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SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2009, 11:41 AM

"An HVD (high-value detainee) may be walled (slamming a detainee's head against a wall) one time (one impact with the wall) to make a point or 20 to 30 times consecutively when the interrogator requires a more significant response to a question," the document said

cia details how to break a prisoner

theking · 08-26-2009, 12:11 PM

The very same things...and worse...are done to members of our own military. I am surprised that much harsher methods were not employed...unless more techniques are forth coming that are indeed harsher...those named are pretty tame methods. I myself have been through SERE as have thousands of our military of all branches.

DonovanTrent · 08-26-2009, 12:16 PM

edit.... never mind, not worth it.

Machete_ · 08-26-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

I myself have been through SERE as have thousands of our military of all branches.

if that was true(wich I dont belive), I would say they slammed your head in to the wall a few to many times

theking · 08-26-2009, 12:23 PM

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if that was true(wich I dont belive), I would say they slammed your head in to the wall a few to many times

There are others on this board that I am satisfied have been through SERE...if they weigh in on this thread...so fucking believe it.

hypedough · 08-26-2009, 12:24 PM

It's nice to see the CIA doing so well </sarcasm>

Machete_ · 08-26-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

There are others on this board that I am satisfied have been through SERE...if they weigh in on this thread...so fucking believe it.

dead alter ego's dont count as confirmation

theking · 08-26-2009, 12:29 PM

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dead alter ego's dont count as confirmation

I have never heard of you that I can recall and did not realize that you are just a troll...you are now dismissed.

Machete_ · 08-26-2009, 12:36 PM

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I have never heard of you that I can recall and did not realize that you are just a troll...you are now dismissed.

I trained at ninja assassin camp alongside PathFinder. We were later awarded the purple heart from 7 missions in De Nang.

Elli · 08-26-2009, 02:02 PM

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I trained at ninja assassin camp alongside PathFinder. We were later awarded the purple heart from 7 missions in De Nang.

I must say that ninja assassin camp must have been uber cool

Machete_ · 08-26-2009, 02:09 PM

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I must say that ninja assassin camp must have been uber cool

I could tell you about it, after we have fornicated? Neither of them will take long

Porn Grounds · 08-26-2009, 02:10 PM

When my friend went through marine boot camp a few years ago he said they weren't allowed to set a hand on them. They could only get yelled at...

My father on the other hand in the 40's ..that was a little different...but they didn't beat the shit out of them.

So I don't know where you went...

Elli · 08-26-2009, 02:12 PM

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I could tell you about it, after we have fornicated? Neither of them will take long

Sex in exchange for ninja secrets? Hmmm..... sounds tempting

The Duck · 08-26-2009, 02:23 PM

Disgusting.

theking · 08-26-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Grounds

When my friend went through marine boot camp a few years ago he said they weren't allowed to set a hand on them. They could only get yelled at...

My father on the other hand in the 40's ..that was a little different...but they didn't beat the shit out of them.

So I don't know where you went...

Aa I stated...SERE...and it is definitely hands on...as any military person that has gone through SERE training will tell you.

08-26-2009, 02:36 PM

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Sex in exchange for ninja secrets? Hmmm..... sounds tempting

Bloody ninjas... Pirates for the win!

Machete_ · 08-26-2009, 02:39 PM

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Bloody ninjas... Pirates for the win!

08-26-2009, 02:52 PM

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Mmmm Johnny Depp is so dreamy.

GatorB · 08-26-2009, 02:55 PM

I would think that 100% of us were being tortured even if we truley didn't know anything would tell ANYTHING just to have it stop. So please explain what good comes out of LIES?

