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joefoxxx · 12-09-2002, 12:33 PM

They are up again.. :-)

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lane
up

yipes! that's some 10Gbit/s goodness.

let the LikeWhoa lovefest begin.

traffictrader · 12-09-2002, 12:34 PM

I wish my second wife would go down as much as like whoa. I'd be a happy man.

TDF · 12-09-2002, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffictrader
I wish my second wife would go down as much as like whoa. I'd be a happy man.

hahahahah

SpeakEasy · 12-09-2002, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffictrader
I wish my second wife would go down as much as like whoa. I'd be a happy man.

Thats pretty damm funny...LOL

Seriously though, has anyone learned their lesson yet???
or are you gonna wait for the next round??? I would reccommend quickly making back up's while you can so you have it ready to move?? who knows how long it will be??

TDF · 12-09-2002, 12:39 PM

its called flapping

FrankyW · 12-09-2002, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salsbury

yipes! that's some 10Gbit/s goodness.

let the LikeWhoa lovefest begin.

Go back to your hole, you little jealous fuck! You aint' shit.

FATPad · 12-09-2002, 12:43 PM

Are you guys all going to be posting in a week that you're still on Like Whoa and your sites are down again?

Seriously....Hooper is right. There are lab rats who learn quicker which button shocks them and which button gives them food.

LikeWhat · 12-09-2002, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
its called flapping

It's called they suck gigantic balls!

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW
Go back to your hole, you little jealous fuck! You aint' shit.

my gf goes down on me more than LW, why would i be jealous? oh, maybe 'cause she doesn't usually go down for hours at a time. i guess that is the LW advantage!

Pipecrew · 12-09-2002, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Are you guys all going to be posting in a week that you're still on Like Whoa and your sites are down again?

Seriously....Hooper is right. There are lab rats who learn quicker which button shocks them and which button gives them food.

Well there are also lab rats that are more original then hooper, so take your pick

LikeWhat · 12-09-2002, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW

Go back to your hole, you little jealous fuck! You aint' shit.

aint' aint' a word bro

SpeakEasy · 12-09-2002, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW

Go back to your hole, you little jealous fuck! You aint' shit.

Jealous of what exactly???

gleem · 12-09-2002, 01:06 PM

For all you guys who are like "have you learned your lesson, move, blah, blah, blah" We've moved servers 5 times in 3 years. Each time we moved it came with either a mess of permission problems, days of downtime, 2 times servers got mysteriously broke and both times things happened where we couldn't get our money back. Last time we moved, we went with Candid who everyone here AT THE TIME swore by, so we thought we were safe. A few months after the move, the 10 minute up and down rollercoaster started with them, their support went to shit. Then everyone is lovin' likewhoa, so we move there, great service for 3 months, then things went to hell. When does it stop!

I am soooo sick of moving, so sick of all the bullshit, ready to pipe a 10mbps to my house, seems it's the only way to be in control of your own business.

Ok, enough venting, now back to pretending my server is ok, saying to myself like the last 2 times "1 more time and I am moving"..

Fletch XXX · 12-09-2002, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gleem

I am soooo sick of moving,

I have maintained space wit Webair for well over a year.

One scheduled downtime for Router upgrade.

They emailed us 3 weeks prior.

Rarely evvvver down.

Absolutely the most solid I have found personally, but its not cheap.

kevindoor · 12-09-2002, 01:11 PM

Wow LW was the biggest spammer in cologroup down threads and now they are even more down then cologroup!

I feel sorry for the cologroup customers that moved to LW.

I'm sure other hosts will be more then happy to welcome you in the 0 downtime zone.

BTW

found that, perhaps they shouldn't be pissing away money on the biggest booth at internext, and instead on paying their uplinks (or whatever else is causing them to be down this much).

Greetz

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kevindoor
BTW
found that, perhaps they shouldn't be pissing away money on the biggest booth at internext, and instead on paying their uplinks (or whatever else is causing them to be down this much).

Greetz

you sure they won't just have that poster next to a few folding chairs?

Rodent · 12-09-2002, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffictrader
I wish my second wife would go down as much as like whoa. I'd be a happy man.

