just got served today- unreal - GoFuckYourself.com

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 08:58 PM

god I LOVE stupid lawyers

i'm in bankruptcy!

first rule in suing someone civilly, there must be a chance of getting something!

it's for a shooting in my bar - before i owned the bar i owned the building and a tenant ran the bar - i inherited the tenant - and they had a shooting.... it was OUTSIDE the bar and on the street....

i evicted the tenant for not paying a month after that happened.

they're suing me cause i owned the building

unreal......

Deej · 12-14-2009, 08:59 PM

who is suing you? the city for the shooting? or the old tenant?

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

who is suing you? the city for the shooting? or the old tenant?

one of the girls that got shot in the shoulder.

i feel sorry for her, but shit, if i'm liable for this anyone who beats their wife in a rented appartment should hold the landlord liable for the wife beater.........

MetaMan · 12-14-2009, 09:02 PM

I simply cannot believe some of the trash in winnipeg now. the city is a big ghetto now. it is sad because i was born there and still do go back.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 09:02 PM

you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit.

I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 09:03 PM

i fucking hate that city - i love gimli though

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 09:04 PM

and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission

spacedog · 12-14-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit.

I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him.

Instead of doing that, counter sue him for filing a frivolous lawsuit and seek damages

D Ghost · 12-14-2009, 09:10 PM

sounds ridiculous

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

Instead of doing that, counter sue him for filing a frivolous lawsuit and seek damages

you get shit for that in canada, it's based on legal fees from 1973

JD · 12-14-2009, 09:18 PM

lmk your address yo. i wanna sue you for stealing my heart

Waddymelon · 12-14-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission

Maybe you should keep your door locked. I'll refrain from calling you an idiot, though... this time.

jjmerago · 12-14-2009, 09:37 PM

Sorry man I wished the story was that you had been Served by a dance crew ... at least it would have been funny.

BSleazy · 12-14-2009, 09:38 PM

Ya that's complete bullshit.

BillyHoe · 12-14-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission

Holy shit. I'd have kicked ass. But knowing our legal system in Canada you'd probably get charged for assault. Had you been in the states you could of shot the fucker for trespassing.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyHoe

Holy shit. I'd have kicked ass. But knowing our legal system in Canada you'd probably get charged for assault. Had you been in the states you could of shot the fucker for trespassing.

i have had many death threats and they are documented with the police.... i think i could have legally kicked the snot out of him in my house for illegal entry

heymatty · 12-14-2009, 10:02 PM

There's every chance you'll be out of bankruptcy by the time of the judgment. The full legal process is anything but fast.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by heymatty

There's every chance you'll be out of bankruptcy by the time of the judgment. The full legal process is anything but fast.

it's timeframe based on this kind of thing.... subject to my bankrupsy for that time period even if i make millions later

theking · 12-14-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit.

I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him.

I do not know Canada law...but I do think that in the states one being in bankruptcy would have any relevance. If the attorney won a law suit against you it could become collectable based upon future earnings for the next x number of years and then renewed for another x number of years etc. In addition a good attorney will sue anyone and everyone directly connected to an event or indirectly connected to an event to see what sticks to the wall and what doesn't. In example...a farmer was irrigating his crop with aluminum sprinkler pipe. The water sprayed onto a highway...and caused a car to lose control on the wet highway and the couple in the car sustained life long injuries. The farmer was sued...the outlet that sold the pipe to the farmer was sued...the manufacturer of the pipe was sued...the manufacturer of the sprinklers was sued...the county was sued (it was a county highway)...etc. If I remember correctly only the farmer was found to be liable...and of course he had insurance which for the most part covered the award...but not all of it.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

I do not know Canada law...but I do think that in the states one being in bankruptcy would have any relevance. If the attorney won a law suit against you it could become collectable based upon future earnings for the next x number of years and then renewed for another x number of years etc. In addition a good attorney will sue anyone and everyone directly connected to an event or indirectly connected to an event to see what sticks to the wall and what doesn't. In example...a farmer was irrigating his crop with aluminum sprinkler pipe. The water sprayed onto a highway...and caused a car to lose control on the wet highway and the couple in the car sustained life long injuries. The farmer was sued...the outlet that sold the pipe to the farmer was sued...the manufacturer of the pipe was sued...the manufacturer of the sprinklers was sued...the county was sued (it was a country highway)...etc. If I remember correctly only the farmer was found to be liable...and of course he had insurance which for the most part covered the award...but not all of it.

