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Joshua G · 06-04-2010, 09:38 PM

people should just stay away from comparing anyone to the nazis. its intellectually lazy. When you feel really depressed about your life, do some in depth reading on what the nazis did to the jews - The mengele stuff, the warsaw ghetto, the 1945 death march, throwing living jews into ovens. If you got gassed you got off easy.

Raiding a flotilla of rabblerousers was a dumbass move. I expect more from a race that prides itself on its brains & creativity. But step off with the nazi shit.

Rochard · 06-04-2010, 09:39 PM

Looks like Israel just boarded another ship - From Yahoo news:

GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories (AFP) ? An international aid ship en route for the Gaza Strip was intercepted by Israeli troops early on Saturday, the Gaza-based committee awating the vessel told AFP.

"The Rachel Corrie has been intercepted 35 miles off Gaza," a spokesman for the welcoming committee told AFP in Gaza City.

A Dublin based spokesman for the vessel, which is carrying 15 people and tonnes of aid for Gaza, could not confirm the information and said he had not been in contact with the boat.

The Israeli army was also unable to confirm the information.

What I find most interesting is we have a location this time - 35 miles out at sea.

mayabong · 06-04-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls

one can say the jews are using fascist or aparteid tactics on the people whose land they took. But the nazis are not comparable to anything else in humanity. just to cite your examples...the warsaw ghetto, Nazis prevented any food or medicine into warsaw. the jews are letting the UN provide humanitarian aid. Arabs have unequal rights. But jews did not outlaw anything they do (marry, own a business) like the 1935 nuremberg laws did. & the arabs were not rounded up & killed in a quest to eliminate their existence from the world. So really your comparisons, FAIL.

Just a simple reply to that.

Amongst the threatening weapons Israel forbids to Gaza are: Coriander, ginger, nutmeg, canned fruit, dried fruit, fresh meat, seeds and nuts. Dangerous items include fishing rods and rope, fabric, chicken hatcheries, chickens, donkeys, horses, goats, cattle. We must not forget the ever ominous musical instruments, newspapers and wood.

Joshua G · 06-04-2010, 09:47 PM

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I was talking to a friend about Israel today, and I mentioned that we send Israel billions of dollars of aid yearly. Israel is a small country, wtf are sending it billions of dollars?

I doubt that we are being black mailed.... but it does make you wonder why we support Israel so damn much.

simple - AIPAC, illuminati, etc.

Joshua G · 06-04-2010, 09:54 PM

just my opinion, its not a "fact" but israel wouldnt be fucking up this badly if Obama wasn't such a huge vagina. As soon as the Israelis said "fuck you" when Obama demanded no more settlement construction, & the pussy in chief shrugged, the Shas knew they could do whatever the fuck they wanted. Hence the biden debacle, the flotilla debacle, & numerous other debacles coming down the line when the US president has no pull with Israel.

onwebcam · 06-04-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls

people should just stay away from comparing anyone to the nazis. its intellectually lazy. When you feel really depressed about your life, do some in depth reading on what the nazis did to the jews - The mengele stuff, the warsaw ghetto, the 1945 death march, throwing living jews into ovens. If you got gassed you got off easy.

Raiding a flotilla of rabblerousers was a dumbass move. I expect more from a race that prides itself on its brains & creativity. But step off with the nazi shit.

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Originally Posted by joshgirls

one can say the jews are using fascist or aparteid tactics on the people whose land they took. But the nazis are not comparable to anything else in humanity. just to cite your examples...the warsaw ghetto, Nazis prevented any food or medicine into warsaw. the jews are letting the UN provide humanitarian aid. Arabs have unequal rights. But jews did not outlaw anything they do (marry, own a business) like the 1935 nuremberg laws did. & the arabs were not rounded up & killed in a quest to eliminate their existence from the world. So really your comparisons, FAIL.

Umm isn't it a Jewish belief that they are supperior race to everyone else. You know the Jews and Gentile thing. Hmm I wonder where Hitler got that idea? Oh that's right he was Jewish.

What's even more commical or stupid however you want to look at it about the Iran and Isreal spat is Mahmoud Ahmajinedad was born Jewish himself..

How about that American boy turned AlCIAda. Bingo once again a Jewish boy and better yet his Grandfather was a founder of the ADL.

Starting to see a trend here?

mayabong · 06-04-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls

just my opinion, its not a "fact" but israel wouldnt be fucking up this badly if Obama wasn't such a huge vagina. As soon as the Israelis said "fuck you" when Obama demanded no more settlement construction, & the pussy in chief shrugged, the Shas knew they could do whatever the fuck they wanted. Hence the biden debacle, the flotilla debacle, & numerous other debacles coming down the line when the US president has no pull with Israel.

