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Old 03-21-2010, 06:54 PM   #1
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The Majority Of Americans Want Tax Breaks For The Rich!

No they don't... just fucking with you!

You would have to be a total asshole to give tax breaks to the wealthiest 2% of Americans, costing the country over $2 trillion bucks, while the middle and lower classes have to work harder and harder for less.

What a silly idea that would be, right?
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The idea that someone from a lower class works harder is hilarious, but also expected from someone as delusional as you. Also, good advice for lower classes include "going to school to move up in the socioeconomic ladder." You're simple bft3k
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Hey douche! Looks like the healthcare bill you guaranteed would not pass, is going to pass! Should I call the whaaambulance for you?

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Where did I guarantee that? In fact i guaranteex it WOULD pass. Bft3k still proves that he can't read.
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It is true that the USA National Debt is about $12 Trillion.

This is what is says here: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Now, here is the list of top 10 countries with the most public debt:
(According to https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...as&rank=101#ch)


Public Debt as % of GDP

01) Zimbabwe 304.30%
02) Japan 192.10%
03) Saint Kitts and Nevis 185%
04) Lebanon 156%
05) Jamaica 137.1%
06) Singapore 117.6%
07) Italy 115.2%
08) Greece 108.1%
09) Sudan 104.5%
10) Belgium 99%

Countries with some of the lowest public debt as % of GDP:

Russia 6.9%
Equatorial Guinea 1.1%



United States of America has the world's #1 GDP at 14.2 Trillion.

with national debt as % of GDP of 39.70%.
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United States Balance Sheet can be found here:

http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus...nce_sheet.html
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Where did I guarantee that? In fact i guaranteex it WOULD pass. Bft3k still proves that he can't read.
I can read fine, it is you who can not type "i guaranteex it"
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The idea that someone from a lower class works harder is hilarious
You probably mistyped but I think it'd be pretty easy to find at least one person in a "lower class" which works harder than say, a kid from a wealthy family. The idea that everyone from a lower class works harder, is hilarious though.
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And speaking of misdirection, the idea of "which class works harder" is not even the topic of this thread.
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no matter...the USA is never going to pay back the debt at this point. The only question is when the dollar turns into toilet paper.
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I can read fine, it is you who can not type "i guaranteex it"
Haha so I prove the moron wrong, and his only recourse is a spelling mistake. HAHAHA
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And speaking of misdirection, the idea of "which class works harder" is not even the topic of this thread.
Good point. I believe in tax breaks for the upper class if and only if there's an implication of benefiting the economy--small to medium business owners, for instance.
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You probably mistyped but I think it'd be pretty easy to find at least one person in a "lower class" which works harder than say, a kid from a wealthy family. The idea that everyone from a lower class works harder, is hilarious though.
I didn't mistype, I meant the latter portion of your statement.
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And speaking of misdirection, the idea of "which class works harder" is not even the topic of this thread.
Yea, this would be a great point had you not said

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while the middle and lower classes have to work harder and harder for less.
Good LORD you're a moron lol.
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no matter...the USA is never going to pay back the debt at this point. The only question is when the dollar turns into toilet paper.
It's a question of when. I have most of my investments in precious metals. Great safeguard against fiat currency.
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Haha so I prove the moron wrong, and his only recourse is a spelling mistake. HAHAHA
You "proved" nothing.

You NEVER prove ANYTHING!

You are just a delusional dingbat, with nothing to offer.

Only in your own tiny mind, do you ever "win" or "prove" or "own" anything.

You really need professional help... unless, as I always assume, you are already posting from within the walls of some sort of institution.
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It's a question of when. I have most of my investments in precious metals. Great safeguard against fiat currency.
The only precious metal you have is a metal plate in your fucking head, that was inserted to cover up your lobotomy surgery.
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It's a question of when. I have most of my investments in precious metals. Great safeguard against fiat currency.
i like oil. the oil companies are getting back to their price gouging...
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And speaking of misdirection, the idea of "which class works harder" is not even the topic of this thread.
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while the middle and lower classes have to work harder and harder for less.
Yea, you're definitely a moron. Owned.
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i like oil. the oil companies are getting back to their price gouging...
I like it only because I think we're at peak oil. With the ever falling dollar and euro, oil prices are going to skyrocket.
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Yea, you're definitely a moron. Owned.
This thread was to point out the irony of "what the majority of the American people want".