"Oh well at least he told us something. Doesn't matter it's not true" The logic eludes me.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

The very same things...and worse...are done to members of our own military. I am surprised that much harsher methods were not employed...unless more techniques are forth coming that are indeed harsher...those named are pretty tame methods. I myself have been through SERE as have thousands of our military of all branches.

i'm sure in isolated cases this might take place even nowadays, but i highly doubt its standard training to get your head slammed against a wall 20-30 times if your answer isn't clear, otherwise our military would all be brain damaged, ( well let's say "more" brain damaged

)

SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I would think that 100% of us were being tortured even if we truley didn't know anything would tell ANYTHING just to have it stop. So please explain what good comes out of LIES?.

makes for a good excuse to beat brown people..?

cherrylula · 08-26-2009, 03:06 PM

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wow thats hot!

BestXXXPorn · 08-26-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

There are others on this board that I am satisfied have been through SERE...if they weigh in on this thread...so fucking believe it.

I'll weigh in, I was a scout sniper in the USMC... SERE school is no joke. They do far worse to you than any of those detainees ever got. They can hit you across the face as many times as they'd like, I've seen people lose teeth and there's all sorts of worse forms of torture than water boarding believe me...

BestXXXPorn · 08-26-2009, 03:18 PM

Let me break it down for you folks about what you go through at SERE school...

You can be backhanded across the face
You can be forcefully grabbed and shaken to any extent
You can be punched in the stomach so as not to cause permanent damage
You can be subjected to these interrogation methods:
Long time standing - shackled and made to stand for 40 hours (or more)
Water boarding - you probably know what that is
Cold Cell - how about being put in a cage naked and kept at 50 degrees you spend the time hunched down in a small cage and they don't allow you to touch any body part to any other body part (resting) or they hose you down
The list doesn't end here, that's just from what I remember off the top of my head. It's no joke! The school is designed for special forces who carry classified information. The intent is so that you can withstand torture should you be captured...

Although I'm sure the opposing forces would do much worse if they believed you actually had some very vital information.

seeandsee · 08-26-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

"An HVD (high-value detainee) may be walled (slamming a detainee's head against a wall) one time (one impact with the wall) to make a point or 20 to 30 times consecutively when the interrogator requires a more significant response to a question," the document said

cia details how to break a prisoner

lol they find a way :D

theking · 08-26-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

I'll weigh in, I was a scout sniper in the USMC... SERE school is no joke. They do far worse to you than any of those detainees ever got. They can hit you across the face as many times as they'd like, I've seen people lose teeth and there's all sorts of worse forms of torture than water boarding believe me...

Did you go through the Army SERE or Marine Corp SERE? The Marine Corp SERE was shut down at one point for being to brutal...I don't know if it was ever reactivated.

xxxdesign-net · 08-26-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Although I'm sure the opposing forces would do much worse if they believed you actually had some very vital information.

exactly, completely worthless... if slamming your head on the wall isnt enough, the enemy will go to the next level and so on...

SmokeyTheBear · 08-26-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Although I'm sure the opposing forces would do much worse if they believed you actually had some very vital information.

i wonder why go through all that trouble then , when the enemy is going to use interogation techniques far beyond what they could subject a soldier to in SERE.

but the more burning question is, Would they bang your head into the wall 30 times in a row in SERE ?

I guess its a rather moot point as banging someone's head against a wall is somewhat subjective to begin with . I could kill a man in less than 10 if i banged him hard enough i'm sure. So are they talking "tapping" or full force head smash lol

EZRhino · 08-26-2009, 04:09 PM

I say that some of these high value detainees and regular terrorists are still getting off to easy.

Pleasurepays · 08-26-2009, 04:09 PM

i'm sure the CIA just goes out and captures and beats people up for entertainment. there is really no other reason to travel across the globe, detain people, transport them and hold them. its an expensive hobby for sure.

i mean... what else could be going on that would require them to extract information from high value detainees...

and what's the rush? seriously... why would you be in a hurry? its not like the information is a matter of life and death or something.

of course, they also fully document everything for entertainment as well. funny how these really horrible people kept such great notes about what they were doing. maybe the CIA just hires really dumb people.

i hope that if your children get kidnapped and you know they have 6 hrs to live... you'll be careful to remember not to profile others as you try to find them. that wouldn't be fair to anyone.