I'm not totally sure about this, but the simple fact of demanding no more settlement construction is something no president has really done. That sent a message. Israel hates Obama, and I think Obama hates Israel. (1. judging by his pastor - 2. he knows farrahkahn - and 3. jessie jackson said he would get rid of the zionist influence if he was elected also)

Fox news hates Obama, that means Israel hates Obama.

They hated him right when he was elected, they know something we don't.

As far as Turkey, Israel, and NATO it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. According to nato rules, america would have to come to turkey's defense since what isreal did was an act of war (technically).

I'm sure none of this would happen but its fun to play out in my head while I'm beating off to pictures of Ostriches.

mayabong · 06-04-2010, 10:17 PM

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Looks like Israel just boarded another ship - From Yahoo news:

GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories (AFP) ? An international aid ship en route for the Gaza Strip was intercepted by Israeli troops early on Saturday, the Gaza-based committee awating the vessel told AFP.

"The Rachel Corrie has been intercepted 35 miles off Gaza," a spokesman for the welcoming committee told AFP in Gaza City.

A Dublin based spokesman for the vessel, which is carrying 15 people and tonnes of aid for Gaza, could not confirm the information and said he had not been in contact with the boat.

The Israeli army was also unable to confirm the information.

What I find most interesting is we have a location this time - 35 miles out at sea.

According to twitter hasn't been boarded just shadowed.. thay're almost to gaza

onwebcam · 06-04-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

According to twitter hasn't been boarded just shadowed.. thay're almost to gaza

They can no longer twitter because they have been arrested.

Rachel Corrie aid ship 'seized by Israeli navy'

Saturday, 5 June 2010

One of the last ships on a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, the Irish-owned MV Rachel Corrie, has been intercepted by the Israeli navy, according to reports.

The activists on board the ship reported via Twitter that three boats were following them for around twenty minutes.

Israeli forces then boarded and reportedly placed passengers under arrest.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14831352.html

mayabong · 06-04-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

They can no longer twitter because they have been arrested.

Rachel Corrie aid ship 'seized by Israeli navy'

Saturday, 5 June 2010

One of the last ships on a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, the Irish-owned MV Rachel Corrie, has been intercepted by the Israeli navy, according to reports.

The activists on board the ship reported via Twitter that three boats were following them for around twenty minutes.

Israeli forces then boarded and reportedly placed passengers under arrest.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14831352.html

Spokesman for Cyprus-based Free Gaza group says IDF ships have intercepted the aid ship and have not boarded it, contrary to an earlier Twitter report.

http://www.haaretz.com/

Apparently israel's own newspapers aren't even sure.

Dirty Dane · 06-04-2010, 10:27 PM

There will be no peace in Middle East as long Hamas and other radicals rules. When Palestine voted for Hamas they also chose suffering.

The only way to aid their people is to distribute through a checkpoint and let some independant witness the aid is given.

mayabong · 06-04-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

There will be no peace in Middle East as long Hamas and other radicals rules. When Palestine voted for Hamas they also chose suffering.

The only way to aid their people is to distribute through a checkpoint and let some independant witness the aid is given.

For those who dont know history, israel were the ones who funded hamas.

onwebcam · 06-04-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

Spokesman for Cyprus-based Free Gaza group says IDF ships have intercepted the aid ship and have not boarded it, contrary to an earlier Twitter report.

http://www.haaretz.com/

Apparently israel's own newspapers aren't even sure.

That's good.

Dirty Dane · 06-04-2010, 10:43 PM

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For those who dont know history, israel were the ones who funded hamas.

Yes, Israel shouldn't have given them democracy.... but they did, and now they face a "democracy" that officially wants to kill all jews. History repeats itself.

Rochard · 06-04-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mayabong

For those who dont know history, israel were the ones who funded hamas.

Can you back that up?

Sort of sounds like the US with Afghanistan. Sometimes you create a monster to accomlish your own goals.

onwebcam · 06-04-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Can you back that up?

Sort of sounds like the US with Afghanistan. Sometimes you create a monster to accomlish your own goals.

A good article on the matter

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...son-of-israel/

another

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle10456.htm

BigDeanEvans · 06-04-2010, 11:22 PM

Hey T.D - is the last name Barsky, Jewish? Hmm another coininkydink

mayabong · 06-04-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Can you back that up?

