$100k/day MERCHANT PROCESSING: mid to high risk, no rebills, need company not idiots - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

pamon · 02-14-2010, 01:58 AM

ok, so 50 posts into the thread and no mention of what kind of product is pushing those kind of dollars across a MA. Even at 10k/day, you should be able to attract some major banks attention for a MA unless its gambling, adult, or pharmacy related.

Turf · 02-14-2010, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

I have a project that can be upwards of $100k/day. this has been tested. we are pushing lower $xx,xxx numbers at 10% capacity.

our last merchant told us there is no limits. then once we pushed the volume all of a sudden our "rep" doesnt work there anymore and they now have limits. so they are now holding our funds. i am not going to mention names until we seek legal council and move from there.

anyway that is beside the point.

we need a merchant processor that is going to sit down with us and make it happen. we can fly out to wherever the fuck you are, sit down and we can develop the process to make sure it has the most legitimate setup to help your company manage risk.

frankly i am tired of talking to idiot reps who talk alot and do not know shit. i need someone who knows their shit and can provide ANSWERS! not "let me check with "insert made up department here""

i have heard that after the ACAI bullshit shit has hit the fan for alot of processors. we are NOT doing ACAI and i will NOT discuss my process here.

so in short we need a processor with balls that is going to work with us and is not afraid of volume who understands risk management and what it means to spread out that risk. if you need limits FINE lets work together and sort something out. there is to much cash on the table.

post here if you would like me to contact you. we are shopping around NOW.

Hi,

If you are still looking for an account hit me up and i will find one for you that will keep going..

mickey.thomsen at at at gmail.com

CaptainHowdy · 02-14-2010, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

...

MetaMan · 02-14-2010, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamon

ok, so 50 posts into the thread and no mention of what kind of product is pushing those kind of dollars across a MA. Even at 10k/day, you should be able to attract some major banks attention for a MA unless its gambling, adult, or pharmacy related.

ya dude that totally makes sense!

may as well tell people my product when i have no need for affiliates. makes total sense!

hey everyone here is my idea so you can copy it. especially since getting merchant accounts from banks are so easy!

it is along the same mid to high risk as gambling, adult, or pharm. thus why i am on an adult message board posting about it.

but hey it is not like Visa and Mastercard this past month arent slapping down even the most legitimate sites with years of history. Because hey processing large amounts is just easy. you walk into a bank and boom your done!

MetaMan · 02-14-2010, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Bingo!

Plus, that rep may have changed some numbers on that application to get you approved. A lot of the MA sales guys just want to hit numbers.

Meaning someone could have put in $3 million a month in processing and he turned around and entered it into the computer as $30,000.

I had a guy do that to me once when we made it all the way to printing out the contract. After discovering that the contract did not specify the numbers I did on the app, he said "oh, the numbers I put work better." OOOOOOK then. That's fine and dandy until you find yourself in your situation.

finally someone who knows the exact situation i am in.

5967Solutions · 02-14-2010, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

finally someone who knows the exact situation i am in.

Or some even classify as another business type to get approved under a low risk MCC code. Be very carefull and do your homework. If you want your own merchant account hit me up. There might be something we can do for your business needs.

MetaMan · 02-14-2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5967Solutions

Or some even classify as another business type to get approved under a low risk MCC code. Be very carefull and do your homework. If you want your own merchant account hit me up. There might be something we can do for your business needs.

ill be contacting people today and tomorrow.

Adult Media · 02-14-2010, 11:05 AM

MetaMan, I maybe way off the radar here but is someone like 2CO not suitable being that you mentioned that the product is mainstream?

baddog · 02-14-2010, 11:17 AM

So, you are still looking for someone? I may have someone for you.

MetaMan · 02-14-2010, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult Media

MetaMan, I maybe way off the radar here but is someone like 2CO not suitable being that you mentioned that the product is mainstream?

mainstream, i havent looked through 2checkout before i will have a look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

So, you are still looking for someone? I may have someone for you.

havent found anyone yet. havent had a chance to go through contacts past 24 hours. so yes we are still looking.

we are not going to bother just jumping in with just anyone again. we can tell within 5min of talking to people whether or not they know the deal. we need to talk to people that are willing to guide us through the step by step process. most people we have talked to go off about applications etc. this has nothing to do with managing risk. no point in applying if i already know the people who are handling our account do not have answers.

if nothing comes of this we are not going to bother. i dont mind taking a 40%+ pay cut if it involves getting things done properly. that is what our backup plan involves. less risk from our end.

baddog · 02-14-2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

havent found anyone yet. havent had a chance to go through contacts past 24 hours. so yes we are still looking.

we are not going to bother just jumping in with just anyone again.