PatrickKing · 08-26-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i'm sure the CIA just goes out and captures and beats people up for entertainment. there is really no other reason to travel across the globe, detain people, transport them and hold them. its an expensive hobby for sure.

i mean... what else could be going on that would require them to extract information from high value detainees...

and what's the rush? seriously... why would you be in a hurry? its not like the information is a matter of life and death or something.

of course, they also fully document everything for entertainment as well. funny how these really horrible people kept such great notes about what they were doing. maybe the CIA just hires really dumb people.

i hope that if your children get kidnapped and you know they have 6 hrs to live... you'll be careful to remember not to profile others as you try to find them. that wouldn't be fair to anyone.

Dead on! Thanks!

theking · 08-26-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i wonder why go through all that trouble then , when the enemy is going to use interogation techniques far beyond what they could subject a soldier to in SERE.

but the more burning question is, Would they bang your head into the wall 30 times in a row in SERE ?

I guess its a rather moot point as banging someone's head against a wall is somewhat subjective to begin with . I could kill a man in less than 10 if i banged him hard enough i'm sure. So are they talking "tapping" or full force head smash lol

The form of "walling" used on me was to bang my face and head down onto a table multiple times until my nose and head was bleeding...and that wasn't exactly "tapping". A few were knocked unconcious and that isn't exactly "tapping". SERE is not a pleasant experience...but helps to make one mentally tough...as a lot of military training is designed to do.

Pleasurepays · 08-26-2009, 04:24 PM

and the same fucking idiots who will call others "sheep" dont seem to be interested in what information was gathered from these interogations. no one wants to know how many lives were saved. how many other terrorists were taken into custody, how many planned attacks were disrupted.

and these people in question are not random people. we are talking about people at the very fucking top of the terrorist food chain. and what? someone got slapped? deprived of sleep? a terrorist leader was water boarded?

everyone just pretends to care so long as its a nice distraction from the health care reform which is quickly falling apart and other issues like cap and trade which are also faltering.

this is officially the dumbest nation on the planet.

xxxdesign-net · 08-26-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i hope that if your children get kidnapped and you know they have 6 hrs to live... you'll be careful to remember not to profile others as you try to find them. that wouldn't be fair to anyone.

wait, are you for the torture of Americans?

Pleasurepays · 08-26-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

wait, are you for the torture of Americans?

i thoroughly reject that retarded fucking argument. so give it up. just because you're a bleeding heart hippy doesn't mean the guy who is being shot at is.

»Rob Content« · 08-26-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i thoroughly reject that retarded fucking argument. so give it up. just because you're a bleeding heart hippy doesn't mean the guy who is being shot at is.

I don't think anything else needs to be said....

xxxdesign-net · 08-26-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i thoroughly reject that retarded fucking argument. so give it up. just because you're a bleeding heart hippy doesn't mean the guy who is being shot at is.

argument? just asking a question.. why so defensive? Kidnapped by terrorist or a psychopath... where is the difference? You are absolutely clueless if you don't know that its the next step

Pleasurepays · 08-26-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

argument? just asking a question.. why so defensive? Not too often a kid is being kidnapped by terrorists...

i hope you get kidnapped by terrorists. i'll be hte one reminding everyone that

1) we NEVER negotiate with terrorists

2) we cant ask those in custody who knows how to find you because they have rights

3) we can't ask other suspected terrorists or known terrorists because we'll "profiling"

and when we do catch the guy who can give the information to save your life.... we'll make sure we get him a suite at the Hilton first, nice clothes, room service, a massage and then we'll gently ask for information while the ACLU stands there, reminding him that he's within his rights to ignore us completely as we bring him more steak and beer

hopefully, you'll survive. but lets be honest here.. if we really cared, we'd just get the info from the guy who has it and rescue you.

xxxdesign-net · 08-26-2009, 04:43 PM

wow you re quick... I changed my post since the kid you were talking about was Berg...

xxxdesign-net · 08-26-2009, 04:46 PM

please answer my "new" question btw.. in a straightforward manner.. its a rather simple one...

