DOJ Obscenity Task Force Brings indictment Against NJ Porner - GoFuckYourself.com

mikesouth · 07-26-2009, 11:15 AM

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http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2009/July/09-ag-721.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, July 24, 2009
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(202) 514-2007
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New Jersey Man Charged with Obscenity Violations

A Jersey City, N.J., producer has been charged by a federal grand jury in Newark, N.J. with distributing obscene DVDs through the mails.

Barry Goldman, 58, was charged with eight counts of using the mails to deliver DVDs containing allegedly obscene films from Jersey City to addresses in Montana and Virginia. The indictment seeks forfeiture of the proceeds from the sale of the DVDs, along with property used in producing the DVDs, all web sites operated by Goldman and other property.

If convicted, Goldman faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 on each of the eight counts charged in the indictment.

An indictment is merely an accusation. All defendants are presumed innocent of the charges and it is the government?s burden to prove a defendant?s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt at trial.

The case is being prosecuted by Trial Attorney Bonnie Hannan of the Criminal Division?s Obscenity Prosecution Task Force.

Investigation of the case was conducted by the FBI?s Adult Obscenity Squad based in the Washington, D.C. Field Office.

anyone know what kind of videos this guy was making and selling?

Appears Obama isn't going to be soft on porners

nation-x · 07-26-2009, 11:24 AM

The specific films named in the indictment are “Torture of Porn Star Girl,” “Pregnant and Willing” and “Defiant Crista Submits.”

http://www.defendourporn.org/?p=35

Dirty Dane · 07-26-2009, 11:28 AM

Is preggo porn obscene??

cherrylula · 07-26-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Is preggo porn obscene??

To a jury of peers, often yes it is. To us, no.

mvee · 07-26-2009, 11:32 AM

Here are the titles:

http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...rl-N-1294.html
http://www.video-x.com/defiant,crist...ts-N-1304.html
http://www.video-x.com/pregnant,willing-N-1371.html
http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...ar-N-2007.html

sortie · 07-26-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Appears Obama isn't going to be soft on porners

Dirty Dane · 07-26-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

To a jury of peers, often yes it is.

Why?
I like to see some arguments from earlier cases on this one.

LiveDose · 07-26-2009, 11:36 AM

What a complete waste of taxpayer's money.

A country of prudes and hypocrites is what we are.

Dirty Dane · 07-26-2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvee

Here are the titles:

http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...rl-N-1294.html
http://www.video-x.com/defiant,crist...ts-N-1304.html
http://www.video-x.com/pregnant,willing-N-1371.html
http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...ar-N-2007.html

hm ok. Looks like more than just pregnancy

cherrylula · 07-26-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mvee

Here are the titles:

Wow hog tieng preggos on their stomach?

ouch!

stickyfingerz · 07-26-2009, 11:39 AM

Looks like pretty mild stuff to be called obscene. Go Obama...

sortie · 07-26-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvee

Here are the titles:

http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...rl-N-1294.html
http://www.video-x.com/defiant,crist...ts-N-1304.html
http://www.video-x.com/pregnant,willing-N-1371.html
http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...ar-N-2007.html

Not good.

PurrrsianPussyKat · 07-26-2009, 11:43 AM

Why on earth would he ship that shit through the mail? Dumb dumb dumb!

fatfoo · 07-26-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

If convicted, Goldman faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 on each of the eight counts charged in the indictment.

That sucks for him...

DonovanTrent · 07-26-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

anyone know what kind of videos this guy was making and selling?

Appears Obama isn't going to be soft on porners

LOL OK Mike... you want to amend that statement now that you know the titles in question?

Pretty envelope-pushing stuff, ESPECIALLY when sent through US Mail. What a frickin' dumbass, that's just asking for trouble.

BSleazy · 07-26-2009, 12:57 PM

stupid...

cherrylula · 07-26-2009, 01:34 PM

How can you hogtie girls on their stomach without hurting baby???

marketsmart · 07-26-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Looks like pretty mild stuff to be called obscene. Go Obama...

ok, now you sound like 12assholes ron...

SBJ · 07-26-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

How can you hogtie girls on their stomach without hurting baby???

exactly.. I doubt peggo sex by itself is that bad but this stuff is not the type of stuff you should be sending in the mail

DaddyHalbucks · 07-26-2009, 02:28 PM

Meanwhile Obama's government has stolen more money from the people than all previous US governments combined..

And, NJ is bankrupt and rudderless.

Pleasurepays · 07-26-2009, 02:30 PM

This would never happen under a Democratic President!

Vote Obama for Hope and Change

er... wait...

what?