LikeWhat · 12-09-2002, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salsbury

you sure they won't just have that poster next to a few folding chairs?

LikeWhoa dude, that's classic!

Simon-interaid · 12-09-2002, 01:19 PM

This is what we do.

We always take in limited number of customers based on the number of our staff, so we can offer them tech support 24/7 365.
And keep servers and our networking equipment always healthy.

That is the reason why we have been hosting some of the largest tgps since 1997.

Some of the hosts, take a million and one customers with couple of techs, not talking likewhoa , but in general.

And eventually these companies fall apart.

The only customers we have ever lost was due to pricing in the past which now we have lowered, rarely ever because of tech support.

Marcus · 12-09-2002, 01:27 PM

How many times has this been in the past 2 months?

4? 5? 6? I haven't kept track.

sync · 12-09-2002, 01:31 PM

Hi All,

This is Ben from Like Whoa and I'd like to inform everyone of what's happening.

We appreciate all the support we've been receiving from all of you, and the reason for these intermittent downtimes is the total amount of traffic we're pushing.

Last week when we brought up MFN/AboveNet we were quite confident that this would fix the problem. Which it had, temporarily though. Early this morning at 9AM EST the local loop connecting us to MFN had deteriorated and dropped.

This forced all the traffic over to the other 2 links Network Plus/Yipes. Unfortunately the router interfaces were unable to handle this excess amount of traffic and caused the CPU to spike high to 99%

After working on the router to restore it to normal levels the traffic had returned. Currently we are working on securing/stabalizing the MFN/AboveNet link at which point the network would return to normal.

Fiber signals are measured in dB, what exactly happened is that our run at Telehouse ( 25 Broadway ) had too much dB loss, a -26 db, acceptable standards are between -5 and -20. This can be caused by dirt hitting the fiber optics. The connectors not being properly made, or a host of other problems that are not directly associated directly with our efforts to provide a stable connection.

What we can hope for in the next few days, is that after today the MFN/AboveNet link will be looked over minutely and scrutinized by the best in the field and will prove to be reliable. If this link stays up in addition to our other providers we will not see any of the problems reported earlier. If our traffic falls back onto Yipes/Network Plus the router's interfaces are overloaded and will cause it to go down.

Like Whoa, has been working non-stop the past 2 weeks to guarantee a stable network, and has been hurt more than many of you realize. We ask everyone to bear with us for just 1 more day as we truly feel these will be problems of the past.

Best regards to all affected,

Ben Uretsky
Like Whoa, Inc.

Fletch XXX · 12-09-2002, 01:31 PM

They must be watching but not replying.

Did they delete that picture?

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 01:40 PM

Q: how many russians does it take to clean a fiber line?

A: likewhoa+1

sync · 12-09-2002, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salsbury
Q: how many russians does it take to clean a fiber line?

A: likewhoa+1

Q: how many russians does it take to clena a fiber line?
A: just 1

Problem: russians aren't cleaning the fiber

Additionally, your post said something about BGP. We do have BGP as you verified and posted for us many times. Please tell us what happens when the link goes down. Therefore the BGP session goes down and traffic is routed to the other ports on the router that causes it to max out cuz we're pushing too much traffic.

If our links stay up, we stay up. I feel confident after today when Telehouse fixes the dB loss problem we will stay up permanently for many months to come.

Get your facts straight,

Ben

Tukhman · 12-09-2002, 01:47 PM

What's there to respond, bunch of haters and wanna-be's, life's that easy ;-)

Half of them hating like they know us, more like they know of us. The rest are trying to get some attention, we appreciate all the marketing innovation (LikeWhat?) ;-))))

As to competiton, you guys are all sweated up, most of you can't keep your dick up, still trying to get to the top.

Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-)

muhahahah

sync · 12-09-2002, 01:48 PM

Also what's the point of editing your post, if you have something to say, in a real conversation, once its said, its over.

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync

Q: how many russians does it take to clena a fiber line?
A: just 1

Problem: russians aren't cleaning the fiber

in soviet russia, FIBER CLEANS YOU!

