolved with as many programs as possible.
Thank you very much for removing Pinup Dollars.

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Ben, your aussie's brain must be hit too many time by boomerang, let me repeat it for you:
login into ccbill, go to tools, find all those programs and check their program details. you'll find exactly what i've been posted. it's 100% technically accurate

and no program listed there by positive false requires my banning, only stupid jobless fuck like u
i'm doing my best to make it accurate and it'll be done
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:09 PM   #59
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I've removed:
LegalBait - PPS
PinUpDollars - migrated to NATS, are not available for promo via ccbill anymore
PerfectoDollars - PPS

explanation on that page will be added in a while (that page with the list is only available for those who has seen the thread, there's no link for it at Signbucks Daily, so people have seen the explanation before taking the list)

again - thread title and this list is 100% technically correct. the other thing is that some programs don't use their acc with ccbill and others are offering PPS which doesn't require rebills.

i've also decided to display those programs which offer limited amount of rebills. it's still important.

we can't get all the stuff on our own, so get involved, report the program and lets resolve as many issues as possible. I've got a few mails already from programs saying they are ok from now
You might consider adding a date checked field or specifying the general date in which the check was ran if you intend on leaving the raw list up for a while. A program might change the settings after noticing they are on this list and this might then make you look like you are deceiving people unless you have other proof such as screenshots or witnesses.

An easier to understand Disclaimer might be a good idea:

"This list does not necessarily mean a listed program is doing something unethical. There are legitimate reasons to have the current settings s3et in this way such as running a PPS only program. Please investigate the given program yourself before making a decision when using this data. If it seems suspicious please contact the program for an explanation."

Definitely support the effort though.
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:10 PM   #60
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You might consider adding a date checked field or specifying the general date in which the check was ran if you intend on leaving the raw list up for a while. A program might change the settings after noticing they are on this list and this might then make you look like you are deceiving people unless you have other proof such as screenshots or witnesses.

An easier to understand Disclaimer might be a good idea:

"This list does not necessarily mean a listed program is doing something unethical. There are legitimate reasons to have the current settings s3et in this way such as running a PPS only program. Please investigate the given program yourself before making a decision when using this data. If it seems suspicious please contact the program for an explanation."

Definitely support the effort though.

Thx man. used your text. initially there was no plans for having this list on the site. thought it'll be one-time stuff, so we will resolve it with those who really matter and get it updated in half a year. let's see where it's comming, maybe it'll stay.
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Thanks for the list, I found a program within a few seconds, mycuteteens than sends me new galleries weekly and I actively promote, they have apparently been fucking me for quite some time

also, 25 for the expired list is a steal

Thanks for the good work and saving me a few bucks!
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If this list is hard to navigate for you or something - send me request at daizzzySignbucksDailycom and i'll send you original Excel file where you can sort data however you want
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I will remove Kinky Kicks ASAP.
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don't remove. notify them about the list and ask to enable rebills
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Daizzy's 2nd nick to back himself up?
I told him in the other thread that this list is a problem waiting to happen.

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I see your point a bit. While it is hardly a "fine print disclaimer" on this forum (It's in the same font and clearly visible), I don't see any notice on that page he links to stating that it was collected in an automated manner and that it has not been individually checked.

Agreed that it might be a good idea to make that notice bold or move it to the top on the GFY post but I don't think he can edit it now himself an admin would have to do it for him.
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I read the entire post and did not have any trouble understanding what was said. I checked some of my affiliates on my CC Bill admin and pretty quickly figured out what was what.

On another note, the max rebills used to be 99, but was changed when Groobybucks actually had a member that rebilled 99 times, now there is an option for indefinite rebills.
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Thx man. used your text. initially there was no plans for having this list on the site. thought it'll be one-time stuff, so we will resolve it with those who really matter and get it updated in half a year. let's see where it's comming, maybe it'll stay.
Don't forget that these setting can be applied on a per affiliate basis. There's at least one on that list that I have 'unlimited' rebills for but you have listed as 'zero'.
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99 months is life time.

Or at least at that point you should quit asking to get paid for one fucking link.
So what is 'unlimited'?
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BTW, is there any way to check if a CCBILL sponsor has rebills or not?

(Besides asking the sponsor...)

