Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16941321)

i was in high-end men's apparel sales for 10 years and this is simply not true.

i've sold $10,000 suits to many people who have gotten rich that had no idea about clothing and previously dressed like shit.

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16941340)

Let me re-phrase that. Not all people change the way they dress because they have money.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16941321)

i was in high-end men's apparel sales for 10 years and this is simply not true.

i've sold $10,000 suits to many people who have gotten rich that had no idea about clothing and previously dressed like shit.

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 16939831)

Dude, you made your money when 1 gallery listing could make over a g, easy.


I love this quote:

"How many times have you bumped into someone that changed your life?"

Uhh, often.

Also, when the REALLY important people meet you, do you want to make a good impression, or do you want them thinking:

"Holy fuck, he doesn't shave, and dresses like his mom takes him shopping."


It's pretty easy to say you'll dress how you want to when you've already made your money.

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16941131)

I've dresses this way from the day I was bouncing $20.00 checks till today. Nothing has changed about me except I have financial security. That's it. People don't change the way they dress because they have money.

My mom has commented a few times that she wanted to give me some money to go by jeans without holes in it. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16941568)

I think it is safe to assume that you wont do business with someone who isn't dressed nice from all of your posts, since you judge people how they are dressed. While you think the way people dress is a reflection of their class and wealth, if you think salesman should deny people service because they are not properly dressed then I would assume that you would do the same, correct?

I wonder how much business you have passed up and how much it has cost YOU, if you really feel this way.

I don't give a fuck what you wearing, I care about making money. You could be wearing a pink skirt with poker dots, if we can do business together and make some money then i am all for it. How old are you? you sound like you are in your early twenties?

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16941545)

A good example is sports athletes and lottery winners, most of which never had a pot to piss in before, the moment they get a big pile of cash they spend the fuck out of it. They are more worried about everyone knowing they are rich than they are worried about being rich (or staying rich). People like that spend 10K on a suit so they can go tell everyone how much they paid for their suit.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16941545)

yeah and they are probably broke now.

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 16941857)

Sounds like you've made some real serious personal growth.

Basically, you're saying you have very little personality or style. Dry like a math teacher.

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 16941879)

I'd rather deal with someone in a suit, then someone who shows up dressed in a hoody and ratty jeans with white runners.

I suppose you'd be fine if Obama showed up on TV in a basketball jersey, shorts, and Air Jordan shoes?

Will, for someone with a brain, you sure seem clueless about social shit. Do you get out much?

If I go, in person, to do business, and the other person dresses like they don't give a shit, why would *I* give a shit?

Face it, your clothing and looks are important metrics on which to judge someone with, and it has been this way for thousands of years.

Originally Posted by iguess (Post 16939353)

I was going to buy my truck Z71 38K
I was going to different dealerships, so I was looking for my particular truck I wanted w/ the options I wanted.. So I was riding in my old whodew w/mud all on the car and shit. I didn't cut my fucking hair nor comb it.. Shit to add on to that I was getting out of my car putting my chair together. My own kind ''black folks'' wouldn't say shit.. So I went to texas the dealer was being aggressive so I cuss hiss hillbill ass out.. Then I went to houston one guy finally got everything I wanted and I gave him cash on site..

Now I go to dealerships when I get the urged and get by the fully loaded cars and hit my airbags on my truck so all the salesman come running thinking I want to buy a vehicle and when they get close enough I politely leave.. haha

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16939006)

you want my sale, you better be sucking my dick. it's a buyers market, and i'm the one buying.

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 16942572)

No, its not. Unless your buying a cheap car that is. If thats the case, not worth the salespersons time. Any car of value is pretty hot right now, as the factories arent really building alot. Supply and Demand my friend. This is based on knowledge of the NY area. Perhaps diff in other areas, I dont know.

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16942578)

i'm going to buy something new in the month, for sure. you can literally check out every dealership now online, and drive the price down. i did just that for my new subaru, and i did it for my 911.

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16942574)

wrong. they are offering 911's and R8's at great discounts right now.

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16942578)

i'm going to buy something new in the month, for sure. you can literally check out every dealership now online, and drive the price down. i did just that for my new subaru, and i did it for my 911.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 16935887)

anyone notice a similarity in these stories? They all end up with the person buying from the same place anyway...