Quote:

Additionally, your post said something about BGP. We do have BGP as you verified and posted for us many times. Please tell us what happens when the link goes down. Therefore the BGP session goes down and traffic is routed to the other ports on the router that causes it to max out cuz we're pushing too much traffic.

If our links stay up, we stay up. I feel confident after today when Telehouse fixes the dB loss problem we will stay up permanently for many months to come.

Get your facts straight,

Ben

sup Ben. here's the thing. when you switched to above.net, you had *zero* routes for anything else but above.net, according to many route servers, including telnet://route-views.oregon-ix.net/ . this morning, while you were down, all route were marked "historical" and "dampened", and they were all still through above.net . now that it's back up, *all* routes are through Yipes and none are through Above.net. in the past months i've never seen more than one ISP announcing your AS (admittedly, i haven't seen it every day, but that has been the case during downtime).

but, at least you are back up now. that is good for everyone (sincerely).

(edited to fix a broken tag)

FATPad · 12-09-2002, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
What's there to respond

That was funny.

picindex · 12-09-2002, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
Hi All,

This is Ben from Like Whoa and I'd like to inform everyone of what's happening.

We appreciate all the support we've been receiving from all of you, and the reason for these intermittent downtimes is the total amount of traffic we're pushing.

Last week when we brought up MFN/AboveNet we were quite confident that this would fix the problem. Which it had, temporarily though. Early this morning at 9AM EST the local loop connecting us to MFN had deteriorated and dropped.

This forced all the traffic over to the other 2 links Network Plus/Yipes. Unfortunately the router interfaces were unable to handle this excess amount of traffic and caused the CPU to spike high to 99%

After working on the router to restore it to normal levels the traffic had returned. Currently we are working on securing/stabalizing the MFN/AboveNet link at which point the network would return to normal.

Fiber signals are measured in dB, what exactly happened is that our run at Telehouse ( 25 Broadway ) had too much dB loss, a -26 db, acceptable standards are between -5 and -20. This can be caused by dirt hitting the fiber optics. The connectors not being properly made, or a host of other problems that are not directly associated directly with our efforts to provide a stable connection.

What we can hope for in the next few days, is that after today the MFN/AboveNet link will be looked over minutely and scrutinized by the best in the field and will prove to be reliable. If this link stays up in addition to our other providers we will not see any of the problems reported earlier. If our traffic falls back onto Yipes/Network Plus the router's interfaces are overloaded and will cause it to go down.

Like Whoa, has been working non-stop the past 2 weeks to guarantee a stable network, and has been hurt more than many of you realize. We ask everyone to bear with us for just 1 more day as we truly feel these will be problems of the past.

Best regards to all affected,

Ben Uretsky
Like Whoa, Inc.

You guys say that everytime. "Oh yeah it will be fixed one more day" - till next week.

Last I head MFN/AboveNet was in bankruptcy and it looked like they had no future. Not sure if this is still the case.

So when is this 10Gig network going to be turned up ? and how do you plan to route 10GB if your router can?t even handle what you have now?

And it does not appear you have been working non-stop the past 2 weeks because if you did there would not be a new thread everyday here "LikeShit is Down"

What router are you guys using?

Tukhman · 12-09-2002, 01:54 PM

Ryan,

It aint' bragging if it's true

sync · 12-09-2002, 01:55 PM

We let BGP do the inbound routing for us. AboveNet proved to be a much better provider than Yipes and therefore most (not all) routes were selected over them. Route servers propogate only the selected best route, not all routes available to our subnets. Get on a real router ( not a route server which is a route reflector client ) and do a sh ip bgp xx.xx.xx.xx for our network.

Do we need to give you BGP 101 lessons, if your going to post something, atleast do enough research to back up your argument. The circumstances of the past 2 weeks were out of our hands, if there was something this bunch of crazy russians could have done, it would have been done. Believe you me!

LikeWhat · 12-09-2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman

Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-)

muhahahah

Muhahahah? who are you kidding?

.:Frog:. · 12-09-2002, 01:55 PM

Tukhman - When will things be stable?

X-treme · 12-09-2002, 01:57 PM

Hey all,

Sals forgot the answer that he had to edit his post...hahah(retard)

Listen we all know that LWI had a situation this past week and we all know that when someone goes down all the haters come out to play .