And any way if the Motherfucker Sponsor owner has cut the rebill but the member is still active?? Any way to check this with the subscription ID or any other way?

If we ask, CCBILL via email, will they answer if a list of subscriptions are still active or not?

First time I hear about this.. obviouly, some people do a lot of effort to hide the real info from affiliates..
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Please add SpankBuxx and Strict Cash to the list.

Well, Dino already stole a lot of money from people when switching SpankBuxx program from NATS to CCbill. Link.
However he still seems to be milking people.

SpankBuxx: http://spankbuxx.xerotics.com/index.php

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If you still promote this scumbag better check your payout amount.
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All,

I want to say that he mentioned Dreamnet on the list. One of our old legacy affiliates was set up incorrectly and I have fixed it. I don't want this to reflect badly on our new DreamnetCash.com program.

I sent Daizzzy the following so hopefully he will remove us from the list.

======== begin email ========
Dear Daizzzy,

The Dreamnet Specials Affiliate program is on your list. I have fixed it to 50/50 revshare with recurring. It was honestly an oversight.

We have Several Affiliates running through DreamnetCash.com and I have double checked them and they are all 50/50 reshare with recurring payments.

I am sorry for the confusion it was an honest oversight on our legacy Affiliate Program 932302-0000 but all our new programs 932302-0600 - 0603 have been 50/50 rev share with recurring since the beginning.

If you have any questions please let me know.
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Let me also say I am new to designing and setting up Affiliate programs. If anyone out there finds anything setup incorrect please do not hesitate to contact me at [email protected] .

Thanks all.
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hey Rob. thank you for getting into this. your program was removed from the list
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Don't forget that these setting can be applied on a per affiliate basis. There's at least one on that list that I have 'unlimited' rebills for but you have listed as 'zero'.
as i mentioned above, some programs have changed their settings once that list appeared. i'd rather believe in this, than different settings for some accs.

anyways i only welcome this. the idea of this whole thread is to get the issue resolved. so more 'differences' between my and yours accs "happens" in the next few days - the better it be.
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none of those programs was listed at Signbucks Daily, they aren't that big so it'll be hard for webmasters to find them. it's rather waste of time than usefulness of making people aware on that - don't you think so?

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Please add SpankBuxx and Strict Cash to the list.

Well, Dino already stole a lot of money from people when switching SpankBuxx program from NATS to CCbill. Link.
However he still seems to be milking people.

SpankBuxx: http://spankbuxx.xerotics.com/index.php



Screenshot from CCbill SpankBuxx Program Details:




Strict Cash: http://webmasters.strictspanking.com/signup.htm



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If you still promote this scumbag better check your payout amount.
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as i mentioned above, some programs have changed their settings once that list appeared. i'd rather believe in this, than different settings for some accs.

anyways i only welcome this. the idea of this whole thread is to get the issue resolved. so more 'differences' between my and yours accs "happens" in the next few days - the better it be.
This isn't a sponsor that has changed the setting once they have seen this list. I get rebills from them every month, for a long time now.

You might be surprised at the amount of sponsors that have individual settings for different affiliates.

How often do you update your list of "every ccbill program" on the site?
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BTW, is there any way to check if a CCBILL sponsor has rebills or not?

(Besides asking the sponsor...)...
View details of the sponsor you want to check in the tools report inside CCBill.
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Daizzy's 2nd nick to back himself up?
No.

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hey Rob. thank you for getting into this. your program was removed from the list
Much appreciated and if ever you find anything wonky with our program let me know. As I said I'm still learning this side of the biz.
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How often do you update your list of "every ccbill program" on the site?
we scan upper ccbill ca segment like each 2 months, and once a year the whole ccbill database from the beginning
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none of those programs was listed at Signbucks Daily, they aren't that big so it'll be hard for webmasters to find them. it's rather waste of time than usefulness of making people aware on that - don't you think so?
I have no idea of the size, but if they aren't big anymore as you say it is only good news.
I see the list is also more about amount of rebills and not so much cheat with rebills. So yes you are right and I have tried contact CCbill instead.

