I'm a lier? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
The domain was thewarcraftforum.com and it was sold right here on GFY

But the correct answer is "C. You don't even have any traffic or aren't even a webmaster." .... anymore. Because I stopped working

Wow, fuck combining A,B, and C...let me put my emphasis on B!

I just sold google a couple weeks ago on GFY too.

Fuck, gotta go, my private jet is here.

:1orglaugh

He hit me up too. He is totally insane. :helpme

[02:07] Franck: you are just too much man
[02:07] Franck: unbelievable
[02:07] Franck: are you even sane?
[02:07] Franck: youre not right?
[02:07] DWB: i love you
[02:07] Franck: fucking hell...you just keep amazing me with your retardation
[02:08] Franck: unbefuckinglievable

[02:08] DWB: it must KILL you to read and not be able to post
[02:08] Franck: hardly
[02:08] DWB: right
[02:08] Franck: i could get a fake nick in 2 mins
[02:09] DWB: and banned just as fast
[02:09] Franck: so no it doesnt kill me
[02:09] DWB: yea right
[02:09] Franck: my last fake nick lasted a week or so
[02:09] Franck: so youre wrong again
[02:09] DWB: lol
[02:09] DWB: you're good entertainment, i do wish you would come back

[02:10] Franck: i wish someone would shit in your face and bang the cards of all your family members to hell... :1orglaugh
[02:10] DWB: lol
[02:10] DWB: i like shit in my face. piss too
[02:11] DWB: so that is not an insult to me
[02:11] DWB: scat 4 life
[02:11] Franck: i just hope you get scammed man...i really hope so...you so deserve it

I went on to tell him how I have been scammed before, thought maybe I could have a real convo with him, but as soon as you start to write anything of any merit, he won't reply. Probably because he doesn't comprehend big words.

So let me get this right. Franck is banned, yet spends all his time reading GFY but unable to post, hitting people on ICQ to post for him, taking screen caps of join pages, giving them to others to post, and attacking people on ICQ that doesn't agree with him? :1orglaugh

What a complete fucking loon. :2 cents:

I think the guy is going off the deep end or something.

In any case his credibility, or what was left of it, has just gone completely out the window.

But hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day and xxxjay is right about brazzers.

Amongst the online community, there is a general belief that Brazzers either owns and/or operates several tube sites that feature mostly content from other studios being used without the studios permission to the benefit of Brazzers.

That sucks. :(

Should this go back to the top?

Welcome to the thread, thanks for the contribution.

How exactly will visa and mastercard know, and why would they care if the content is legal? When you order rape pornography, does the charge come through with "JOE'S RAPE PORN EMPORIUM"? Nope. It'll come through as something like "PAYCOM", or the name of the credit card processor.

Additionally, the extreme associates case was previously dropped:

However, the doj appealed the ruling, and in the retrial the owners simply folded to avoid having to pay another set of mounting legal fees.

What do you mean, "How will they know?"

Here's a quick education: Visa reviews a site's content before the ability to process is granted. They (Visa) are liable for the content they process for.

This is why MANY sites put up fake tours and/or members areas to get approved. Then switch them out later. If you send an email to Visa about a site with objectionable content they will review the site, and then discontinue the ability for that site to accept Visa credit cards.

Plain and simple.

By that reply, I can tell you know nothing, and you must think what's going thru your head is accurate and correct. I'm not even going to take the time to explain it to you, i'll just superficially agree with you to end it. You are officially too fucking stupid to even reason with.

<sarcasm>You're 100% right, Visa & Mastercard is cool with fake rape porn. You win. When they see that site, they will go "oh this is cool." And they will never see that site because it's billed as "PAYCOM" and thats the only way they could ever find out. </sarcasm>

The other ironic thing about my sarcastic reply - paycom wouldn't touch that site with a 10 foot pole.