If I owned a dealership I would go out on the floor myself and be the 'judgmental' asshole that would ignore everyone and treat them like they were nobody and then i would send out my bleeding heart salesman to coddle them and to close the deal... seems like people, men especially, are so proud that they will buy even if they can't afford it just to prove a point! :) Sounds like a good cop bad cop sales ploy from the get go...

Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris (Post 16939070)

This goes back a few years when I was working in online gaming.

A friend of mine named Rob and I were out cruising. I had taken the day off b/c I accrued too much OT and opted for a couple lieu days. We went to the the Audi dealership to drop off his TT for yet another recall and we walked over to the BMW dealership to look at some special M5 he heard they had. I was wearing just some ratty jeans and a regular short sleeve shirt. My friend Rob was dressed in his usual summer attire, a wife beater, cargo shorts and flipflops.

We walk in and head over to the where the M5 is in the show room. The doors are locked and nobody is coming up or giving us the time of day for 10 minutes. He looks over at the only sales guy not busy that's just standing with a coffee cup in his hand looking at us and and pretty much shouts "A little help here would be nice!".
Everyone in the dealership just quiets down and starts staring at us. Rob then say "Oh right my bad", reaches in his pocket, takes out a tie and puts it around his neck and say "How about now?" The sales guy just turns around and sits at his desk.

I just died laughing at this point. I was certain the cops were going to show up any minute. My buddy was mad at this point.

Now when I tell you Rob is a smooth talker, he's a fucking smooth talker! He could go to Bestbuy and order a $200 13" tv and have them deliver it and set it up for free, that's how good he was. He already knew there was a good chance he wouldn't be taken seriously upon walking into BMW, so he purposely put a tie in his pocket just to say and do this. It didn't go quite as planned however, as he expected the sales guy to come over and at least say something.

The receptionist looked like she was laughing at the scenario so we head over to her and my buddy asks if there's anyone that can help him outside of the "coffee cup douche over there". She said the other two sales people were currently occupied and before she could finish, he reaches down and grab out the wad of cash he had on him which was $20k.

He plops $300 down and asks her to please have the owner come down here and its yours. She called the owner but insisted not taking the $300. At this point "coffee cup douche" comes over after seeing Rob put the money back in his pocket and asks if he needs some assistance with the M5.

Rob looks at him and tells him "You're kidding me right? You had your chance and blew it. Here (he takes off the tie and gives it to him) you can have this and wear it when you explain to your wife why you're bringing home spam for dinner tonight"
About half-way through him telling "coffee cup douche" this, the owner of the dealership came around the corner and saw him handing the tie over.

My buddy then looks at the owner, shakes his hand while introducing himself politely and says "I have three requests: 1) I would like the keys for the M5 to look inside and take it for a quick test drive. 2) If I like it then I will put $20k cash down right now and bring the rest of the cash price we have negotiated on within an hour and 3) All the commisision goes to the receptionist."

The owner chucked and said "With pleasure, let me grab the keys, a dealer plate and get the show door open and let's go for a ride."

The owner personally drove us to get a certified check for the remainder of the purchase price Rob negotiated down, took us for lunch, threw in a ton of extra's for cleaning, scotchguarding, extended maintenance warrenty etc, and threw in a bunch of free swag from the parts store.

The receptionist got the commission as requested and the owner even brought her in during the whole process to have her "learn the ropes". She ended up getting promoted a few months later and 'coffee cup douche' was let go.

Unfortunately the car met with an unfortunate end a couple years later when an Escalade ran a red and t-boned it on the passenger side.

Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 16935834)

Walked into a small town dealership to buy a car back in the late 80's. I had 15k cash with me and knew the car I was going to buy. I was wearing an ACDC tee and my jeans had a hole in the knee, (still today 90% of my jeans have the same damn hole) Anyways.. after standing around for about 30 minutes I finally asked a guy what the deal was. I said I wanted to buy a car. He kind of gave me the "what the fuck ever" look and pointed out the window to the $500 or cheaper lot and told me that all they had. and walked away. I was fuming. So I went down half a block to another dealer. (who where actually friendly to me) and did the same thing. The guy was cool, told me all about th car etc and I bought it on the spot and paid for it in full. I then drove it back to the 1st dealer and ask for the manager and told him my story and showed him my purchase contract and told him the reason he lost the sale. They fired the sales man.