Their SpankBuxx sites are listed on Signbucks Daily although all links points to outdated url's. Just a notice if you would like to update those.

http://www.signbucksdaily.com/partne...am/spank_buxx/
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Give me a SCREENCAP when you're in the ccbill admin where it gives you the option of lifetime rebills.
ahhhh i didn't read the second part of what you said..I was driving on the expressway at the time.
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Femdomdestiny contacted me regarding the Kinky Kicks Affiliate Program and I have adjusted accordingly so re-bills are enabled.
For the record this programme was initially setup not really knowing how cash / affiliate programs work and very little effort has gone into it.
This is all set to change and it will soon be re-launched as a proper Cash Program under a new name with better promotional tools.
Details of this will be made available as and when this happens.
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I have no idea of the size, but if they aren't big anymore as you say it is only good news.
I see the list is also more about amount of rebills and not so much cheat with rebills. So yes you are right and I have tried contact CCbill instead.

Their SpankBuxx sites are listed on Signbucks Daily although all links points to outdated url's. Just a notice if you would like to update those.

http://www.signbucksdaily.com/partne...am/spank_buxx/
thx MPGdevil, this's really helpfull. i used to search for spUnk buxx. that program is in trouble for a long time and it should be blacklisted already. i'll prepare the record lately and already removed it from the list
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Femdomdestiny contacted me regarding the Kinky Kicks Affiliate Program and I have adjusted accordingly so re-bills are enabled.
For the record this programme was initially setup not really knowing how cash / affiliate programs work and very little effort has gone into it.
This is all set to change and it will soon be re-launched as a proper Cash Program under a new name with better promotional tools.
Details of this will be made available as and when this happens.
i did manual check of your profile. from what i see it's still
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

please contact ccbill support to get this sorted out
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btw i've heard from the 2nd program owner already that they have rebills enabled but ccbill still shows they are not and ccbill support has no clue what's going on.
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Maybe you should take off PERFECTO from that list. Its PPS...
The PPS program pays 1 time. like any PPS program does.

The revshare have been paying webmasters since the day we opened in 2003.
He did mention in the start of the thread that some of the programs might be pps or some might not be with ccbill anymore and some might just be not paying rebills. He left it up to us to check. He did state this pretty clearly.
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Maybe you should take off PERFECTO from that list. Its PPS...
The PPS program pays 1 time. like any PPS program does.

The revshare have been paying webmasters since the day we opened in 2003.
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Perfecto is right. Some of those are PPS.

I check it sometimes in ccbill, because it can also be set individual. But then I also check if its PPS. CCBill should send emails if something is changed, IMO.
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We pay on ALL our rebills. All the time. 100%. Without fail.

Yes, we switched to NATS but every single rebill we have and do goes through NATS, including all rebills that were from initial transactions that came before we made the switch. Any of you who are affiliates can check your stats and check your bi-monthly payouts you get from us and you can verify that is the case.

I don't know why or how we got on that list, but whatever the reason it is a pure fabrication. We haven't been in business for 12 years pulling BS like that and I personally really resent someone coming on here, putting our name on some blacklist with zero evidence to back up any of what they are saying.
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The problem is, a lot of people aren't reading that part of it and are just assuming that it's all true. We've already been getting pissed off emails from affiliates asking what's going on thanks solely to this thread.

Publishing an unverified blacklist and following it up with a fine print disclaimer that reads "this list may not be accurate" is bullshit.

You people should learn to read.

That is simply a list of ccbill programs that have rebills turned off. OF COURSE the PPS programs are going to be on that list because PPS does not have rebills...DUH!.

But, that is not what it is for. He posted the list so you can see if a NON PPS sponsor (aka Rev Share) is on the list. If so, THEN there is a problem... and judging from this thread, 2 webmasters have already found rev share programs on that list.

If you are a rev share program.. and you are on that list... you are stealing from your affiliates.

If you are a PPS sponsor and are on that list... well, DUH!
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MCTCash removed from the list that's his situation. now i see unlimited rebills from my back-end

Marlboro (16:10:15 18/06/2010)
there's a mess with their groups

Marlboro (16:11:31 18/06/2010)
there's main group where webmasters gets by default and all settings set for program apply for this group - it's like everything initially is fine

Marlboro (16:13:56 18/06/2010)
then programs start creating new groups (i.e. for dispatching news as it's done at CCBill) and when aff account is being moved to another group here comes drop of rebill settings, and revshare % kinda remains
once affiliate checks his option it's shows like everything is off and program thinks that basic settings where everything is right remained

Marlboro (16:14:21 18/06/2010)
when program checks its stats affiliate rebills are displayed correct

Marlboro (16:14:34 18/06/2010)
this issue webmaster spots only on his side

Marlboro (16:15:38 18/06/2010)
now i've set every group settings like they are for the main one, where affiliate gets after registration
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You people should learn to read.