DonovanTrent · 07-26-2009, 02:43 PM

Let's get real for a second... it doesn't matter who's President, sending stuff like that through the mail is still going to get your ass in a sling.

PurrrsianPussyKat · 07-26-2009, 03:07 PM

What willy wonka said!

mikesouth · 07-26-2009, 04:33 PM

I have always said that deomocrats or republicans either one will sell us out in a heartbeat if they see one iota ofpolitical gain in it. It isnt about ideology its about pandering for votes.

Only the Libertarians publicly state we have the right to do what we do.

If you think dems or reps are your friends you are living in a dream

Pleasurepays · 07-26-2009, 04:44 PM

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2009, 04:54 PM

I do think its hilarious you guys are blaming Obama for a guy mailing videos of child endangerment type of porn. While I understand the notion you insinuate, you surely detract from the actual topic which should be... is porn okay to produce if you risk the life of a child in the womb?

tony286 · 07-26-2009, 05:13 PM

in the words of Paul Harvey and here is the rest of the story. The indictment came down August 2008.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2...enity_charges/

Florida Producer Charged With Obscenity Violations
Posted on Tuesday, 16 of September , 2008 at 9:47 pm

BILLINGS, MONT?A Florida producer has been charged by a federal grand jury in Billings, Mont., with distributing obscene DVDs through the mails.

In a sealed indictment returned by the grand jury on Aug. 20, and unsealed Tuesday in federal court in Billings, Miami resident Barry Goldman, 58, doing business using the names Torture Portal, Masters of Pain and Bacchus Studios, was charged with three counts of using the mails to deliver DVDs containing obscene films to an address in Billings and one count that seeks forfeiture of certain assets of the defendant.

The specific films named in the indictment are ?Torture of Porn Star Girl,? ?Pregnant and Willing? and ?Defiant Crista Submits.?

If convicted, Goldman faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 on each of the three counts charged in the indictment. 9-16-08

marketsmart · 07-26-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

did you read the indictment date.. so is it bush's fault now?

listen, i can try to see if i have some room in my warehouse to store your fail..

topnotch, standup guy · 07-26-2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

in the words of Paul Harvey and here is the rest of the story. The indictment came down August 2008.

I'm not surprised. Kind of figured it was something that was already in the pipeline.

I suppose that all the GFY republicans will be rather disappointed though.

Pleasurepays · 07-26-2009, 05:37 PM

your messiah, black jesus.... the Constitutional Lawyer had and has the power to stop all this or even tear down the "Obscenity Task Force".... but he's not going to do something that's going to cost him votes.

Obama is at the helm... its Obama's Department of Justice. Not Bush's

tony286 · 07-26-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

your messiah, black jesus.... the Constitutional Lawyer had and has the power to stop all this or even tear down the "Obscenity Task Force".... but he's not going to do something that's going to cost him votes.

Obama is at the helm... its Obama's Department of Justice. Not Bush's

you are so funny. On a major liberal blog today they accused me of being a right wing plant because Im so hard on my party.

stickyfingerz · 07-26-2009, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I do think its hilarious you guys are blaming Obama for a guy mailing videos of child endangerment type of porn. While I understand the notion you insinuate, you surely detract from the actual topic which should be... is porn okay to produce if you risk the life of a child in the womb?

Obama has no prob with sucking them out of the womb with a hoover, and you actually pull the Child endagerment shit? L M A O So killing a child before its born is ok in some instances...

sheesh.

DonovanTrent · 07-26-2009, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

your messiah, black jesus.... the Constitutional Lawyer had and has the power to stop all this or even tear down the "Obscenity Task Force".... but he's not going to do something that's going to cost him votes.

Obama is at the helm... its Obama's Department of Justice. Not Bush's

Look, I'm all for letting people buy what they want to buy, etc. But Mike's right, unless there's a Libertarian in office, we're going to have situations like this, and people can either play it smart or play it stupid. This guy chose to play it stupid. Or maybe they don't have UPS or FedEx where he lives?

Fletch XXX · 07-26-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Obama has no prob with sucking them out of the womb with a hoover, and you actually pull the Child endagerment shit? L M A O So killing a child before its born is ok in some instances...

sheesh.

The topic, has nothing to do with Obama, the fact you keep wanting to make it so proves you have no real side to debate and simply want to bash Obama.

Hogtieing girls for periods of time and forcing them to lie on their stomach, doesnt sound like a good idea, but go ahead, keep bring up divisive topics like abortion and Obama and avoid an actual discussion. Filming bondage on pregnant women, involving tieing them up and forcing them to lay on stomach and then mailing it out, is walking a line most would stear clear of.

topnotch, standup guy · 07-26-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

your messiah, black jesus.... the Constitutional Lawyer had and has the power to stop all this or even tear down the "Obscenity Task Force".... but he's not going to do something that's going to cost him votes.