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16942798)

the magnitude of everyone here trying to pretend they have a bigger dick than the rest is hilarious.

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16942625)

About 6 months ago I wanted a new Truck, I've had my eyes on the new Hemi Dodge's since I pull a lot of stuff, trailers, boats, etc.

So I walked in and the price was high, not really but I told them it was. I had done my research online, I told them Toyota is offering a great deal but as an American, I wanted to buy an American Truck. (Even though all my other cars aren't. lol) So I told him I was just looking and the price was too high, he brought his manager over and said we want to make sure you drive this truck out today. I was dressed like I always dress...Huggles, :Oh crap

I offered them $8K lower than the asking price and they said no way and that I was crazy, I gave them my number and said if you change your mind or if the truck doesn't sell in a month or so to call me back.

I started walking back to my car (which they didn't see what I was driving, huggles..) and still kissed my ass and had to team work for me to bite.

They took off 4K at first, then 5K then 6K then finally 7K and I bought it.

They didn't judge me on how I was dressed, everyone should be like that. They made money and I got what I wanted. One big happy family.

Not the exact truck, Mine is silver.

http://www.moparregister.com/article...am%20Sport.jpg

Originally Posted by Horny Joe (Post 16943301)

Ferrari's, Bentley's... Damn, wish I could afford that :) A year ago I wanted to buy a "new" used car... Dressed in casual sportswear.. Just noticed that the older salesmen ignored me but one young guy came over, gave me the keys to a car and sent me off to test the car. I came back one hour later, paid the $52k they asked for and went home. Guess that story was not so special :D but hey, I don't buy cars that often

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16943383)

here's the fact not mentioned, most car salesmen are shitheads- that's why they are stuck selling cars.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16943383)

here's the fact not mentioned, most car salesmen are shitheads- that's why they are stuck selling cars.

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 16944174)

I sold cars in '93...I have 2 college degrees and was selling anywhere from 40-75 a month. Made ALOT of money. How did you do 17 years ago? I love the hate car salesmen threads. Cracks me up reading them..

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 16944196)

That's not bad at all. What is the average commission per car? Just curious. That's a lot of cars. I don't know anyone that sells that many. I don't think most dealerships sell that many.

What kind of cars were you selling?

I was 23 17 years ago and self employed so I was doing decent. But I doubt as good as you.

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 16944174)

I sold cars in '93...I have 2 college degrees and was selling anywhere from 40-75 a month. Made ALOT of money. How did you do 17 years ago? I love the hate car salesmen threads. Cracks me up reading them..

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 16944229)

I was self employed. Set up an Internet sales dept, 2 asst's 3 drivers on a 50/50 split with the dealership. I did well. That was the height and birth of Internet sales. Was easy as hell too. People thought they were techies if they bought a car over the net. I was in a dodge/jeep/chrysler/ford store.

On new cars I'd say avg commision is between 150-500 and used is 300-900/unit. Most stores in the NY area are doing well. I know ones that are doing only 60/month and I know 2 that are pushing 350 and 600 on avg. Those are pretty nice stores.

Low end sales guys make 50-60k while the ones with talent and a following will easily earn 150k+++ One of my close friends has made 250k+ for the last 10 years. Crazy..

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16944310)

17 years ago i was selling high end clothing catering to very upscale clientele, and was doing very well, thank you for asking.

i don't feel the need to play e-penis, else i would post my salaries made, resume, education and list of toys in my sig.

as i mentioned *MOST* car salesmen are deadbeats hired off the street with no sales credentials, minimum education and very little training prior to being released on the showroom, you should know that with all your education and car sales experience.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16944311)

automobile sales via the internet has nothing to do with showroom floor sales. period.

as you say yourself, easy as hell. fuck, i just sold a car on the internet a few days ago. 20 pictures, 2 videos and some clever text and had a bidding war.

easy as pie.