Originally Posted by theking (Post 16238365)

I myself have been through SERE as have thousands of our military of all branches.

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238390)

if that was true(wich I dont belive), I would say they slammed your head in to the wall a few to many times

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16238397)

There are others on this board that I am satisfied have been through SERE...if they weigh in on this thread...so fucking believe it.

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238404)

dead alter ego's dont count as confirmation

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16238410)

I have never heard of you that I can recall and did not realize that you are just a troll...you are now dismissed.

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238428)

I trained at ninja assassin camp alongside PathFinder. We were later awarded the purple heart from 7 missions in De Nang.

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 16238810)

I must say that ninja assassin camp must have been uber cool :)

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238835)

I could tell you about it, after we have fornicated? Neither of them will take long

Originally Posted by Porn Grounds (Post 16238836)

When my friend went through marine boot camp a few years ago he said they weren't allowed to set a hand on them. They could only get yelled at...

My father on the other hand in the 40's ..that was a little different...but they didn't beat the shit out of them.

So I don't know where you went...

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 16238844)

Sex in exchange for ninja secrets? Hmmm..... sounds tempting :)

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16238961)

Bloody ninjas... Pirates for the win!

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238973)

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16238365)

The very same things...and worse...are done to members of our own military. I am surprised that much harsher methods were not employed...unless more techniques are forth coming that are indeed harsher...those named are pretty tame methods. I myself have been through SERE as have thousands of our military of all branches.

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16239026)

I would think that 100% of us were being tortured even if we truley didn't know anything would tell ANYTHING just to have it stop. So please explain what good comes out of LIES?.

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238973)

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16238397)

There are others on this board that I am satisfied have been through SERE...if they weigh in on this thread...so fucking believe it.

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16238265)

"An HVD (high-value detainee) may be walled (slamming a detainee's head against a wall) one time (one impact with the wall) to make a point or 20 to 30 times consecutively when the interrogator requires a more significant response to a question," the document said

cia details how to break a prisoner

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 16239090)

I'll weigh in, I was a scout sniper in the USMC... SERE school is no joke. They do far worse to you than any of those detainees ever got. They can hit you across the face as many times as they'd like, I've seen people lose teeth and there's all sorts of worse forms of torture than water boarding believe me...

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 16239127)

Although I'm sure the opposing forces would do much worse if they believed you actually had some very vital information.

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 16239127)

Although I'm sure the opposing forces would do much worse if they believed you actually had some very vital information.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16239290)

i'm sure the CIA just goes out and captures and beats people up for entertainment. there is really no other reason to travel across the globe, detain people, transport them and hold them. its an expensive hobby for sure.

i mean... what else could be going on that would require them to extract information from high value detainees...

and what's the rush? seriously... why would you be in a hurry? its not like the information is a matter of life and death or something.

of course, they also fully document everything for entertainment as well. funny how these really horrible people kept such great notes about what they were doing. maybe the CIA just hires really dumb people.

i hope that if your children get kidnapped and you know they have 6 hrs to live... you'll be careful to remember not to profile others as you try to find them. that wouldn't be fair to anyone.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16239286)

i wonder why go through all that trouble then , when the enemy is going to use interogation techniques far beyond what they could subject a soldier to in SERE.

but the more burning question is, Would they bang your head into the wall 30 times in a row in SERE ?

I guess its a rather moot point as banging someone's head against a wall is somewhat subjective to begin with . I could kill a man in less than 10 if i banged him hard enough i'm sure. So are they talking "tapping" or full force head smash lol

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16239290)

i hope that if your children get kidnapped and you know they have 6 hrs to live... you'll be careful to remember not to profile others as you try to find them. that wouldn't be fair to anyone.

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 16239335)

wait, are you for the torture of Americans?

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16239342)

i thoroughly reject that retarded fucking argument. so give it up. just because you're a bleeding heart hippy doesn't mean the guy who is being shot at is.

http://www.theschifferreport.com/ima...ng-graphic.jpg

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16239342)

i thoroughly reject that retarded fucking argument. so give it up. just because you're a bleeding heart hippy doesn't mean the guy who is being shot at is.

http://www.theschifferreport.com/ima...ng-graphic.jpg

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 16239360)

argument? just asking a question.. why so defensive? Not too often a kid is being kidnapped by terrorists...

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 16239379)

wow you re quick... I changed my post since the kid you were talking about was Berg...

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16239389)

... your stance is that if we're nice.. they'll be nice.

that's the "we cant torture logic"

so do we need to take a long hard look at what those same people do to aid workers? medical personnel trying to help? teachers?

but you're right... SURELY they will follow the Geneva Conventions when they capture a soldier... well... forgetting all the ones they've murdered/beheaded so far, of course! i mean... lets be fair to all you sorry fucking sniveling pussies out there who just want to give cold blooded, psychopathic murderers a chance. god forbid we deprive someone of sleep or pour water on them... after all, that's "torture"

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16238390)

if that was true(wich I dont belive), I would say they slammed your head in to the wall a few to many times

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16239416)

I say we just bomb every country except Canada until they are nothing but 1 big Taco Bell parking lot. Then we'll enslave all the Canadians as Taco Bell employees.


I agree with everything Pleasurepays says.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16239330)

and the same fucking idiots who will call others "sheep" dont seem to be interested in what information was gathered from these interogations. no one wants to know how many lives were saved. how many other terrorists were taken into custody, how many planned attacks were disrupted.

and these people in question are not random people. we are talking about people at the very fucking top of the terrorist food chain. and what? someone got slapped? deprived of sleep? a terrorist leader was water boarded?

everyone just pretends to care so long as its a nice distraction from the health care reform which is quickly falling apart and other issues like cap and trade which are also faltering.

this is officially the dumbest nation on the planet.

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16239393)

I always thought we were a nation of laws and that we were supposed to abide by the laws we set. Silly me, I guess the end justifies the means, even if the means frequently extract fake info.

Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 16239522)

And those same idiots scream, WHY DIDN'T THEY DO SOMETHING, when shit hits the fan. Little realizing all the shit that gets stopped before it ever leads to anything and gets brought to the publics attention.

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I don't get this whole arguement other than it is just another pussification and pacification of bleeding heart Americans where you can no longer discipline your children or even yell at them or even ground them, where kids are never taught to lose in anything because the trauma is too much or leave no kid behind bullshit, etc.

When we are at war with someone what difference does it make if they are tortured when our soldiers are armed to the teeth and killing as many of them as they can find out on the battlefield?

And if you want to go on and on about our corrupt government and the corrupt agendas, then fucking well get off your ass and do something about.

These people didn't get into office all on their own, the public fucking well put them there and if they don't like the outcomes maybe they should start getting off their couches, from in front of their reality tv, put down the bag of chips, step away from the computer or video games or whatever else device people use to ignore everything else around them and fucking do something about it instead of playing the dumb as fuck, I know all the answers sitting from behind my keyboard, undereducated idiots with no more motivation than to fucking whine and play morality police so they can feel better about their insignificant lives.

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