Pleasurepays · 08-26-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

wow you re quick... I changed my post since the kid you were talking about was Berg...

... your stance is that if we're nice.. they'll be nice.

that's the "we cant torture logic"

so do we need to take a long hard look at what those same people do to aid workers? medical personnel trying to help? teachers?

but you're right... SURELY they will follow the Geneva Conventions when they capture a soldier... well... forgetting all the ones they've murdered/beheaded so far, of course! i mean... lets be fair to all you sorry fucking sniveling pussies out there who just want to give cold blooded, psychopathic murderers a chance. god forbid we deprive someone of sleep or pour water on them... after all, that's "torture"

DonovanTrent · 08-26-2009, 04:50 PM

I always thought we were a nation of laws and that we were supposed to abide by the laws we set. Silly me, I guess the end justifies the means, even if the means frequently extract fake info.

08-26-2009, 04:58 PM

I say we just bomb every country except Canada until they are nothing but 1 big Taco Bell parking lot. Then we'll enslave all the Canadians as Taco Bell employees.

I agree with everything Pleasurepays says.

xxxdesign-net · 08-26-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

... your stance is that if we're nice.. they'll be nice.

that's the "we cant torture logic"

so do we need to take a long hard look at what those same people do to aid workers? medical personnel trying to help? teachers?

but you're right... SURELY they will follow the Geneva Conventions when they capture a soldier... well... forgetting all the ones they've murdered/beheaded so far, of course! i mean... lets be fair to all you sorry fucking sniveling pussies out there who just want to give cold blooded, psychopathic murderers a chance. god forbid we deprive someone of sleep or pour water on them... after all, that's "torture"

my question was rather simple, you didnt answer it..

my stand is you watch too much 24... Many experts will say that torture is worthless no matter what you can imagine sitting in your computer chair... Torture is often use to get false confessions to suit an agenda or just mislead (ex. wmds, link between sadam and al quaida) , or just get bs admission of guilt.. But again, i ask, whats the difference between an islamic psychopath kidnapping someone and an american psychopath or terrorist..? If there is, there will be none in a few years... Whats the term for american terrorist nowadays? Extreme right wingers ..? lol

Rangermoore · 08-26-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH

if that was true(wich I dont belive), I would say they slammed your head in to the wall a few to many times

I have been to the SERE C-Level High Risk course iin 1987 among many other course's and what he says is true. I back that up...BTW when did you go KrisH? If not then STFU...

»Rob Content« · 08-26-2009, 05:30 PM

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I say we just bomb every country except Canada until they are nothing but 1 big Taco Bell parking lot. Then we'll enslave all the Canadians as Taco Bell employees.

I agree with everything Pleasurepays says.

I agree with everything he says as well, and have had some long discussions with him about this.

And, if more North American people don't start taking notice to everything going on around them they are going to wonder what happened in 10 years when it's mandatory for all women to wear a hijab in the new Islamica "formerly America"

Darkland · 08-26-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

and the same fucking idiots who will call others "sheep" dont seem to be interested in what information was gathered from these interogations. no one wants to know how many lives were saved. how many other terrorists were taken into custody, how many planned attacks were disrupted.

and these people in question are not random people. we are talking about people at the very fucking top of the terrorist food chain. and what? someone got slapped? deprived of sleep? a terrorist leader was water boarded?

everyone just pretends to care so long as its a nice distraction from the health care reform which is quickly falling apart and other issues like cap and trade which are also faltering.

this is officially the dumbest nation on the planet.

And those same idiots scream, WHY DIDN'T THEY DO SOMETHING, when shit hits the fan. Little realizing all the shit that gets stopped before it ever leads to anything and gets brought to the publics attention.

See more below...