The bottom line is thats natural in these case to thrash companies but seriously when is enough.... I understand that people are trying to get buissnees through this situation but honestly it's the wrong approach, you guys should be earning your braggin rights not bad mouthing people at the top....

I saw this thread ever since it developed and honestly nothing but hatters..You guys should be ashamed of your selves acting like little crack heads who have nothing better to do with all this yyayyayyayayayaya come on webbastards have a little respect for your elderly....

picindex · 12-09-2002, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
What's there to respond, bunch of haters and wanna-be's, life's that easy ;-)

Half of them hating like they know us, more like they know of us. The rest are trying to get some attention, we appreciate all the marketing innovation (LikeWhat?) ;-))))

As to competiton, you guys are all sweated up, most of you can't keep your dick up, still trying to get to the top.

Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-)

muhahahah

Like I said before you talk too much shit for someone that has a host that can't keep a fucking connection up. I think everyone here hating does not need to know you - your customers and you give us a good idea on what kind of person you are. You lie directly to your customers and on this board.

Your a real professional guy. I want to do business with you!

sync · 12-09-2002, 02:00 PM

We're using a Foundry Networks BigIron 8000 for our core1 router, and a BigIron 4000 router for our core2 location.

Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet. The amount of CAM entries that need to be created are too much and the interface fails. Foundry Tech support has spent well over 100 hours in the past week to try and determine on how to improve/resolve this but without any luck.

We do not loose hope, even when our vendors tell us there is no solution. We will always be here fighting to keep your connection up. What we tell customers/post on boards does not directly relate to the huge concerted effort in our organization to get your stuff back online.

We're here to stay, and the sooner these problems are resolved, the sooner we can all get back to work and start making $$MoneY$$.

picindex · 12-09-2002, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
Ryan,

It aint' bragging if it's true

So far from what I have seen nothing you have said has been true.

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
We let BGP do the inbound routing for us. AboveNet proved to be a much better provider than Yipes and therefore most (not all) routes were selected over them. Route servers propogate only the selected best route, not all routes available to our subnets. Get on a real router ( not a route server which is a route reflector client ) and do a sh ip bgp xx.xx.xx.xx for our network.

Do we need to give you BGP 101 lessons, if your going to post something, atleast do enough research to back up your argument. The circumstances of the past 2 weeks were out of our hands, if there was something this bunch of crazy russians could have done, it would have been done. Believe you me!

why on earth would routers only show ONE BGP route? that would be retarded. let me show you an example.

here is an excerpt from Yahoo!'s BGP path (IP used for this is 64.58.76.179)

BGP routing table entry for 64.58.76.0/22, version 10253
Paths: (50 available, best #22)
16150 20757 3356 17110
217.75.96.60 from 217.75.96.60 (217.75.96.60)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 16150:65304 16150:65321
6539 3561 17110
216.18.63.137 from 216.18.63.137 (216.18.63.137)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
3549 3561 17110
208.51.113.253 from 208.51.113.253 (207.136.163.27)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3549:2022 3549:30840
3561 17110
208.172.146.2 from 208.172.146.2 (208.172.146.2)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best

this is just a few out of many. please note that there are at least TWO routes there. 3356->17110 and 3561->17110 . that is level3 and cable and wireless, respectively, to yahoo. note the one that says "best". under your logic, that would be the ONLY one displayed, because it is the current route.

but that is wrong.

route-views.oregon-ix.net is has a very large view of the internet's BGP tables. it shows that LW only has a route advertised by Yipes.

compare this to say.. SexTracker's 11608 AS. tons o routes.

and i call bullshit on your "it's out of our hands" argument. passing the buck isn't gonna do you or your customers or your reputation any good.

apologies to the non-techies here. basically what i'm saying is that LW has one route, presently advertised to the internet at-large, while competitors have a shitton of different routes advertised.

FrankyW · 12-09-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by picindex

Like I said before you talk too much shit for someone that has a host that can't keep a fucking connection up. I think everyone here hating does not need to know you - your customers and you give us a good idea on what kind of person you are. You lie directly to your customers and on this board.