These people have a 10 year track record. Let me talk to them before wasting your time. I will contact you if they are interested.

MetaMan · 02-14-2010, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

These people have a 10 year track record. Let me talk to them before wasting your time. I will contact you if they are interested.

thanks!

i wasnt implying your help or the people you know would waste my time. was just talking about my situation in general.

frustrating is all.

NETbilling · 02-14-2010, 07:29 PM

Metaman,

I am sure we can help you. We specialize in merchant account processing, no IPSP and the system we have been building for the past 11 years will give you the tools to succeed. Please contact us.

V_RocKs · 02-15-2010, 11:48 AM

Is it possible that your current processor was flooded with customer service calls when people saw charges they didn't realize would be there because you told them about the charges on a different page with a TOS link?

MetaMan · 02-15-2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Is it possible that your current processor was flooded with customer service calls when people saw charges they didn't realize would be there because you told them about the charges on a different page with a TOS link?

we have customer service setup with a call center. our reps discuss the entire process with each and every customer to clarify any questions. also offering refunds.

and yes we did of course had TOS setup. our process is clearly stated in multiple areas other then the fine print which they must also agree to.

we just talked to a rep today and she said the reason it was locked is that our account read "$5000 limit per month". even though our rep (that all of a sudden no longer works there anymore) told us it is unlimited. we have copies of these emails also. we were admittedly naive for trusting them and now we are currently paying the price. so is business.

also you would think that when you hit say even $5000 in one day when it is the month total allowed. that they would lock the account then. or at least inform you that your cap is reached. but yet they continue to accept charges 10x that amount.

things that make you go hmmm.

gleem · 02-15-2010, 12:01 PM

why not just spread it out across a bunch of accounts at once?

MetaMan · 02-15-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

Metaman,

I am sure we can help you. We specialize in merchant account processing, no IPSP and the system we have been building for the past 11 years will give you the tools to succeed. Please contact us.

netbilling is actually top of our list. we have talked around and heard nothing but good things for every type of client from your company.

today we are in limbo so we are still debating if processing is right for us atm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem

why not just spread it out across a bunch of accounts at once?

you are correct. but as a general newbie to billing like i said we admittedly got in over our heads. we need someone to help us with this process. and i do not even expect companies to spoon feed us even though i think the amount would be worth it.

if we cannot find a solution so is life. we are installing backup plans atm. it is a tough lesson learned but one i will not make again.

Wizzo · 02-15-2010, 12:27 PM

If any of your traffic is European, we have some solutions that could benefit you along side your CC processing, since most EU surfers don't even have a CC. Let me know.

_Richard_ · 02-15-2010, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

netbilling is actually top of our list. we have talked around and heard nothing but good things for every type of client from your company.

today we are in limbo so we are still debating if processing is right for us atm.

you are correct. but as a general newbie to billing like i said we admittedly got in over our heads. we need someone to help us with this process. and i do not even expect companies to spoon feed us even though i think the amount would be worth it.

if we cannot find a solution so is life. we are installing backup plans atm. it is a tough lesson learned but one i will not make again.

hit me up : 486786112

arock10 · 02-15-2010, 12:30 PM

please grow my penis 6 inches in a week

MetaMan · 02-15-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_

hit me up : 486786112

we have you on our list. havent contacted people since friday.

we are on hold and in limbo with the merchant now.

i appreciate all your responses and contacts. i will do my best to keep everyone updated on the situation. we currently have not decided our next plan of action. we want to see how the merchant is going to handle the situation and move from there.

baddog · 02-15-2010, 01:28 PM

Just an FYI: I did not forget about you, but they are closed today as it is a bank holiday. I will follow up tomorrow.