The majority of the people did not want, or benefit from, Bush's $2.5 trillion dollar tax breaks for the rich, but when that shit was "getting shoved down the throats of the Americans" your side didn't say shit!

You are easily the dumbest fucker on this board.

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This thread was to point out the irony of "what the majority of the American people want".

The majority of the people did not want, or benefit from, Bush's $2.5 trillion dollar tax breaks for the rich, but when that shit was "getting shoved down the throats of the Americans" your side didn't say shit!

You are easily the dumbest fucker on this board.
I can't possibly be dumber than you. Making shit up, contradicting yourself, and getting ridiculed, the typical day for the moron that is BFT3K.

Btw your post made no sense, nor has any relevance. Continue being stupid
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I can't possibly be dumber than you.
Sorry to break it to you, but....
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Sorry to break it to you, but....
I don't think you've ever been as obvious as you have been in this thread. I honestly don't think you even know where you are at this point. Moron ROFL
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I don't think you've ever been as obvious as you have been in this thread.
The only thing"obvious" about my threads, is that an idiot that goes by the name "the demon" will instantly jump in, and offer nothing.

You are like a moth, flying into a lightbulb and bouncing off - over and over...
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The only thing"obvious" about my threads, is that an idiot that goes by the name "the demon" will instantly jump in, and offer nothing.

You are like a moth, flying into a lightbulb and bouncing off - over and over...
Sure. And you're like a prepubescent retard who somehow got access to a computer.
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Sure. And you're like a prepubescent retard who somehow got access to a computer.
Your comebacks just get dumber and dumber by the day.
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Your comebacks just get dumber and dumber by the day.
No need for comebacks for somebody who is stupid enough to forget what he posted 5 minutes ago
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Taxing the rich more is fucking stupid. Everyone should pay the same amount of taxes. I do not use the roads or hospitals any more then a less wealthy person does, yet I have to pay more for them as a reward for being able to make something of my life and make good money.

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It's a question of when. I have most of my investments in precious metals. Great safeguard against fiat currency.


Your high school ring from 1922? I'd love to see how far that gets you.
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I have a dream.

It involves me, fatfoo and the demon locked in a room with a bag of angel dust and a hammer.

Ill be leaving that room in a pretty sweater made of their entrails.
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Lets make it real simple.

Flat tax based on consumption.

Not only does it level the playing field, it also encourages saving.
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Taxing the rich more is fucking stupid. Everyone should pay the same amount of taxes. I do not use the roads or hospitals any more then a less wealthy person does, yet I have to pay more for them as a reward for being able to make something of my life and make good money.

but but but... you work hard therefore we can tax you more.
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It involves me, fatfoo and the demon locked in a room with a bag of angel dust and a hammer.

Ill be leaving that room in a pretty sweater made of their entrails.
You go, Rodney King!
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Why do you even bother debating this fucking mongoloid. By doing so you only give him the impression that his opinion is valid enough to be addressed. The ONLY thing the demon should be doing is picking his fucking teeth up from the floor.
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Let's get something straight. None of us on this forum work hard.

Work smart, yes. Hard? No.

Working hard involves Chinese sweatshops, oil wells, coal mines and the like.

Many blue collar workers work harder than any of us do.

One thing that I rarely see argued is the need for a class system in America. We need the janitors, the coal mine workers, etc. just as much as we need the guy that gets paid to sit on his ass and think all day.

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no matter...the USA is never going to pay back the debt at this point. The only question is when the dollar turns into toilet paper.
Most countries cannot can pay their debts, thats not the purpose of debts at all. Debts were made to provide stable long term income to those who lend.
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Thats why I love my country, everyone pays 19% tax, no matter if they make $10k a year or $100mil. Thats just fair, the rich person pays more taxes anyway, as he pays them from a higher income.
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Thats why I love my country, everyone pays 19% tax, no matter if they make $10k a year or $100mil. Thats just fair, the rich person pays more taxes anyway, as he pays them from a higher income.
Ahh but you see, this is not fair at all. My country also has 19% flat tax rate, or you can do 18% up to around $15k and 32% thereafter.