That is simply a list of ccbill programs that have rebills turned off. OF COURSE the PPS programs are going to be on that list because PPS does not have rebills...DUH!.

But, that is not what it is for. He posted the list so you can see if a NON PPS sponsor (aka Rev Share) is on the list. If so, THEN there is a problem... and judging from this thread, 2 webmasters have already found rev share programs on that list.

If you are a rev share program.. and you are on that list... you are stealing from your affiliates.

If you are a PPS sponsor and are on that list... well, DUH!
I have seen quite a few revshare programs on there that i have tried to promote...I have no problem with this list...People who dont like this guy just dont give him a chance, its like they put their fingers in their ears and say nahahahahahahahah poo poo
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This was brought to our attention by a concerned webmaster who emailed us after noticing that our program was advertising unlimited rebills for affiliates yet in his CCBill Affiliate Tools Admin area our program showed as rebills being turned off. Some initial checking on our part showed that our affiliate recurring settings were and always have been set to allow affiliates credit for rebills. We also checked our accounting in CCbill, and affiliates WERE getting credit and being paid for all recurring sales, so whatever was causing this inaccurate information to be displayed was NOT affecting actual affiliate credit for rebills. We then contacted CCBill to find out what is causing this information to be displayed incorrectly.

After some digging around with CCBill, it appears that there is some disconnect in CCBill between what is set in the Affiliate Setup area at the subaccount level, and any changes to grouping settings that are made to the account as a whole after the initial subaccount settings are made. This issue causes the Affiliate Tools listing for the program / site to inaccurately show the correct affiliate rebilling setting. So even if the account actually has rebilling credit for affiliates turned on at the individual subaccount setup area, if any changes to account grouping have been made, this information can actually display incorrectly for affiliates. One of our sites, Asian Cock Stars.com appears on this list, even though in our Affiliate setup area, we have always given affiliates credit for all rebills.

Working with CCBill on the webmaster chat tool in their admin, we were able to get this misalignment corrected so that our program does in fact show the correct information in the Affiliate Tools area.

I have further contacted Daizzzy at Sign Bucks Daily, requesting the removal of our site from this list.
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This was brought to our attention by a concerned webmaster who emailed us after noticing that our program was advertising unlimited rebills for affiliates yet in his CCBill Affiliate Tools Admin area our program showed as rebills being turned off. Some initial checking on our part showed that our affiliate recurring settings were and always have been set to allow affiliates credit for rebills. We also checked our accounting in CCbill, and affiliates WERE getting credit and being paid for all recurring sales, so whatever was causing this inaccurate information to be displayed was NOT affecting actual affiliate credit for rebills. We then contacted CCBill to find out what is causing this information to be displayed incorrectly.

After some digging around with CCBill, it appears that there is some disconnect in CCBill between what is set in the Affiliate Setup area at the subaccount level, and any changes to grouping settings that are made to the account as a whole after the initial subaccount settings are made. This issue causes the Affiliate Tools listing for the program / site to inaccurately show the correct affiliate rebilling setting. So even if the account actually has rebilling credit for affiliates turned on at the individual subaccount setup area, if any changes to account grouping have been made, this information can actually display incorrectly for affiliates. One of our sites, Asian Cock Stars.com appears on this list, even though in our Affiliate setup area, we have always given affiliates credit for all rebills.

Working with CCBill on the webmaster chat tool in their admin, we were able to get this misalignment corrected so that our program does in fact show the correct information in the Affiliate Tools area.

I have further contacted Daizzzy at Sign Bucks Daily, requesting the removal of our site from this list.
I'm guessing that whilst yours was still working positively for affiliates and they were getting credit, it could go the other way.

Changes could be made the other way and the affiliates would never notice other than getting no rebills.
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thx tombarr

Now i see
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

for your program, it's removed from the list
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CCBill explain the situation which was described by Marlboro from my icq log and tombarr. is there a way to get it fixed? or what should owners do to fix it on their own if there's no way to fix it on your side?
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