Obama is at the helm... its Obama's Department of Justice. Not Bush's

Come on get real. No one in their right mind expected the man to come out and defend porn.

A lot of us were counting on some Clinton administration style benign neglect however and, as of now, it looks like that might still be in the cards

directfiesta · 07-26-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Meanwhile Obama's government has stolen more money from the people than all previous US governments combined..

And, NJ is bankrupt and rudderless.

He also stole the few brain cells you had left

As for the topic, the pregnant one is a bit controversial, because it is implicating an unwilling soon to be born child ... He could suffer sequels from this.

Other titles ... to each is own .. You want to do it, you want to watch it ... should not even be of concern to the authorities

Rochard · 07-26-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose

What a complete waste of taxpayer's money.

A country of prudes and hypocrites is what we are.

No kidding. They'll spend millions to go court and then more money to lock him up. All because he shot an adult video with consenting adults?

spacedog · 07-26-2009, 09:12 PM

Mouse traps on her titties!! OUCH!

Motherfucker.. after typing that, I thought how painful a mousetrap would be on my dick..

pocketkangaroo · 07-26-2009, 09:17 PM

If it was about the well being of the child, it should be child endangerment or whatever law prohibits people from doing danger to an unborn child.

The charge is obscenity and that's what should be judged. It's sad as a nation that we target free speech like this. Hopefully the ACLU or someone will take the case and win.

DonovanTrent · 07-26-2009, 09:46 PM

I agree that obscenity prosecutions are ridiculous. But when you're standing in a swamp, you can cry all you want that there should be no mud, but you're still standing in a swamp. that's reality.

Best thing to do, don't step in the swamp.

GonZo · 07-26-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

your messiah, black jesus.... the Constitutional Lawyer had and has the power to stop all this or even tear down the "Obscenity Task Force".... but he's not going to do something that's going to cost him votes.

Obama is at the helm... its Obama's Department of Justice. Not Bush's

If he had Lee Noga's zip code list none of this would have happened...

NKYKev · 07-27-2009, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvee

Here are the titles:

http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...rl-N-1294.html
http://www.video-x.com/defiant,crist...ts-N-1304.html
http://www.video-x.com/pregnant,willing-N-1371.html
http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...ar-N-2007.html

I am seeing several stories saying only 3 movies were charged in the original indictment, and they all seem to say it is the "Porn Star" video that was charged. Have they added the "Porn Store" video? It seems the "Porn Store" video contains more extreme content; the "Porn Star" type of content can be found on almost any BDSM site.

pornlaw · 07-27-2009, 06:27 PM

Attorney General Eric Holder is no friend of this industry. And having David Ogden in there as the Deputy Attorney General is no benefit either.

Many thought having a former porn attorney would catch us a break, but it might result in just the opposite effect.

As an attorney I hate dealing with either defense or plaintiff counsel that have now done a flip-flop. They are usually more difficult to deal with since they know what being on the other side is like.

Even though this indictment came down under Bush, it doesnt appear that the Holder/Ogden team is going to be soft on porn.

I still think the bellweather case is John Stagliano's case. If that starts moving forward I think that will signal the true intentions of this administration.

This current case against Goldman is still somewhat fringe and is against a smaller producer. Not exactly a battle when it comes to prosecutions.

07-26-2009, 11:15 AM	#1
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	DOJ Obscenity Task Force Brings indictment Against NJ Porner from http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2009/July/09-ag-721.html FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, July 24, 2009 WWW.USDOJ.GOV AG (202) 514-2007 TDD (202) 514-1888 New Jersey Man Charged with Obscenity Violations A Jersey City, N.J., producer has been charged by a federal grand jury in Newark, N.J. with distributing obscene DVDs through the mails. Barry Goldman, 58, was charged with eight counts of using the mails to deliver DVDs containing allegedly obscene films from Jersey City to addresses in Montana and Virginia. The indictment seeks forfeiture of the proceeds from the sale of the DVDs, along with property used in producing the DVDs, all web sites operated by Goldman and other property. If convicted, Goldman faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 on each of the eight counts charged in the indictment. An indictment is merely an accusation. All defendants are presumed innocent of the charges and it is the government?s burden to prove a defendant?s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. The case is being prosecuted by Trial Attorney Bonnie Hannan of the Criminal Division?s Obscenity Prosecution Task Force. Investigation of the case was conducted by the FBI?s Adult Obscenity Squad based in the Washington, D.C. Field Office. anyone know what kind of videos this guy was making and selling? Appears Obama isn't going to be soft on porners __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

07-26-2009, 11:24 AM	#2
nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	The specific films named in the indictment are “Torture of Porn Star Girl,” “Pregnant and Willing” and “Defiant Crista Submits.” http://www.defendourporn.org/?p=35 Last edited by nation-x; 07-26-2009 at 11:26 AM..