MetaMan · 02-15-2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Just an FYI: I did not forget about you, but they are closed today as it is a bank holiday. I will follow up tomorrow.

no prob baddog, i appreciate you even helping. we are still undecided if we are going to move forward with processing. it just seems like a big risk atm. do not feel rushed. we are looking for solid solutions that will work for both parties involved. so there is no need to rush.

we finally got through to the merchant after 1 week.

basically what they said it was because we went over our $5k limit in the month BUT we had proof that we were told that we had unlimited. and even though our process was approved (this was months ago) they said with all the new visa and mastercard regulations they are basically trying to limit risk which is understandable.

so they are releasing funds in increments. and managing those increments based on charge backs. so all and all it was not an entire loss. next time we have things set up we are going to make sure all loose ends are tied.

if i am not communicative with everyone just yet please understand we are still discussing our future plans as we do not want another headache like this.

i appreciate everyone's responses a lot of people have come forward and been extremely helpful. we have got you all written down and eventually we will re establish this same process once we have everything figured out. so we will still be doing follow ups.

once again thank you.

5967Solutions · 02-15-2010, 02:40 PM

If possible, hit me up tonight or tomorrow since I will be overseas the next few days visiting on of the banks we send business too.

V_RocKs · 02-15-2010, 04:20 PM

Well, I hope this time you wait and take 1 week to sort out the ups and downs of each offering on your plate.

You could be passing on $500K doing so, but in the end, 2 years from now you could get back $10,000,000 for the due diligence.

Sad shit.. You'd think your current processor would work with you to scale you up. Obviously you both don't want to leave money on the table. But, it appears you are currently working with a reseller of services. So they simply cannot give you what you want because they don't have the ability to.

Netbilling can handle you up to the millions. Mitch over there is kickass. The person Baddog is talking about can too. I don't think Richard would chime in unless he had reason to. He doesn't like to fuck around unless there is money to be made.

hmm... was just thinking you said a major player is fucking you... Would really love to know who they are.

Anyway, much luck to you. And remember the longer you take to pick a good processor the more likely you are to "bank" this unearned money as an investment towards the future.

MetaMan · 02-15-2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5967Solutions

If possible, hit me up tonight or tomorrow since I will be overseas the next few days visiting on of the banks we send business too.

havent been contacting people over the last few days. do not threat when things are sorted we will go through all our options including you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Well, I hope this time you wait and take 1 week to sort out the ups and downs of each offering on your plate.

You could be passing on $500K doing so, but in the end, 2 years from now you could get back $10,000,000 for the due diligence.

Sad shit.. You'd think your current processor would work with you to scale you up. Obviously you both don't want to leave money on the table. But, it appears you are currently working with a reseller of services. So they simply cannot give you what you want because they don't have the ability to.

Netbilling can handle you up to the millions. Mitch over there is kickass. The person Baddog is talking about can too. I don't think Richard would chime in unless he had reason to. He doesn't like to fuck around unless there is money to be made.

hmm... was just thinking you said a major player is fucking you... Would really love to know who they are.

Anyway, much luck to you. And remember the longer you take to pick a good processor the more likely you are to "bank" this unearned money as an investment towards the future.

well the processors hasnt totally Fed us yet. it could have been an employees mistake. which is a bad excuse on there end i know. im not going to out them as it is in limbo. legally that would be a very bad mistake. we have everything archived from screen shots to the employee emails just in case. all we wanted was communication from them, and 7 days for a response imo is way to long.

if we get our current sum spread out it is better then having to go through legal hoops to achieve it. i am just glad we found out what their operation is like a few days in rather than a couple months in where it would have spelled catastrophe for us.

we are not greedy and these steps are currently necessary. we expanded to quick last time and investing $10k+ in traffic daily is already a big risk. so we are talking baby steps to make sure this will not happen again.

i appreciate it.

Exit-chat · 02-15-2010, 05:15 PM

If you are on the mainstream side of the business i might be able to assist... i have faced many of the same issues for a lot of our mainstream continuity clients the past few months and have some good solutions and ideas on how to also assist in bringing down Chargebacks, Order confirmation calls and verification processes with call center partners.
If you are interested in discussing i might be able to assist as my group has also been in the mainstream business for over 10 years as well. If i can be of assistance to any of these issues please email me.

JenniDahling · 02-15-2010, 07:41 PM

Hit me up if you still need solutions MM, I have a merchant account provider that offers no reserve necessary, low fees, and daily wire payouts. They have a strong network of banks both in the US and abroad that they work with so you don't have to worry about any banking fallout.