Sort of sounds like the US with Afghanistan. Sometimes you create a monster to accomlish your own goals.

too lazy too look right now but a google search should help. Apperantly they funded them to go against arafat. Cause they had common goals --- to destroy eachother. sorry feeding a baby and typing with one hand.

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

The Israelis use a different tactic (but the same concept) any food medicine, including the UN's is subject to a 100% import tariff. 80% of all food/medicine in Gaza is from aid relief. In short, the Israelis are making a profit on suffering. So, what was the last country that made a profit off the Jews suffering? Second, there was not a UN in WWII and very few aid relief organizations.

Bullshit. The costs of the blokade is much higher than they would profit from it.
Egypt also have the blokade for same reason: Hamas makes the region unstable.

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 02:10 AM

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Then why put a 100% import tariff in the first place? Also, learn that you make a profit on goods and services when you have ZERO investment in those goods and services.

If you don't know why, aren't your conclusions also based on assumptions? Every country on Earth have a tariff on something, and it's not about zero investment = profit, but because they want to protect something or cover other costs.

I don't know why in this case, I don't know Israel laws, but I doubt those 100% cover the costs of the blokade. Security, military, administration, PR... Israel is not run by the mafia or a Nazi dictatorship, but a country run by democratic elected politicians, so they must also have discussed why they have this tariff and what those money are used for. There must be an official explanation other than your assumptions, don't you think?

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 03:29 AM

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It's not assumptions it's fact and I understand your point. So my question to you is would you put a tariff on goods or services (inspected not to be a threat) to feed and medicate hungry sick people?

If it's a fact, what is your official source? I looked up, but couldn't find anything about it.

No, I wouldn't put tariff on unless there is a good reason to do so. There might be various and strange reasons for doing so. The most obvious to me, is to cover some sort of costs.

Some countries or people even refuse to recieve aid. They are too proud, won't commit themselves, lack humiliation, or simply want to suffer so they look like victims.
The last part is standard strategy for leaders in radical islam. They choose their people to suffer for "the world to see" and brainwash their own people to believe some other caused it. Even their kids are tought so, sponsored by Israel haters all over the world. When you read about humanitarian aid carrying "school books" for kids, what do you think is written in those books?

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My point is, we (non-jews) are reminded often on what happen to the Jews during WWII and practically forced via political correctness to have empathy/guilt for Israel and Jews for not doing something about it. Case in point, normally if any majority persecutes any minority it would be considered racist or prejudice. BUT if you're a JEW those titles don't apply because of their elitist/religious nature and if applied, you would be elevated to an Anti-Semite. Meaning, they want the world to be sensitive to their past suffering and actually created a word for hate, racism, and prejudice that ONLY applies to them.

So you think they would be MORE sensitive to hate, racism, or suffering? BUT as you see they are not.

Well, emotional propaganda can be used both ways. The one who victimize himself and the one accusing him of doing it. The difference is that Israel have invited into democracy and peace, but each time the arabs reject. As I said, they rather suffer than join the jews. WW2 is the past, so I think the rational way in this case: rockets have rained over southern Israel for years (not WW2) and Hamas has a officially policy to exterminate all jews today (they were elected on this policy). That policy and practice is a good reason for anyone, jew or not, to ensure it doesn't happen. I do not know where the tariff comes into all of that, but maybe you can enlighten me with a source.

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 04:50 AM

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Hear me out on this. Personally, I can give a flying fuck on what the Israelis to do the Palestinians. Honestly. Matter of fact, the Israelis should have never given back the Sinai and should have pushed all the Palestinians there and tell them after 40 years they can come back and we will talk about living in peace together.

I lived there and seen both sides and can roll-out shit Israelis did to non-violent Arabs called Druze. In short, they kicked them off their land and built kibbutzim on their property. These Arabs have never fired a shot at the Jews and actually fought beside them in the wars and Israel has statues erected in their honor. Now, what you need to understand is the Israeli hypocrisy because the Druze were there before there were Jews.

Their religion is so old they were the first to say Adam did not come from gods rib, but was the first man to believe in one god. The Israelis still seized their land and they live in severe poverty, no civil rights, etc. So crying to me about elected officials and a democratic government is all bullshit unless you're a Jew in Israel.

My point is the hypocrisy, lies, and force Israel will use to achieve an all Jewish nation regardless of peace.

Don't be a tool

The Jewish people is thousands of years older than any of the Islamic religion, land has been promised, conquered, re-conquered.. wars .. it's all about superstition left-overs that can be tracked back to even thousands of years earlier than the ancient Egyptian dynasties.

