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Old 12-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #1
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:stop Did streamray/AFF pay you lately?

Have not seen a check for 2 months from these guys and they are not answering emails anymore. Seen this happen before, a few times in the past 10 years with different companies,...but I find it hard to believe that AFF is going bust..

So..have you guys been paid lately?
im getting a little concerned
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:55 PM   #2
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Payments to epass and pioneer are fine...maybe xmas delay with mail ? Hit up Elii or Sagi on icq they are ususally around.
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maybe xmas delay with mail ?
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Would be nice, if they paid by wire transfer... hate keeping track of checks
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:05 PM   #7
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Would be nice, if they paid by wire transfer... hate keeping track of checks
Yeah, what is it with Americans and all these checks anyway?
I donīt get it..
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always paid me on time.............
Maybe I need to start making as much as you do and then thell pay me, no?
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I donīt get it..
It's our superior financial institutions.


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Old 12-13-2009, 03:16 PM   #10
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I don't promote them anymore, but there was a period of a year or so when I always had to hit someone up to get paid, which used to really piss me off. Eventually when I got a Payoneer card I started to get my payments on time...
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:19 PM   #11
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:21 PM   #12
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Seems people are jumping on the "Slur the sponsor" bandwagon. When it's a legitimate case like DirtyFuck, it's cool, when it isn't, it's just lame
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:22 PM   #13
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:24 PM   #14
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Ok, glad you guys got paid..hopefully something will turn up next week
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:26 PM   #15
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:42 PM   #16
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Got my latest check on Friday.

Go into your affiliate account and look on the page where it says "Payment Type"
That tells you whether you are going to be paid or not. Then go into your stats and you can look at payments and see when and how much the last check was that was sent to you.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:24 PM   #17
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Got paid by them yesterday as a matter of fact. Well, got their check in the mail just like I have every 2 weeks for 11 years.
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:43 PM   #19
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Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier. The office will be open in the morning, so please contact your affiliate manager, myself, or Sagi and we will be able to sort things out for you. You can also call the office directly. The phone number is (800) 388-0760 (toll free) or
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:16 AM   #20
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AFF loses money like clockwork too (under Andrew and Lars the company had a $81 million debt, before the company sunk another $442 million into debt, with the acquisition).

Meanwhile, AFF apparently continues to support some of the biggest content thieves around, which has crippled our industry badly (not to mention the iBill-Penthouse connection).

BTW, how's the IPO, which was supposed to bail them out, coming along (they announced it over a year ago)?

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AFF loses money like clockwork too (under Andrew and Lars the company had a $81 million debt, before the company sunk another $442 million into debt, with the acquisition).

Meanwhile, AFF apparently continues to support some of the biggest content thieves around, which has crippled our industry badly (not to mention the iBill-Penthouse connection).

BTW, how's the IPO, which was supposed to bail them out, coming along (they announced it over a year ago)?

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Who cares, do they pay? Seems the answer is yes.
A big problem with the adult industry is that too many people/companies do not care, and they instead place short term profits over ethics, even if it means undermining and doing long-term damage to their own industry.

Unfortunately, many people in the adult industry have no business acumen whatsoever, which is why so many fail so miserably in the long run.

The worst part is that some who have the biggest success, are also the biggest lying thieves/scammers around, willing to knowingly sell out an entire industry for their own selfish benefit.

No one should forget that AFF has aided and abetted many of the shadiest companies behind the current downturn in the adult industry.

I find it somewhat comical, but also sad, that so many people still kiss the asses of the very people who are screwing their industry over.

The owners of AFF have made lots of money scamming people for a long time, even though it is not reflected in the bottom line of their failing company (the reality is that they have been running up huge losses in recent years).

If they had a good business model, they wouldn't have sold off to such a shady company as they did (I remind you about the iBill-Penthouse connection), and the IPO would have already occurred, and would be paying dividends by now.

I suspect that the principals currently in charge don't care, as long as they can cash in at the expense of many others before their house of cards collapses from it's own weight.

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A big problem with the adult industry is that too many people/companies do not care, and they instead place short term profits over ethics, even if it means undermining and doing long-term damage to their own industry.

Unfortunately, many people in the adult industry have no business acumen whatsoever, which is why so many fail so miserably in the long run.

The worst part is that some who have the biggest success, are also the biggest lying thieves/scammers around, willing to knowingly sell out an entire industry for their own selfish benefit.

No one should forget that AFF has aided and abetted many of the shadiest companies behind the current downturn in the adult industry.

I find it somewhat comical, but also sad, that so many people still kiss the asses of the very people who are screwing their industry over.