NETbilling · 02-15-2010, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

netbilling is actually top of our list. we have talked around and heard nothing but good things for every type of client from your company.

today we are in limbo so we are still debating if processing is right for us atm.

you are correct. but as a general newbie to billing like i said we admittedly got in over our heads. we need someone to help us with this process. and i do not even expect companies to spoon feed us even though i think the amount would be worth it.

if we cannot find a solution so is life. we are installing backup plans atm. it is a tough lesson learned but one i will not make again.

Thank you are we are here to help.

iBill · 02-15-2010, 09:45 PM

MetaMan,

The problem is your dealing with sales reps at the other processors who need to seek upper approval for this.

Contact me directly. I am the CEO of iBill and I will be willing to see if we can work out something. I have done a few deals like this before and came up with some creative ways to get them done.

ICQ 565715333

BIGTYMER · 02-16-2010, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

thanks! i seen you are having some processor issues also. i hope that gets worked out for you. the more people i talk to the more i am hearing at the recent headaches. i think alot of peoples business are going to have to pay for the mis management of alot of processing companies.

thanks man! i'll be talking to them tomorrow. i'm shocked that this hasn't turned into a bigger deal for them on here.

baddog · 02-16-2010, 05:51 PM

Want to contact me, MM? 16-07-54-97

MetaMan · 02-16-2010, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Want to contact me, MM? 16-07-54-97

def. im just packing for travel atm. ill be on in a couple days and contact you when i am back on.

baddog · 02-16-2010, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBill

MetaMan,

The problem is your dealing with sales reps at the other processors who need to seek upper approval for this.

Contact me directly. I am the CEO of iBill and I will be willing to see if we can work out something. I have done a few deals like this before and came up with some creative ways to get them done.

ICQ 565715333

Les Grossman · 02-16-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBill

MetaMan,

The problem is your dealing with sales reps at the other processors who need to seek upper approval for this.

Contact me directly. I am the CEO of iBill and I will be willing to see if we can work out something. I have done a few deals like this before and came up with some creative ways to get them done.

ICQ 565715333

I just shit my self laughing.

Evil-Dan · 02-17-2010, 02:47 PM

Thanks for the heads up Jman

Metaman - please contact me on daniel (at) multibill.com

Thanks
Daniel

Kimmykim · 02-17-2010, 02:58 PM

If you just want to chat about what's happened and where you need to go, icq me if you like. I'm not trying to sell you anything (mainly because from the way you're describing things in this thread I'm a bit confused about what you actually need or should have) but I'd be ok with taking 15 minutes to give you my opinion about things.

Kimmy

O MARINA · 02-17-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

If you just want to chat about what's happened and where you need to go, icq me if you like. I'm not trying to sell you anything (mainly because from the way you're describing things in this thread I'm a bit confused about what you actually need or should have) but I'd be ok with taking 15 minutes to give you my opinion about things.

Kimmy

Agent 488 · 05-22-2010, 02:10 PM

wonder who this was? all sorted out?

LoveSandra · 05-22-2010, 03:24 PM

awesome.thanks

02-14-2010, 01:58 AM	#51
pamon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,108	ok, so 50 posts into the thread and no mention of what kind of product is pushing those kind of dollars across a MA. Even at 10k/day, you should be able to attract some major banks attention for a MA unless its gambling, adult, or pharmacy related. __________________ Email: [email protected] Skype: davidamodt. / TG: Davidamodt US Adult Content & Porn Writer Project/Sites/Tubes/Reviews & More

02-14-2010, 11:05 AM	#58
Adult Media Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 30	MetaMan, I maybe way off the radar here but is someone like 2CO not suitable being that you mentioned that the product is mainstream? __________________ =============================== Adult Traffic Solutions - Buy Banners Spots, Tube Traffic and More Contact Us For Custom Packages That Meet Your Requirements & Budget [email protected] ICQ - 550973198 ===============================

02-14-2010, 07:29 PM	#63
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Metaman, I am sure we can help you. We specialize in merchant account processing, no IPSP and the system we have been building for the past 11 years will give you the tools to succeed. Please contact us. __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

02-15-2010, 12:01 PM	#66
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	why not just spread it out across a bunch of accounts at once? __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

02-15-2010, 12:27 PM	#68
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	If any of your traffic is European, we have some solutions that could benefit you along side your CC processing, since most EU surfers don't even have a CC. Let me know. __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

02-14-2010, 11:17 AM	#59
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	So, you are still looking for someone? I may have someone for you.