But all of that is endless discussion and irrelevant to the tariff you talk about. I just want to see the official source. Not only your assumptions with reference to greed/exploitation.
If it's a contract between UN and Israel government, which IS elected democratic, then there must be a source?

Fletch XXX · 06-05-2010, 05:32 AM

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Can you back that up?

Sort of sounds like the US with Afghanistan. Sometimes you create a monster to accomlish your own goals.

or Saddam, its all the same shit.

roly · 06-05-2010, 06:07 AM

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He was on a ship that intentionally violated international law.

This happens every day in US waters, and if a ship fails to stop it is physically stopped by the coast guard and boarded with guns drawn.

whether the blockade is legal or not under international law is one thing. but its undeniable that its morally wrong to collectively punish all the people there for voting for a democratically elected government (whatever your views on them). if the blockade was to just check for hidden arms why is most stuff banned and the israelis won't say to aid agency's what is allowed and treat it on a case by case basis, and the banned list changes by the day:

"The few items merchants are allowed to trade in are divided into three categories: food, medicine and detergent. Everything else is forbidden - including building materials (which are necessary to rehabilitate Gaza's ruins and rebuild its infrastructure), electric appliances such as refrigerators and washing machines, spare machine and car parts, fabrics, threads, needles, light bulbs, candles, matches, books, musical instruments, crayons, clothing, shoes, mattresses, sheets, blankets, cutlery, crockery, cups, glasses and animals. Many of the banned products are imported through the tunnels and can be found in Gaza's markets.

Pasta, which had been forbidden in the past, is now allowed, after U.S. Senator John Kerry expressed his astonishment at the ban during a visit to Gaza in February. But tea, coffee, sausages, semolina, milk products in large packages and most baking products are forbidden. So are industrial commodities for manufacturing food products, chocolate, sesame seeds and nuts. Israel does allow importing fruit, milk products in small packages and frozen food products as well as limited amounts of industrial fuel."

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-gaza-1.276147

even the minimal array of food etc that is allowed through is only 25% of what is needed by the people there according to the UN. israel is doing more harm than good to their already poor international reputation. the blockade is nothing to do with arm smuggling and is all to do with oppression of the palestinian people.

Joshua G · 06-05-2010, 06:25 AM

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What you FAIL to realize is the Germans did not do these atrocities overnight. It was a progression and how there were able to march 6 million Jews to their death.

WAKE UP

OK...so what your implying is the jews are planning a final solution? If you think that an unjust occupation is the same as a holocaust, then i can't really talk to you anymore than zyklon-B denier mayabong.

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 06:36 AM

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Look it up... I followed off the many links on drudge report.

I searched for 'tariff' on their site, and there were only 3 results. They were all about China.

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Anyways, The Druze adopted only PARTS of the Islamic religion during the ottoman empire and that was so they could stay alive.

Their religion is much older then Judaism and ironically the old testament mirrors much of it.

The Wikipedia article you refering to says Druze was funded in 1014. How old do you think Judaism is?

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75.4% of the country is Jewish (democratic)

Well, if you have lived there, you should also know they do not vote on religions, but political parties. They have many parties and the two major ones have usually 40-50% of the votes. Any taxes and issues concerning their economy is formed through creations of laws. That's democracy, and thats why I asked for an official source - not just some assumption you "read somewhere - look it up".

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 07:30 AM

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It's there

Where? Why don't you just show me??

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BTW did you read up on how the Israeli commando shot an American 4x in the head (on that aid ship) because of concrete and school books?

Yes, there is nothing odd by headshots. It was dark and they shot life treatening attackers at close range. That proves they shot selective and not randomly. And there is nothing odd with 4 bullets, if the soldier used full or semi-automatic weapon.
As an ex-navy soldier, I know that. But I also know they should have used gas. But this was the last ship and maybe they did not expect deadly treats from an "aid" ship.

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Not founded but first recognized. I noticed you chose to neglect a comment on the seizure of their land.

You said before Judaism. As far I know, Judaism is several thousands years old...
And it's total irrelevant for what I want: the source of what you claim.

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You miss the point. All majority political parties are Jews. Keep trying ...