bankruptcy removes all obligation from that outside of criminal judgments... you can bankrupt out of a civil liability

theking · 12-14-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

bankruptcy removes all obligation from that outside of criminal judgments... you can bankrupt out of a civil liability

Well...you live in Canada and I don't...but it is difficult for me to understand why one would be relieved of civil liability simply because one is in bankruptcy. I will say that even if you were not in bankruptcy I doubt that you...being the owner of the building...would be held liable for an event that involved a business/tenant in the building...but I do understand why the attorney would include you.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Well...you live in Canada and I don't...but it is difficult for me to understand why one would be relieved of civil liability simply because one is in bankruptcy. I will say that even if you were not in bankruptcy I doubt that you...being the owner of the building...would be held liable for an event that involved a business/tenant in the building...but I do understand why the attorney would include you.

bankrupsy is almost the same as death in legal terms - you loose everything and start over.

they would have a claim against the estate, but not my new life.

same in the usa I believe - otherwise what would be the point of bankrupsy?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-14-2009, 11:18 PM

You just don't fuck all for luck do you man?

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

You just don't fuck all for luck do you man?

everything related to that fucking building blew up in my face and it's STILL comming at me - God damn place was cursed

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-14-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

everything related to that fucking building blew up in my face and it's STILL comming at me - God damn place was cursed

Sounds like it

FrozenJag · 12-14-2009, 11:22 PM

SD...

Arent you opening a program soon?

Thx.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

SD...

Arent you opening a program soon?

Thx.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=943119

kane · 12-14-2009, 11:24 PM

I know some lawyers go with the attitude of suing anyone and everyone that is remotely connected to something in hopes that they will settle or that during discovery they will find some reason to put some of the blame on you.

It's pretty fucked up, but like you said, you just rented the place to him, you can't be responsible for everything that goes on in there.

FrozenJag · 12-14-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=943119

Hit me up on icq real quick. Just need 2 mins...

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theking · 12-14-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

bankrupsy is almost the same as death in legal terms - you loose everything and start over.

they would have a claim against the estate, but not my new life.

same in the usa I believe - otherwise what would be the point of bankrupsy?

Bankruptcy gives one relief from one set of financial circumstances...but I find it difficult to believe that bankruptcy would relieve one of any and all liabilities. I am not an attorney and do not know the definitive law about this matter in the states...but my confidence level is high when I say that if it was in the states and one in fact was found to be liable for the business/tenants actions...I do not think that bankruptcy would be a defense to not having to pay on that liability as it is a different set of circumstance other than what the declaration of bankruptcy was based upon. I think a judgement would be brought against future earnings.

twistyneck · 12-14-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Bankruptcy gives one relief from one set of financial circumstances...but I find it difficult to believe that bankruptcy would relieve one of any and all liabilities. I am not an attorney and do not know the definitive law about this matter in the states...but my confidence level is high when I say that if it was in the states and one in fact was found to be liable for the business/tenants actions...I do not think that bankruptcy would be a defense to not having to pay on that liability as it is a different set of circumstance other than what the declaration of bankruptcy was based upon. I think a judgement would be brought against future earnings.

You're a fucking idiot. The whole point of bankruptcy is to wipe out liabilities.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by twistyneck

You're a fucking idiot. The whole point of bankruptcy is to wipe out liabilities.

thank you.

and the cost of doing it is everything you own

the only thing that's really exempt is criminal liability

we don't have debtors prison... they got rid of that a few hundred years ago

pornlaw · 12-15-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

one of the girls that got shot in the shoulder.

i feel sorry for her, but shit, if i'm liable for this anyone who beats their wife in a rented appartment should hold the landlord liable for the wife beater.........

You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.

Iron Fist · 12-15-2009, 12:25 AM

This is going to complicate your new program opening isn't it....

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:26 AM

;)
.................

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

This is going to complicate your new program opening isn't it....

nope

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.

same here - it's a hastle though from someone too dumb to do his reseach

GTS Mark · 12-15-2009, 12:33 AM

wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya!

Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya!

Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!

he's too old to hear properly anymore

Deej · 12-15-2009, 12:36 AM

waiyt wait waoiyt

You have had numerous death threats an dyou sleep with your door unlocked?