Your a real professional guy. I want to do business with you!

Who would WANT to do business with you?

You don't even know what goes on, stop commenting and listen.

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by X-treme
The bottom line is thats natural in these case to thrash companies but seriously when is enough.... I understand that people are trying to get buissnees through this situation but honestly it's the wrong approach

hi X-treme. #1, this is just a web board.

#2, please point out where i'm trying to get business. please? you can't. thank you. try again.

picindex · 12-09-2002, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
We're using a Foundry Networks BigIron 8000 for our core1 router, and a BigIron 4000 router for our core2 location.

Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet. The amount of CAM entries that need to be created are too much and the interface fails. Foundry Tech support has spent well over 100 hours in the past week to try and determine on how to improve/resolve this but without any luck.

We do not loose hope, even when our vendors tell us there is no solution. We will always be here fighting to keep your connection up. What we tell customers/post on boards does not directly relate to the huge concerted effort in our organization to get your stuff back online.

We're here to stay, and the sooner these problems are resolved, the sooner we can all get back to work and start making $$MoneY$$.

LOL! You guys need to get a Cisco or if you want to be hardcore a Juniper. This is funny. How many ISPs use Foundry on their side? How many hosts use Foundry to route traffic? No wonder you have so many problems!

The only thing Foundry is good for is load balancing and switching.

traffictrader · 12-09-2002, 02:05 PM

damnit Salsbury! I was sooo gonna use a yakov smirnoff reference, but you beat me to it. in soviet russia board posts you!

salsbury · 12-09-2002, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet.

sometimes the cisco tax is worth it, eh man?

FrankyW · 12-09-2002, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by picindex

LOL! You guys need to get a Cisco or if you want to be hardcore a Juniper. This is funny. How many ISPs use Foundry on their side? How many hosts use Foundry to route traffic? No wonder you have so many problems!

The only thing Foundry is good for is load balancing and switching.

AOL and Exodus use Foundry. Do you have anything else intelligent from your moronic ass today?

LikeWhat · 12-09-2002, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW

Who would WANT to do business with you?

You don't even know what goes on, stop commenting and listen.

bla bla bla...

picindex · 12-09-2002, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW

AOL and Exodus use Foundry. Do you have anything else intelligent from your moronic ass today?

Not sure what AOL uses. Don?t really care.

I know for a fact Exodus uses Cisco routers because I have seen them in several of their data centers. I don?t recall seeing a Foundry. They are certified as a Cisco Powered Network.

sync · 12-09-2002, 02:20 PM

First off, Exodus is a failing company bought over by Cable and Wireless.

Secondly, they had Foundry BigIron aggregate routers at their New Jersey City facility when I used to do work there over 1 year ago.

Additionally, currently we are advertising our routes out 2 AS's.

6517 + 11846, Yipes / Network Plus respectively.

The reason you see only 1 is because our MFN connection is not up, if it was these problems wouldn't be happening. As for why 11846 is not showing up, that's a good question, but here's our BGP summary to prove what I'm saying:

Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend
64.61.24.149 11846 ESTAB 1h 9m11s 115416 0 8 0
66.7.129.225 6517 ESTAB 2h23m50s 115877 0 7 0

As you can see: 11846 has 8 routes sent to it, meaning we are advertising 8 networks through Network Plus.
And 7 routes sent to 6517, 7 routes advertised through Yipes.

Additionally, as soon as the cross connect is functional we will begin advertising our subnets to/through MFN in addition to these 2.

TheFLY · 12-09-2002, 02:20 PM

Pipecrew · 12-09-2002, 02:25 PM

Hey Nick when Salsbury loses his job, can you hire him to update galleries for me?