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I always thought we were a nation of laws and that we were supposed to abide by the laws we set. Silly me, I guess the end justifies the means, even if the means frequently extract fake info.

I don't get this whole arguement other than it is just another pussification and pacification of bleeding heart Americans where you can no longer discipline your children or even yell at them or even ground them, where kids are never taught to lose in anything because the trauma is too much or leave no kid behind bullshit, etc.

When we are at war with someone what difference does it make if they are tortured when our soldiers are armed to the teeth and killing as many of them as they can find out on the battlefield?

And if you want to go on and on about our corrupt government and the corrupt agendas, then fucking well get off your ass and do something about.

These people didn't get into office all on their own, the public fucking well put them there and if they don't like the outcomes maybe they should start getting off their couches, from in front of their reality tv, put down the bag of chips, step away from the computer or video games or whatever else device people use to ignore everything else around them and fucking do something about it instead of playing the dumb as fuck, I know all the answers sitting from behind my keyboard, undereducated idiots with no more motivation than to fucking whine and play morality police so they can feel better about their insignificant lives.

</rant>

raymor · 08-26-2009, 06:02 PM

I don't take any position one way or another regarding any of these
techniques, but I don't think it's important to keep the facts straight.
Here's the actual procedure. Note that it's the shoulder blades, not
the head, which are supposed to contact a flexible false wall, so the
claim of "slamming their head against the wall" is a lie.

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Walling

For walling, a flexible false wall will be constructed. The individual is placed with his heels touching the wall. The interrogator pulls the individual forward and then quickly and firmly pushes the individual into the wall. It is the individual's shoulder blades that hit the wall. During this motion, the head and neck are supported with a rolled hood or towel that provides a c-collar effect to help prevent whiplash.

08-26-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland

And those same idiots scream, WHY DIDN'T THEY DO SOMETHING, when shit hits the fan. Little realizing all the shit that gets stopped before it ever leads to anything and gets brought to the publics attention.

See more below...

I don't get this whole arguement other than it is just another pussification and pacification of bleeding heart Americans where you can no longer discipline your children or even yell at them or even ground them, where kids are never taught to lose in anything because the trauma is too much or leave no kid behind bullshit, etc.

When we are at war with someone what difference does it make if they are tortured when our soldiers are armed to the teeth and killing as many of them as they can find out on the battlefield?

And if you want to go on and on about our corrupt government and the corrupt agendas, then fucking well get off your ass and do something about.

These people didn't get into office all on their own, the public fucking well put them there and if they don't like the outcomes maybe they should start getting off their couches, from in front of their reality tv, put down the bag of chips, step away from the computer or video games or whatever else device people use to ignore everything else around them and fucking do something about it instead of playing the dumb as fuck, I know all the answers sitting from behind my keyboard, undereducated idiots with no more motivation than to fucking whine and play morality police so they can feel better about their insignificant lives.

</rant>

Oh my god. I'm not even gay... But that just made me want to hump you.

JerryF · 08-26-2009, 07:09 PM

I agree with the anti pussy america folks. Torture is ugly and not nice and I wish it was something that wasn't necessary. I also wish that war didn't exist and everyone was happy as a pig in shit with no problems.

But the real world just isn't that way. I don't think American forces should just torture every poor son of a bitch they bring in. I'm sure they don't, and I'm sure REAL torture/hardcore interrogation is used when its really necessary. If some poor bastard gets picked up and fucked up unjustly - first, i doubt that person is going to be completely innocent. second, it sucks, but fuck it. Shit needs to get done. We are handing our country and our values over to a bunch of pussies. Terrorists use our own pussy ass PC bullshit against us. We just keep making ourselves weaker.

Like I said, wish it all wasn't so, but its the way it is.

08-26-2009, 11:41 AM	#1
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theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	The very same things...and worse...are done to members of our own military. I am surprised that much harsher methods were not employed...unless more techniques are forth coming that are indeed harsher...those named are pretty tame methods. I myself have been through SERE as have thousands of our military of all branches. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	I would think that 100% of us were being tortured even if we truley didn't know anything would tell ANYTHING just to have it stop. So please explain what good comes out of LIES? "Oh well at least he told us something. Doesn't matter it's not true" The logic eludes me.