Dude/// Skufty cant save all... lock that shit!!

tiger · 12-15-2009, 12:36 AM

If you own property get an umbrella policy on top of your regular insurance. Tenants and people try to sue landlords for any dumb shit they can come up with. Things you would laugh at but obviously its never a joke. An umbrella policy is actually a really good thing even if you don't have a lot of property but you want some extra protection.

Sorry to hear about that SD but hopefully the law will be on your side.

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

waiyt wait waoiyt

You have had numerous death threats an dyou sleep with your door unlocked?

Dude/// Skufty cant save all... lock that shit!!

americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

Iron Fist · 12-15-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

Man, you live in Winnipeg.... we lock our doors here, I dunno about you, but anyone in the city locks their doors, now if you were to say you were on a farm or whatever, then maybe i'd agree with you, but if your trying to make out like Winnipeg is friendly.. i'll have to disagree.

Besides its almost -30 outside... you seriously keeping your doors open right now?

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Man, you live in Winnipeg.... we lock our doors here, I dunno about you, but anyone in the city locks their doors, now if you were to say you were on a farm or whatever, then maybe i'd agree with you, but if your trying to make out like Winnipeg is friendly.. i'll have to disagree.

Besides its almost -30 outside... you seriously keeping your doors open right now?

anyone comming into my house would be more scared of me than me of them.

i'm 6'3 and over 300lbs

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-15-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya!

Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!

Excuse me!?!

Skufty truly is a wonder Bassett...with balls, I might add:

Skufty would have gone canine ninja on that process servers ass if Sleazy gave him the nod, but not wanting to risk yet another lawsuit, Scott (being ever thrifty), kept the papers to wipe his ass with...

Okay, I see that I maybe embellished my story a little, since Skufty would more likely have gone canine ninja on the process server's ankles, being that they are lower to the ground.

ADG

DaddyHalbucks · 12-15-2009, 01:29 AM

I hear Saskatoon is worse.

Paul Markham · 12-15-2009, 01:34 AM

Sorry to hear that SD, just more shit that has to be dealt with.

Waddymelon · 12-15-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

We also dont have people walking into our home to serve us lawsuits while we are asleep.

theking · 12-15-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.

You are an attorney...what is incorrect about my posts...if anything?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-15-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

You are an attorney...what is incorrect about my posts...if anything?

Well, for starters...

theking = pathfinder, pathfinder = dead, therefore, you = dead

ADG

12-14-2009, 08:58 PM	#1
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	just got served today- unreal god I LOVE stupid lawyers i'm in bankruptcy! first rule in suing someone civilly, there must be a chance of getting something! it's for a shooting in my bar - before i owned the bar i owned the building and a tenant ran the bar - i inherited the tenant - and they had a shooting.... it was OUTSIDE the bar and on the street.... i evicted the tenant for not paying a month after that happened. they're suing me cause i owned the building unreal...... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	who is suing you? the city for the shooting? or the old tenant? __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

12-14-2009, 09:02 PM	#5
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	you know what - this is what i'm going to do. i'm sick of this shit. I'm calling this lawyer tomorrow and telling him that if he doesn't drop me out of this in 5 days i'm going to the press and printing that he sues bankrupt people with no possibility of recovery to rip off his clients and collect fees and then see if anyone else ever hires him. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i fucking hate that city - i love gimli though __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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12-14-2009, 09:10 PM	#9
D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	sounds ridiculous

12-14-2009, 09:18 PM	#11
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	lmk your address yo. i wanna sue you for stealing my heart

12-14-2009, 09:37 PM	#13
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12-14-2009, 09:38 PM	#14
BSleazy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,721	Ya that's complete bullshit. __________________ icq 156131086

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	You just don't fuck all for luck do you man?

12-14-2009, 11:22 PM	#26
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	SD... Arent you opening a program soon? Thx.

12-14-2009, 11:24 PM	#28
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I know some lawyers go with the attitude of suing anyone and everyone that is remotely connected to something in hopes that they will settle or that during discovery they will find some reason to put some of the blame on you. It's pretty fucked up, but like you said, you just rented the place to him, you can't be responsible for everything that goes on in there.

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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya! Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!

12-15-2009, 12:36 AM	#40
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