LikeWhat..... What pussy host are you? too afraid to post in your real name? figured as much

12-09-2002, 12:33 PM	#51
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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	For all you guys who are like "have you learned your lesson, move, blah, blah, blah" We've moved servers 5 times in 3 years. Each time we moved it came with either a mess of permission problems, days of downtime, 2 times servers got mysteriously broke and both times things happened where we couldn't get our money back. Last time we moved, we went with Candid who everyone here AT THE TIME swore by, so we thought we were safe. A few months after the move, the 10 minute up and down rollercoaster started with them, their support went to shit. Then everyone is lovin' likewhoa, so we move there, great service for 3 months, then things went to hell. When does it stop! I am soooo sick of moving, so sick of all the bullshit, ready to pipe a 10mbps to my house, seems it's the only way to be in control of your own business. Ok, enough venting, now back to pretending my server is ok, saying to myself like the last 2 times "1 more time and I am moving".. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

12-09-2002, 01:11 PM	#66
kevindoor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1	Wow LW was the biggest spammer in cologroup down threads and now they are even more down then cologroup! I feel sorry for the cologroup customers that moved to LW. I'm sure other hosts will be more then happy to welcome you in the 0 downtime zone. BTW found that, perhaps they shouldn't be pissing away money on the biggest booth at internext, and instead on paying their uplinks (or whatever else is causing them to be down this much). Greetz Last edited by kevindoor; 12-09-2002 at 01:12 PM..

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Simon-interaid Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 814	This is what we do. We always take in limited number of customers based on the number of our staff, so we can offer them tech support 24/7 365. And keep servers and our networking equipment always healthy. That is the reason why we have been hosting some of the largest tgps since 1997. Some of the hosts, take a million and one customers with couple of techs, not talking likewhoa , but in general. And eventually these companies fall apart. The only customers we have ever lost was due to pricing in the past which now we have lowered, rarely ever because of tech support. __________________ we buy domains with typin traffic. icq me 8566256

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Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	How many times has this been in the past 2 months? 4? 5? 6? I haven't kept track.

12-09-2002, 01:31 PM	#72
sync Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NY Posts: 204	Hi All, This is Ben from Like Whoa and I'd like to inform everyone of what's happening. We appreciate all the support we've been receiving from all of you, and the reason for these intermittent downtimes is the total amount of traffic we're pushing. Last week when we brought up MFN/AboveNet we were quite confident that this would fix the problem. Which it had, temporarily though. Early this morning at 9AM EST the local loop connecting us to MFN had deteriorated and dropped. This forced all the traffic over to the other 2 links Network Plus/Yipes. Unfortunately the router interfaces were unable to handle this excess amount of traffic and caused the CPU to spike high to 99% After working on the router to restore it to normal levels the traffic had returned. Currently we are working on securing/stabalizing the MFN/AboveNet link at which point the network would return to normal. Fiber signals are measured in dB, what exactly happened is that our run at Telehouse ( 25 Broadway ) had too much dB loss, a -26 db, acceptable standards are between -5 and -20. This can be caused by dirt hitting the fiber optics. The connectors not being properly made, or a host of other problems that are not directly associated directly with our efforts to provide a stable connection. What we can hope for in the next few days, is that after today the MFN/AboveNet link will be looked over minutely and scrutinized by the best in the field and will prove to be reliable. If this link stays up in addition to our other providers we will not see any of the problems reported earlier. If our traffic falls back onto Yipes/Network Plus the router's interfaces are overloaded and will cause it to go down. Like Whoa, has been working non-stop the past 2 weeks to guarantee a stable network, and has been hurt more than many of you realize. We ask everyone to bear with us for just 1 more day as we truly feel these will be problems of the past. Best regards to all affected, Ben Uretsky Like Whoa, Inc.

12-09-2002, 01:31 PM	#73
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	They must be watching but not replying. Did they delete that picture? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

12-09-2002, 01:40 PM	#74
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	Q: how many russians does it take to clean a fiber line? A: likewhoa+1 __________________ Last edited by salsbury; 12-09-2002 at 01:44 PM..

12-09-2002, 01:47 PM	#76
Tukhman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New York City Posts: 337	What's there to respond, bunch of haters and wanna-be's, life's that easy ;-) Half of them hating like they know us, more like they know of us. The rest are trying to get some attention, we appreciate all the marketing innovation (LikeWhat?) ;-)))) As to competiton, you guys are all sweated up, most of you can't keep your dick up, still trying to get to the top. Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-) muhahahah __________________ <p align="right"> <a href="http://www.adultcentro.com/"><img height=31 src="http://www.allliquid.com/images/gif/ac_88x31.gif" width=88 border=0></a>

12-09-2002, 01:48 PM	#77
sync Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NY Posts: 204	Also what's the point of editing your post, if you have something to say, in a real conversation, once its said, its over.