07-26-2009, 11:36 AM	#8
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07-26-2009, 11:28 AM	#3
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mvee Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: sf Posts: 938	Here are the titles: http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...rl-N-1294.html http://www.video-x.com/defiant,crist...ts-N-1304.html http://www.video-x.com/pregnant,willing-N-1371.html http://www.video-x.com/torture,of,a,...ar-N-2007.html

07-26-2009, 11:39 AM	#11
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Looks like pretty mild stuff to be called obscene. Go Obama...

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	How can you hogtie girls on their stomach without hurting baby???

07-26-2009, 02:28 PM	#20
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Meanwhile Obama's government has stolen more money from the people than all previous US governments combined.. And, NJ is bankrupt and rudderless. __________________ Boner Money

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	This would never happen under a Democratic President! Vote Obama for Hope and Change er... wait... what?

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DonovanTrent Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 968	Let's get real for a second... it doesn't matter who's President, sending stuff like that through the mail is still going to get your ass in a sling. __________________ Donovan Trent

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I have always said that deomocrats or republicans either one will sell us out in a heartbeat if they see one iota ofpolitical gain in it. It isnt about ideology its about pandering for votes. Only the Libertarians publicly state we have the right to do what we do. If you think dems or reps are your friends you are living in a dream __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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07-26-2009, 04:54 PM	#26
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I do think its hilarious you guys are blaming Obama for a guy mailing videos of child endangerment type of porn. While I understand the notion you insinuate, you surely detract from the actual topic which should be... is porn okay to produce if you risk the life of a child in the womb? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

07-26-2009, 05:13 PM	#27
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	in the words of Paul Harvey and here is the rest of the story. The indictment came down August 2008. http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2...enity_charges/ Florida Producer Charged With Obscenity Violations Posted on Tuesday, 16 of September , 2008 at 9:47 pm BILLINGS, MONT?A Florida producer has been charged by a federal grand jury in Billings, Mont., with distributing obscene DVDs through the mails. In a sealed indictment returned by the grand jury on Aug. 20, and unsealed Tuesday in federal court in Billings, Miami resident Barry Goldman, 58, doing business using the names Torture Portal, Masters of Pain and Bacchus Studios, was charged with three counts of using the mails to deliver DVDs containing obscene films to an address in Billings and one count that seeks forfeiture of certain assets of the defendant. The specific films named in the indictment are ?Torture of Porn Star Girl,? ?Pregnant and Willing? and ?Defiant Crista Submits.? If convicted, Goldman faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 on each of the three counts charged in the indictment. 9-16-08

07-26-2009, 05:37 PM	#30
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	your messiah, black jesus.... the Constitutional Lawyer had and has the power to stop all this or even tear down the "Obscenity Task Force".... but he's not going to do something that's going to cost him votes. Obama is at the helm... its Obama's Department of Justice. Not Bush's

07-26-2009, 09:12 PM	#38
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Mouse traps on her titties!! OUCH! Motherfucker.. after typing that, I thought how painful a mousetrap would be on my dick..

07-26-2009, 09:17 PM	#39
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	If it was about the well being of the child, it should be child endangerment or whatever law prohibits people from doing danger to an unborn child. The charge is obscenity and that's what should be judged. It's sad as a nation that we target free speech like this. Hopefully the ACLU or someone will take the case and win.

07-26-2009, 09:46 PM	#40
DonovanTrent Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 968	I agree that obscenity prosecutions are ridiculous. But when you're standing in a swamp, you can cry all you want that there should be no mud, but you're still standing in a swamp. that's reality. Best thing to do, don't step in the swamp. __________________ Donovan Trent

07-27-2009, 06:27 PM	#43
pornlaw Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,895	Attorney General Eric Holder is no friend of this industry. And having David Ogden in there as the Deputy Attorney General is no benefit either. Many thought having a former porn attorney would catch us a break, but it might result in just the opposite effect. As an attorney I hate dealing with either defense or plaintiff counsel that have now done a flip-flop. They are usually more difficult to deal with since they know what being on the other side is like. Even though this indictment came down under Bush, it doesnt appear that the Holder/Ogden team is going to be soft on porn. I still think the bellweather case is John Stagliano's case. If that starts moving forward I think that will signal the true intentions of this administration. This current case against Goldman is still somewhat fringe and is against a smaller producer. Not exactly a battle when it comes to prosecutions. __________________ Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com