No, the point is: They have POLITICAL parties that create POLICY. So any tax/tariff regarding their economy and foreign affairs is also debated and implemented into a WRITTEN law. You ask WHY they do that. No one can give an answer, unless that is not the case. So again: WHERE is that tariff?

femdomdestiny · 06-05-2010, 09:31 AM

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Again, I can go down the line and punch holes in all the points you've made here but that was not my point. My point was/is Americans are not the reason Kosovo/Serbs are in the situation they are today. Kosovo/Serbs actually had choices to completely avoid this situation and they ignored the warnings and thought it was a bluff and now they are paying the consequences. Simple?

As mentioned, I (personalty) don't care what happened there and the first Albanian I ever met was in Yugoslavia and a total douche. I was 18 years old and just crossed from Greece and we shared a train cabin. This Albanian brought/bought a lot of crap from Greece ie., batteries, Blankets, food, umbrellas, shoes, ETC.

Anyway, I noticed he was pushing his crap close to mine in the luggage compartment of the train cabin. Sure enough, the train stopped and Yugoslav customs boarded and then asked who's stuff (his) this was. I pointed to my backpack and the Albanian dude did not say a word. So the customs agent then took me off the train so I could pay import tax on the Albanian dudes crap.

I told them it was not mine and they told me I have to pay of they will seize the stuff. I said sure, take it, you can have it. Can I go? As I am walking back to the train the Albanian guy sees me (without his stuff) and flies into a rage and runs to the customs agent office. Again, I get pulled off the train and this time customs tell me I need to pay the Albanians tax because half of that crap was his and said we were partners.

This was a great setup because ether you pay or miss your train arguing. Fuck it, I am a tourist and decided to argue as my train pulled out of the station. I argued with those fools for 3 hours and in the end I had to pay $22 for over-staying my Greek visa although I am in Yugoslavia! Then I tried to hop the next train to Austria and find out it won't be there until Tuesday and it was Friday. Fun.

Why did I tell you this story? Because I don't need you to tell me the corrupt practices of the Muslims Albanians. I know I lived it. You people will argue a point all the way to where the original subject was long forgotten just to be "right"....... just like this thread.

Yep, you are in right,conflicts often goes so far that you stop remembering why and when they started.As you know, I don't like them,but it could be Albanian,Serb, Croat, Dutch,Russian....I also know some fine Albanian people (even worked with some), that are paying taxes and running their business in Serbia, and never had problems.So basically, my opinion is that poor economic situation and bad education almost always will make violence at the end, and people (any religion) unsatisfied with their lifestyle (as far as I know, Kosovo was always poorest region in Ex- Yugoslavia a while rest of republic gave money for them) is easy to push into something much worse, like it was there and probably at many more places on our planet in this moment.

femdomdestiny · 06-05-2010, 09:40 AM

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Conceptually yes, but not to kill them just push them out of Israel. Here's why. It's simple mathematics because Israelis have 1-2 kids on average and Palestinians have 5. They can never join and live in Peace because it's a matter of time before the Palestinians would become the voting majority.

Yep, and that is what will also happen in Europe in future and it already happened in some regions. Actually,if something radical don't happen, Muslims will prevail. Maybe Solution would be giving them better life and education and then they would understand that having much kids is not so easy task,just to make them, but to give them all kids really need : love,education, culture, health,fun...problem is that most of them will refuse all this because of religious beliefs.

smutnut · 06-05-2010, 01:20 PM

Bill Maher was trying to soft play this last night on REAL TIME. I liked this little homo a lot better when Bush was President.

Dirty Dane · 06-05-2010, 07:26 PM

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And they did. SO if you don't believe me PROVE there is not a tariff. It is just as easy to prove there is NOT one.......... so prove me wrong. If you don't you JEW are dismissed

You haven't provided proof and I can't find anything about what you claim. YOU made an accusation, so YOU have to provide it. That's how it works in this world.

Rochard · 06-05-2010, 09:44 PM

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whether the blockade is legal or not under international law is one thing. but its undeniable that its morally wrong to collectively punish all the people there for voting for a democratically elected government (whatever your views on them). if the blockade was to just check for hidden arms why is most stuff banned and the israelis won't say to aid agency's what is allowed and treat it on a case by case basis, and the banned list changes by the day:

"The few items merchants are allowed to trade in are divided into three categories: food, medicine and detergent. Everything else is forbidden - including building materials (which are necessary to rehabilitate Gaza's ruins and rebuild its infrastructure), electric appliances such as refrigerators and washing machines, spare machine and car parts, fabrics, threads, needles, light bulbs, candles, matches, books, musical instruments, crayons, clothing, shoes, mattresses, sheets, blankets, cutlery, crockery, cups, glasses and animals. Many of the banned products are imported through the tunnels and can be found in Gaza's markets.