12-09-2002, 01:54 PM	#81
Tukhman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New York City Posts: 337	Ryan, It aint' bragging if it's true __________________ <p align="right"> <a href="http://www.adultcentro.com/"><img height=31 src="http://www.allliquid.com/images/gif/ac_88x31.gif" width=88 border=0></a>

12-09-2002, 01:55 PM	#82
sync Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NY Posts: 204	We let BGP do the inbound routing for us. AboveNet proved to be a much better provider than Yipes and therefore most (not all) routes were selected over them. Route servers propogate only the selected best route, not all routes available to our subnets. Get on a real router ( not a route server which is a route reflector client ) and do a sh ip bgp xx.xx.xx.xx for our network. Do we need to give you BGP 101 lessons, if your going to post something, atleast do enough research to back up your argument. The circumstances of the past 2 weeks were out of our hands, if there was something this bunch of crazy russians could have done, it would have been done. Believe you me!

12-09-2002, 01:55 PM	#84
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12-09-2002, 01:57 PM	#85
X-treme So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 29	Hey all, Sals forgot the answer that he had to edit his post...hahah(retard) Listen we all know that LWI had a situation this past week and we all know that when someone goes down all the haters come out to play . The bottom line is thats natural in these case to thrash companies but seriously when is enough.... I understand that people are trying to get buissnees through this situation but honestly it's the wrong approach, you guys should be earning your braggin rights not bad mouthing people at the top.... I saw this thread ever since it developed and honestly nothing but hatters..You guys should be ashamed of your selves acting like little crack heads who have nothing better to do with all this yyayyayyayayayaya come on webbastards have a little respect for your elderly....

12-09-2002, 02:00 PM	#87
sync Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NY Posts: 204	We're using a Foundry Networks BigIron 8000 for our core1 router, and a BigIron 4000 router for our core2 location. Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet. The amount of CAM entries that need to be created are too much and the interface fails. Foundry Tech support has spent well over 100 hours in the past week to try and determine on how to improve/resolve this but without any luck. We do not loose hope, even when our vendors tell us there is no solution. We will always be here fighting to keep your connection up. What we tell customers/post on boards does not directly relate to the huge concerted effort in our organization to get your stuff back online. We're here to stay, and the sooner these problems are resolved, the sooner we can all get back to work and start making $$MoneY$$.

12-09-2002, 02:05 PM	#93
traffictrader Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ICQ# 93507395 Posts: 1,331	damnit Salsbury! I was sooo gonna use a yakov smirnoff reference, but you beat me to it. in soviet russia board posts you! __________________

12-09-2002, 02:20 PM	#98
sync Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NY Posts: 204	First off, Exodus is a failing company bought over by Cable and Wireless. Secondly, they had Foundry BigIron aggregate routers at their New Jersey City facility when I used to do work there over 1 year ago. Additionally, currently we are advertising our routes out 2 AS's. 6517 + 11846, Yipes / Network Plus respectively. The reason you see only 1 is because our MFN connection is not up, if it was these problems wouldn't be happening. As for why 11846 is not showing up, that's a good question, but here's our BGP summary to prove what I'm saying: Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend 64.61.24.149 11846 ESTAB 1h 9m11s 115416 0 8 0 66.7.129.225 6517 ESTAB 2h23m50s 115877 0 7 0 As you can see: 11846 has 8 routes sent to it, meaning we are advertising 8 networks through Network Plus. And 7 routes sent to 6517, 7 routes advertised through Yipes. Additionally, as soon as the cross connect is functional we will begin advertising our subnets to/through MFN in addition to these 2.

12-09-2002, 02:20 PM	#99
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12-09-2002, 02:25 PM	#100
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Hey Nick when Salsbury loses his job, can you hire him to update galleries for me? LikeWhat..... What pussy host are you? too afraid to post in your real name? figured as much