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BestXXXPorn Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 2,277	Let me break it down for you folks about what you go through at SERE school... You can be backhanded across the face You can be forcefully grabbed and shaken to any extent You can be punched in the stomach so as not to cause permanent damage You can be subjected to these interrogation methods: Long time standing - shackled and made to stand for 40 hours (or more) Water boarding - you probably know what that is Cold Cell - how about being put in a cage naked and kept at 50 degrees you spend the time hunched down in a small cage and they don't allow you to touch any body part to any other body part (resting) or they hose you down The list doesn't end here, that's just from what I remember off the top of my head. It's no joke! The school is designed for special forces who carry classified information. The intent is so that you can withstand torture should you be captured... Although I'm sure the opposing forces would do much worse if they believed you actually had some very vital information. __________________ ICQ: 258-202-811 \| Email: eric{at}bestxxxporn.com

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EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	I say that some of these high value detainees and regular terrorists are still getting off to easy.

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	i'm sure the CIA just goes out and captures and beats people up for entertainment. there is really no other reason to travel across the globe, detain people, transport them and hold them. its an expensive hobby for sure. i mean... what else could be going on that would require them to extract information from high value detainees... and what's the rush? seriously... why would you be in a hurry? its not like the information is a matter of life and death or something. of course, they also fully document everything for entertainment as well. funny how these really horrible people kept such great notes about what they were doing. maybe the CIA just hires really dumb people. i hope that if your children get kidnapped and you know they have 6 hrs to live... you'll be careful to remember not to profile others as you try to find them. that wouldn't be fair to anyone.

08-26-2009, 04:24 PM	#33
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	and the same fucking idiots who will call others "sheep" dont seem to be interested in what information was gathered from these interogations. no one wants to know how many lives were saved. how many other terrorists were taken into custody, how many planned attacks were disrupted. and these people in question are not random people. we are talking about people at the very fucking top of the terrorist food chain. and what? someone got slapped? deprived of sleep? a terrorist leader was water boarded? everyone just pretends to care so long as its a nice distraction from the health care reform which is quickly falling apart and other issues like cap and trade which are also faltering. this is officially the dumbest nation on the planet.

08-26-2009, 04:43 PM	#39
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	wow you re quick... I changed my post since the kid you were talking about was Berg...

08-26-2009, 04:46 PM	#40
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	please answer my "new" question btw.. in a straightforward manner.. its a rather simple one...

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DonovanTrent Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 968	I always thought we were a nation of laws and that we were supposed to abide by the laws we set. Silly me, I guess the end justifies the means, even if the means frequently extract fake info. __________________ Donovan Trent

08-26-2009, 04:58 PM	#43
Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE Guest Posts: n/a	I say we just bomb every country except Canada until they are nothing but 1 big Taco Bell parking lot. Then we'll enslave all the Canadians as Taco Bell employees. I agree with everything Pleasurepays says.

08-26-2009, 07:09 PM	#50
JerryF Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 80	I agree with the anti pussy america folks. Torture is ugly and not nice and I wish it was something that wasn't necessary. I also wish that war didn't exist and everyone was happy as a pig in shit with no problems. But the real world just isn't that way. I don't think American forces should just torture every poor son of a bitch they bring in. I'm sure they don't, and I'm sure REAL torture/hardcore interrogation is used when its really necessary. If some poor bastard gets picked up and fucked up unjustly - first, i doubt that person is going to be completely innocent. second, it sucks, but fuck it. Shit needs to get done. We are handing our country and our values over to a bunch of pussies. Terrorists use our own pussy ass PC bullshit against us. We just keep making ourselves weaker. Like I said, wish it all wasn't so, but its the way it is. __________________ -- Jerry