That's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of how they could find out, and that's not all that could happen... Visa/MC is a private company, they can do whatever they want. You step far enough over the line, it may go beyond a big fine, and they may kill business for your entire entity (or all of them). Anyone who is anyone knows there are 3 no-nos in porn: child porn, beastiality, and rape.

illegal tubes and illegal xsales and illegal rape content

combine them all together and make bank!

first came evolution now comes devolution

Pimproll has had no cross sale linking codes for 9 months now. Paying PPS on trials with zero cross sales if people choose them. I believe the first programme to do it also...

You can get this product for free now, anytime you want it, but I will continue to attempt to sell it to you anyway.

Sound familiar?

I'm thinking about peddling sand down by the beach. Anyone want in?

That's funny, I'm thinking about going to hell to sell some fire. Wanna join me?

How much fire and sand to you think we can sell?

:thumbsup

Fire AND Sand?! I think we've accidentally stumbled upon the recipe for glass! Let's start an affiliate program right away! How about GlassPass.com? I'm thinking we offer $100 PPS on free trials just to get started, and then go from there!

I'm sure you can still sling a lot of GLASS to the tweakers, just not the material.

:winkwink:

Custom rape scenes from Brazzers? I just had one of the big program owners contact me and confirm this is true. I say, shame of Brazzers!

Isn't this the same thing Max Hardcore is in jail for now? Maybe worse? How can Visa do the processing for a rape site?

Pretty messed up.

:2 cents:

If you go to the join form on shameoneher.com and fill in a user and pass it takes you to secure.brazzers.com

here is the evolution of adult free sites since the beginning of adult

freesite steals pics
sells them video paysites

freesite steals softcore video
sells them hardcore video paysites

freesite steals hardcore videos
sells them cams/dating sites

freesite steals extreme hardcore videos
freesite sells them rape videos paysite

so make ur rape tube today and get a head start

Hmmm...that ain't how I remember the "beginning" of adult freesites. Maybe you "Began" a few years late. But when I started there were only a handful of "video paysites" and I had user/pass given to me by all of them to take whatever content we needed to make galleries.

Also..we were all on dial up. And not everybody even had 56k...a lot of people were still 28k (I started on 14.4) You could TRY to look at one PICTURE and you would click on it, go get a cup of coffee and then come back and it still wouldn't be all the way loaded.

Please don't try to map out adult online since the "beginning" if you weren't at least surfing it in the "beginning"

I think the "issue" is that the prechecked items say "Free" but it's only a free trial and those details are under the fold and join button. Designed to trick those signing up thinking they're getting a real free membership.

you guys have seen New Jack City right? Remember the end how when Nino Brown finally gets his come-uppins, Ice-T's character just puts his shades on and Judd Nelson's character cracks that little smile that justice was finally served.

I'm just thinking that day is coming for our friends up in Montreal. Not advocating violence, just that justice be served.

You reap what you sew!

Here's a heads up bros....they ain't got no foosball table where yall be headed.

http://woodenspears.com/wp-content/u...ance-funny.jpg

ADG

ya before internet was bbs's
i know dude
i just started mapping from the pic/video era

A ton of people got in touch with me privately that did not want to get involved in this thread. Not just little webmasters, big guys.

I think the whole industry feels pretty much the same way on this one.

I'm with you on this one. :2 cents:

and the whole industry will be much smaller in the coming months/year as a result.

the damage is being done daily and it's irreversible.

And what does that tell you about the potential for anything to be done?....If some "big guys" are contacting you bitching about it and they're too scared to even be involved in this THREAD, then why in the fuck would they bother to even send a nasty email to someone stealing their content?....

As long as those "big guys" keep sending them traffic like everyone else(see xxxjays sig) - nothing will change.

It will change the day the government/visa pull the plug on us, and not one day before.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Id just like to point out that KrisH is not Franck.

Its the ever beloved Angry Midget!

EbusDk

He's not hiding it, obviously, just pointing it out to those that assume he is someone else.

only a crackhead would think im franck.... oohh wait.. see what i did there? :1orglaugh

I would think that the name in the sig + domain + my bad english + people still reffer to me as EBUSDK + the fact im loud and obnoxious like a fat kid at MacDonalds, would make it clear to most people who I am.