02-15-2010, 11:48 AM	#64
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Is it possible that your current processor was flooded with customer service calls when people saw charges they didn't realize would be there because you told them about the charges on a different page with a TOS link?

02-15-2010, 12:30 PM	#70
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	please grow my penis 6 inches in a week __________________ Sup

02-15-2010, 01:28 PM	#72
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Just an FYI: I did not forget about you, but they are closed today as it is a bank holiday. I will follow up tomorrow.

02-15-2010, 02:40 PM	#74
5967Solutions Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 83	If possible, hit me up tonight or tomorrow since I will be overseas the next few days visiting on of the banks we send business too. __________________ Providing Reliable CC Solutions for over 10 years Stephen Pineda AIM - SP5967 \|\|\| Skype - stephen.pineda \|\|\| ICQ - 561136750 [email protected] You would be surprised if you knew who our clients were. Last edited by 5967Solutions; 02-15-2010 at 02:45 PM..

02-15-2010, 04:20 PM	#75
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Well, I hope this time you wait and take 1 week to sort out the ups and downs of each offering on your plate. You could be passing on $500K doing so, but in the end, 2 years from now you could get back $10,000,000 for the due diligence. Sad shit.. You'd think your current processor would work with you to scale you up. Obviously you both don't want to leave money on the table. But, it appears you are currently working with a reseller of services. So they simply cannot give you what you want because they don't have the ability to. Netbilling can handle you up to the millions. Mitch over there is kickass. The person Baddog is talking about can too. I don't think Richard would chime in unless he had reason to. He doesn't like to fuck around unless there is money to be made. hmm... was just thinking you said a major player is fucking you... Would really love to know who they are. Anyway, much luck to you. And remember the longer you take to pick a good processor the more likely you are to "bank" this unearned money as an investment towards the future.

02-15-2010, 05:15 PM	#77
Exit-chat Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 444	If you are on the mainstream side of the business i might be able to assist... i have faced many of the same issues for a lot of our mainstream continuity clients the past few months and have some good solutions and ideas on how to also assist in bringing down Chargebacks, Order confirmation calls and verification processes with call center partners. If you are interested in discussing i might be able to assist as my group has also been in the mainstream business for over 10 years as well. If i can be of assistance to any of these issues please email me. __________________ Rick Bennink CEO www.Exit-Chat.com icq 278635939 [email protected] The market creator and leader in AI chat customer recovery since 2005!

02-15-2010, 07:41 PM	#78
JenniDahling Market Penetration Specialist Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Out of my Suitcases Posts: 5,285	Hit me up if you still need solutions MM, I have a merchant account provider that offers no reserve necessary, low fees, and daily wire payouts. They have a strong network of banks both in the US and abroad that they work with so you don't have to worry about any banking fallout. __________________ cLick my kitty, you know you want to jenni {at} prkitty.com Meet me at The Island Gathering

02-15-2010, 09:45 PM	#80
iBill Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 56	MetaMan, The problem is your dealing with sales reps at the other processors who need to seek upper approval for this. Contact me directly. I am the CEO of iBill and I will be willing to see if we can work out something. I have done a few deals like this before and came up with some creative ways to get them done. ICQ 565715333 Last edited by iBill; 02-15-2010 at 09:46 PM..

02-16-2010, 05:51 PM	#82
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Want to contact me, MM? 16-07-54-97

02-17-2010, 02:47 PM	#86
Evil-Dan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lots of different places Posts: 464	Thanks for the heads up Jman Metaman - please contact me on daniel (at) multibill.com Thanks Daniel __________________ Evil Is As Evil Does

02-17-2010, 02:58 PM	#87
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	If you just want to chat about what's happened and where you need to go, icq me if you like. I'm not trying to sell you anything (mainly because from the way you're describing things in this thread I'm a bit confused about what you actually need or should have) but I'd be ok with taking 15 minutes to give you my opinion about things. Kimmy

05-22-2010, 02:10 PM	#89
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	wonder who this was? all sorted out?

05-22-2010, 03:24 PM	#90
LoveSandra So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just Blow Me Posts: 10,551	awesome.thanks