Let me use myself as an example here. Poland is a fairly poor country, and i easily make 20 times what the average person here does monthly (the real average wages here are maybe 1/3rd what they claim they are...). I'm paying 20 times more tax then these people, and driving on the same uneven roads full of holes and using the same doctors and same hospitals. If i got some kind of special treatment, I would be fine with this. However, fact is that if something happens to me and i go to the hospital, I will have to wait in line behind alcoholic bums that stand in front of stores drinking every morning at 7am that do nothing but collect social assistance.

For it to be FAIR for me to pay 20x the tax the average person does, I should either be getting preferencial treatment, my own seperate roads or at the very least i should get some kind of remote control so I dont have to wait at red lights or always have right of way (It's not my problem how this will work logistically, they have people to figure this out). I am worth more to the country, and I should be treated as such
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k0nr4d: Well, yes, but what if you were in a country which took 50% or more of your income with that amount of earnings? And most western socialistic countries do that. You can have either of those options or move to an offshore island, where taxes are fixed.
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You do realise the top 50% of income earners pay 96% of tax don't you. Hell the top 1% pay 40% of tax over there.

You keep trying to farm the wealthy, you might convince them to get out and leave your broke ass to pick up the tab they have been picking up for you for years. The funniest thing is how lower class people seem to think the wealthy achievers owe them something.
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You do realise the top 50% of income earners pay 96% of tax don't you. Hell the top 1% pay 40% of tax over there.

You keep trying to farm the wealthy, you might convince them to get out and leave your broke ass to pick up the tab they have been picking up for you for years. The funniest thing is how lower class people seem to think the wealthy achievers owe them something.
Exactly. If i have to pay 20k more then them in taxes year that is still 20k i would rather have spent on somethng else regardless of how much i made. With the amount of taxes I pay MORE then my alcohol neighbor across the street I could buy a very decent car every year. Yet i apparently owe him something because I work for a living and he crawls home on all 4s every second day at 7 or 8am (I'm not joking either, I gotta film it some time heh). On top of that, come end of the year who is going to get an audit? Me of course, not him. They will send people to my office to make sure I have all the things I wrote off on my company, and try to find any little fucking hole or problem possible to try to milk even more out of me.
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Exactly. If i have to pay 20k more then them in taxes year that is still 20k i would rather have spent on somethng else regardless of how much i made. With the amount of taxes I pay MORE then my alcohol neighbor across the street I could buy a very decent car every year. Yet i apparently owe him something because I work for a living and he crawls home on all 4s every second day at 7 or 8am (I'm not joking either, I gotta film it some time heh). On top of that, come end of the year who is going to get an audit? Me of course, not him. They will send people to my office to make sure I have all the things I wrote off on my company, and try to find any little fucking hole or problem possible to try to milk even more out of me.
Yeah i agree, but there needs to be a balance. I am all for paying a bit more tax, and especially contributing a bit more so we have a good hospital system that anyone can use despite income ... i believe that a healthy population is good for a country. Its an investment of sorts.

BUT the line needs to be drawn somewhere. Eventually if you leech off the wealthy people who have studied for years, or worked hard to get where they are then those people will leave for places that don't have idiotic tax schemes. If someone is stupid enough to drink themselves into a stupor every night then they should eventually be refused treatment. People need to take responsibility for their own actions (or inaction)!!
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*IF* we had decent roads and decent hospitals, and decent ANYTHING, I would not mind so much. However, all I can see my tax money going to is to pay people to come audit me so they can juice me for even more. I even got a ticket for not having my invoices written in Polish ($50, but its the principle of the thing. English is an official language here and I only got the ticket so that the auditer can get a bonus as they do for every problem they "find"). To take a ticket to court here costs over $1000 which you have to pay only if you lose, so its not worth risking over $50. They seem to not realize that I am not a little corner store or a farmer, I have no domestic clients and do not need to take their shit. I would leave the country but my gf is an ortodontist and has to work in her field for 3 years before she can transfer her medical license elsewhere, so I have to live with this for at least 1 more year.

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Many wealthy people started off as middle class or less. However once they achieve the wealthy status they often do things like move offshore to avoid taxes completely which is a smack in the face to the average tax payer who pays in year in and year out.
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Why do you even bother debating this fucking mongoloid. By doing so you only give him the impression that his opinion is valid enough to be addressed. The ONLY thing the demon should be doing is picking his fucking teeth up from the floor.
I bet you hear this a lot from your friends(internet friends), but you're a moron
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