The owners of AFF have made lots of money scamming people for a long time, even though it is not reflected in the bottom line of their failing company (the reality is that they have been running up huge losses in recent years).

If they had a good business model, they wouldn't have sold off to such a shady company as they did (I remind you about the iBill-Penthouse connection), and the IPO would have already occurred, and would be paying dividends by now.

I suspect that the principals currently in charge don't care, as long as they can cash in at the expense of many others before their house of cards collapses from it's own weight.

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Sagi is looking into mine. It seems like they may have had a programming glitch, which they are fixing. Probably just a short wait then.
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A big problem with the adult industry is that too many people/companies do not care, and they instead place short term profits over ethics, even if it means undermining and doing long-term damage to their own industry.

Unfortunately, many people in the adult industry have no business acumen whatsoever, which is why so many fail so miserably in the long run.

The worst part is that some who have the biggest success, are also the biggest lying thieves/scammers around, willing to knowingly sell out an entire industry for their own selfish benefit.

No one should forget that AFF has aided and abetted many of the shadiest companies behind the current downturn in the adult industry.

I find it somewhat comical, but also sad, that so many people still kiss the asses of the very people who are screwing their industry over.

The owners of AFF have made lots of money scamming people for a long time, even though it is not reflected in the bottom line of their failing company (the reality is that they have been running up huge losses in recent years).

If they had a good business model, they wouldn't have sold off to such a shady company as they did (I remind you about the iBill-Penthouse connection), and the IPO would have already occurred, and would be paying dividends by now.

I suspect that the principals currently in charge don't care, as long as they can cash in at the expense of many others before their house of cards collapses from it's own weight.

ADG
Buddy with that much debt, what do you expect from a human? They obviously need to keep themselves in a job.. . I agree with what you say but that is not the focus of this thread.
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Sagi is looking into mine. It seems like they may have had a programming glitch, which they are fixing. Probably just a short wait then.
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Sagi is looking into mine. It seems like they may have had a programming glitch, which they are fixing. Probably just a short wait then.
Yeah, thats what they told me a month ago
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out there in the real world real criminals have blow up and looted the financial system and driven then economy into the ground and will likey send untold billions into poverty and suffering for decades. the worst that online adult does is absolute pansy-ass to what is going out there in the larger economy. there is no comparison. it;s like comparing stalin to a slow kid who licked a sucker at a candy whop without paying for it.

it all gets to be a bit rich when people go on about "this industry" this "this industry" that "this industry is it's own worst enemy" when somehow without little government regulation every month thousands put food on the table working in online adult and millions of consumers jack off happily and one of the worst issues is a guy named "dirty d" stiffing a guy - from when you look at his party pics - who seems to be an old bro of his for $400.

if anything the cato institute should study online adult as a chaotic but real time example of a working anarcho-capitalism.

really, sometimes people around here lose all perspective.

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A big problem with the adult industry is that too many people/companies do not care, and they instead place short term profits over ethics, even if it means undermining and doing long-term damage to their own industry.

Unfortunately, many people in the adult industry have no business acumen whatsoever, which is why so many fail so miserably in the long run.

The worst part is that some who have the biggest success, are also the biggest lying thieves/scammers around, willing to knowingly sell out an entire industry for their own selfish benefit.

No one should forget that AFF has aided and abetted many of the shadiest companies behind the current downturn in the adult industry.

I find it somewhat comical, but also sad, that so many people still kiss the asses of the very people who are screwing their industry over.

The owners of AFF have made lots of money scamming people for a long time, even though it is not reflected in the bottom line of their failing company (the reality is that they have been running up huge losses in recent years).

If they had a good business model, they wouldn't have sold off to such a shady company as they did (I remind you about the iBill-Penthouse connection), and the IPO would have already occurred, and would be paying dividends by now.

I suspect that the principals currently in charge don't care, as long as they can cash in at the expense of many others before their house of cards collapses from it's own weight.

ADG
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out there in the real world real criminals have blow up and looted the financial system and driven then economy into the ground and will likey send untold billions into poverty and suffering for decades. the worst that online adult does is absolute pansy-ass to what is going out there in the larger economy. there is no comparison. it;s like comparing stalin to a slow kid who licked a sucker at a candy whop without paying for it.

it all gets to be a bit rich when people go on about "this industry" this "this industry" that "this industry is it's own worst enemy" when somehow without little government regulation every month thousands put food on the table working in online adult and millions of consumers jack off happily and one of the worst issues is a guy named "dirty d" stiffing a guy - from when you look at his party pics - who seems to be an old bro of his for $400.

if anything the cato institute should study online adult as a chaotic but real time example of a working anarcho-capitalism.

really, sometimes people around here lose all perspective.



no ripping on your personally just in general.
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