I only changed it because I got tired of people calling me my company-name, instead of my real name

dang long chat

I agree, Brazzers is trying to squeeze everyone else out.

The real shame of it is they have good content, good sites, and run a good webmaster program. They can compete and do well in the market without trying to fuck every other company in the business by hook or crook.

They are spending an assload of money to monopolize a shrinking industry.

I'm not so sure about the irreversible part.

Think about it....content that is even a couple of months old on the net is kinda "dead" for sales anyway.

So if and when something happens to put a stop to it, I'd say within 4 to 5 months this business would be totally resurrected. I'm sure a lot of experts will say I'm wrong. But in my opinion, and from my experiences...that is what I think would happen.

In the case of tubes... the recovery would begin almost immediately. For torrents it would take a little longer because of the mass spread of full site rips that are now downloaded on millions of hard drives.

But even then...look at what would happen: Let's say a guy has the entire OC Cash library of sites sitting on his hard drive from where he downloaded them from a torrent.

That's all he'll ever need ever again...right? No. OC Cash will put up new updates with new stuff that he can't see. And eventually, a few months down the line there will be enough new stuff to make him feel like he's missing out.

I know this because I protect my content and shut that shit down a few months ago. So now only our old scenes can be found (at least until removeyourcontent gets them yanked too). After a couple of months our sales picked back up because people could see the new trailers for all the new scenes and then could not find them for free. So they started buying memberships again.

Since the majority of the program owners out there didn't believe you could protect your content without pissing the members off, they are now hurting bad. But I have seen the results and I know that once something happens to shut down piracy it will happen for everyone else too.

Or to make it simpler...everybody could quit getting pissed about it and just start protecting their content. Problem solved.

let me guess....

the usual porn chicks getting banged

Here is the issues that makes Tube a better value for every one (except for the content owner).

1. Lax laws including DMCA allows people to run tube sites with out much worry.

2. The bandwidth cost is going down every day ....its down as much as 2$/Meg and when the 100G optics goes into service by year end you will see that cost going down to 50 cents / meg.

3. Their are adult busienss that are willing to buy traffic from Tube sites so they make money....or in some Tubs cases upsellls are their own business.

4. Adult don't have some thing like MPAA, we got FSC but they cant seem to do any thing except for to ask more donation.

5. Surfers hate adult companies thanks to all the over billing shit we do

6. People want to cut back on spending due to economy, this is like going from drinking bottle water to tap water.

So how do you compete with this ?

I think that is true, as long as we are talking about user submitted content. But this aint submitted content. This is staffmembers - fully aware that they are stealing - upload stolen content to their server

but personally I dont care any more. I just stick with companies I trust dont take part in those kind of actions.

Very true, but you have to prove it in a court of law, which would require an insider with a lot of documentation.

This is something that isn't discussed much as one of the reasons surfers turn to tubes.

what matters the most in this is, how many guys from gfy jerked off to a vid on there today? lol :1orglaugh

Guilty as charged.

spanked, but I didn't nut... does that make it ok

Damn!

I thought this thread was going to be about Juggcash and their new HD tools with white label HD channels.

what is your unique to sale ratio with them?

I am shocked that they filmed that out here in LA, in fact I saw one of the models you represent Dee Roze on the site.

Maybe they think because they are in Canada they can't be prosecuted, but the guys who they paid to shoot it for them sure as hell can.

LOL. I remember one of our agents said, "She looks like she is being raped during that scene." I thought it was because she wasn't a good performer, but winds up she was playing her part perfectly.

Score 1 for www.ocmodeling.com

:thumbsup

I am shocked that OC modeling provides them with models when I read this thread :2 cents:

It might mean that you need members area quality content rather than low resolution dvd quality found on tubes. Try Pornbb. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pornbb.org