Pasta, which had been forbidden in the past, is now allowed, after U.S. Senator John Kerry expressed his astonishment at the ban during a visit to Gaza in February. But tea, coffee, sausages, semolina, milk products in large packages and most baking products are forbidden. So are industrial commodities for manufacturing food products, chocolate, sesame seeds and nuts. Israel does allow importing fruit, milk products in small packages and frozen food products as well as limited amounts of industrial fuel."

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...-gaza-1.276147

even the minimal array of food etc that is allowed through is only 25% of what is needed by the people there according to the UN. israel is doing more harm than good to their already poor international reputation. the blockade is nothing to do with arm smuggling and is all to do with oppression of the palestinian people.

I fail to understand why they wouldn't allow pasta, or any type of food.

It's very clear what Israel is doing here. They are trying push them out. And they are, very slowly. It's really rather cleaver really. A missile hits Israel, and they put a blockade around the entire area, starving them, and denying them basic comfort creatures like sneakers and what not - making them miserable. Their intention is to get them all to leave the Gaza strip.

mayabong · 06-05-2010, 10:44 PM

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I fail to understand why they wouldn't allow pasta, or any type of food.

It's very clear what Israel is doing here. They are trying push them out. And they are, very slowly. It's really rather cleaver really. A missile hits Israel, and they put a blockade around the entire area, starving them, and denying them basic comfort creatures like sneakers and what not - making them miserable. Their intention is to get them all to leave the Gaza strip.

Its a great soap opera and very exciting weather you're pro israeli or pro palestenian its been a great series, wonder how many more seasons it will go. Its all an illusion really for everyones enjoyment. Am I sounding too hippy here?

Dirty Dane · 06-06-2010, 12:02 AM

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This is not an accusation or opinion. It's fact, just like how I knew concrete/cement was on the blockade embargo list. I want you to find it because no matter what I link you will suspect it's authenticity or relevance or not being "official" enough for YOU.. Dane, I was serious when I said I lived in Israel and know all the Jew tricks. But you do have the option to prove me wrong by producing an "official" non-tariff goods from aid ships and a link will be fine.

What you actually say is the same logic, as if I told you;
"He is a murderer. Trust me, I know it. I can't provide you a body, but prove me if I'm wrong"
How can you "prove" I'm wrong?

Give me anything. At least then I can make up an opinion on the subject. With nothing at all, it's just an empty accusation. A rumor.

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,392	Looks like Israel just boarded another ship - From Yahoo news: GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories (AFP) ? An international aid ship en route for the Gaza Strip was intercepted by Israeli troops early on Saturday, the Gaza-based committee awating the vessel told AFP. "The Rachel Corrie has been intercepted 35 miles off Gaza," a spokesman for the welcoming committee told AFP in Gaza City. A Dublin based spokesman for the vessel, which is carrying 15 people and tonnes of aid for Gaza, could not confirm the information and said he had not been in contact with the boat. The Israeli army was also unable to confirm the information. What I find most interesting is we have a location this time - 35 miles out at sea. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

06-04-2010, 09:38 PM	#751
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	people should just stay away from comparing anyone to the nazis. its intellectually lazy. When you feel really depressed about your life, do some in depth reading on what the nazis did to the jews - The mengele stuff, the warsaw ghetto, the 1945 death march, throwing living jews into ovens. If you got gassed you got off easy. Raiding a flotilla of rabblerousers was a dumbass move. I expect more from a race that prides itself on its brains & creativity. But step off with the nazi shit.

06-04-2010, 09:54 PM	#755
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	just my opinion, its not a "fact" but israel wouldnt be fucking up this badly if Obama wasn't such a huge vagina. As soon as the Israelis said "fuck you" when Obama demanded no more settlement construction, & the pussy in chief shrugged, the Shas knew they could do whatever the fuck they wanted. Hence the biden debacle, the flotilla debacle, & numerous other debacles coming down the line when the US president has no pull with Israel.

06-04-2010, 10:27 PM	#761
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	There will be no peace in Middle East as long Hamas and other radicals rules. When Palestine voted for Hamas they also chose suffering. The only way to aid their people is to distribute through a checkpoint and let some independant witness the aid is given.

06-04-2010, 11:22 PM	#767
BigDeanEvans So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,368	Hey T.D - is the last name Barsky, Jewish? Hmm another coininkydink

06-05-2010, 01:20 PM	#780
smutnut So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,889	Bill Maher was trying to soft play this last night on REAL TIME. I liked this little homo a lot better when Bush was President.