By the way, I'm pretty sure all it would take is a court order to find out without a doubt who is behind all of those sites. That's not that difficult to get....

Hey Jay, good to see you back in action... :thumbsup

I understand that the value of content goes down once it is labeled as "non-exclusive", however, the practice until recently has been that the content was licensed for use in Members areas, with only a certain limited amount of content being authorized for traffic generating purposes (15-20 pix or 1-2 minutes of video).

A person/company that made their money back several times from the content off their own DVDs/sites, and then resells/licenses their content to other webmasters (for limited, paid member only use), should not then bargain basement their content to the rip-off tube/torrents sites, which in effect helps to legitimize their otherwise illegal operations, as well as devalues their content to other people whom only purchased the content since they understood that there was a level playing field, and the bulk of the content could only be displayed in designated Members areas.

If a 3rd party content producer thinks that they can sell content to pirate tube and torrents sites, and thus undermining the deals that they previously did with legit webmasters, and expect the status quo to prevail, then they are in for a rude awakening.

If they think there is any future in that business model, since legit purchasers of 3rd party content will quit buying from them, and once one of the pirates posts it on their site, all of the other would-be pirate clients will simply leech off of the original pirate site.

Yet another adult business model doomed to failure... :2 cents:

ADG

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I was there to take pics of the seminars - roundtables, but did not actually sit down and listen to what was said, it was in russian. I rarely sit down and listen to any conference, mainly because its the same old, same old, rehashed 10 ways from centre:winkwink:

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Exactly why most shooters don't get aroused/erections when shooting - they are too busy focusing on the work... :thumbsup

Now, if you get aroused during post-production, then you know that you have gold!!! :pimp

Actually, if you are experienced, you generally know it is good when you are shooting it, but you are too preoccupied to acknowledge it, in order to ensure that you have the technical aspects straight as well....

ADG

The DMCA already does that. Issue a complaint to the isp (usually the owner of the ip block), if the content is still online after several days, follow-up with the isp. If it remains online for more than a couple of weeks, contact your lawyer, and have them file suit against the ISP. However, if the user follows a counter-dmca notice, then they need to provide their address & contact information. At that point, the isp is declared irresponsible for the accessibility of the content, and you follow suit against the owner of the site. If the ISP doesn't get back to you after a couple of weeks, you have a case against the isp.

Remember, porn & mp3s aren't the only thing that the DMCA protects. If some dickhead felt like copy and pasting every word & page from a book onto a thread in this forum, that'd be a dmca violation too.

Doesn't stop there. Did you know that the people who operate the Eiffel tower hold a copyright that prohibits even amateur photographers from publishing photos taken of the eiffel tower at night while it's lights are on? Go read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_...pyright_claims

Those people could legally DMCA anyone in the united states for publishing a photo they took themselves.

Sweet! I just saw my first animal porn and cum swapping... never really cared to buy that shit but here they have it for free!

This is not good at all :(

Sad to see this kind of shit...

Speaking as someone who had a rape kink between the ages of 17 and 20, The chances that the video is depicting a legitimate rape is nearly impossible. Additionally, 5/6 of the girls I've dated during the past 2 years have all told me about their rape fantasies, and I role played that fantasy with 4 of them. Really, it's not a big deal. It's extremely common.

And the whole "visa and mastercard wouldn't be happy about this" statement is stupid too. Do you think visa and mastercard would be happy about their cards being used to buy a subscription to a site with a video showing 5 guys draining their load in the ass of a 19 year old thai girl who then pushes the combined load into a martini glass that the camera man pours into her mouth as she chokes herself? As long as the porn is legal, and they don't give a shit.

I've bought lube & sounds to shove down my urethra using my visa card. Nobody's called me to tell me they're revoking my membership yet.

But then the same could be done about your own link trading. Unless you use nofollow which you obviously dont you are also breaking the guidelines, like everybody else on this forum. Reporting that shit to google is pathetic, its not only brazzers buying the links who could be damaged but regular webmasters selling them you are trying to fuck up...

back with a bang! thanks for the scoop jay.

Hot website!

as the tube business model seem to work,
why doesnt anyone:
1. get a tube script
2. signup for brazzers paysites
3. download their updates every day and put it on your own tube

now, keep it only brazzers content to make it really sting.

its a shame im not allowed in canada. i'd gladly go up there and sort things out.

Well their content is on rapidshare already one way or another.

Sweet, you just saved me $28!

It doesn't seem like it would make financial sense to cater to your desires...It's not like you built a site around that content...It's just fluff material, which gets old as all content does...Why would he go through the hassle and expense of getting them to remove content that he already sold when instead, he can just recycle his old content and just sell it to them?

So he's going to abandon that whole business model because you think that your fluff bonus material is being devalued?.....If he does, he's a fool......

Fuck it....embed some of those videos off of the tube sites in your members area....

you do realize that viacom hasn't yet gone thru all the evidence yet
they still could prove that youtube employees themselves uploaded the content.

Of course it is possible that the evidence will prove that viacom employees or agents uploaded the content, which under the DMCA would make viacom responsible for 100% of the legal expenses of youtube including any business loses due to the bad publicity.

they are willing to risk a lot of money to try and CHANGE the law.
personally i think it is stupid since it so easy to exploit the traffic source if you know how.

nice, i thought 1:2000+ on bdsm/fetish can't get any worse...

or setup a private tracker and upsell a bunch of dating/live chat sites, ama contract was screwed up enough that he actually licienced that behaviour.

knock knock

whos there?

goons...hired goons

:)

this is exactly why I don't sell to tube sites although i could have made some money that way. but i would have screwed up my future business. same applies to "cheap blowout sales" btw

anyone notice the quote at the top of extremetube now?

lol

wow, and a slap in the face to top it off.

royalty fee should be send by epassporte to [email protected]

Another new affiliate program from brazzers:
http://affiliates.ireel.com/

omg...bitch slap! :zzwhip

Brazzers has been sticking it to the industry for years now and that's cos of all the idiots who cheerfully bend over and... adapt :disgust

Where did Polisharistocrat go?

Good lookin out :thumbsup:thumbsup

lol that is just a smack in the face. How many god damn surfers know what GFY is anyone.. the mother fuckers are just rubbing it in that they are profiting from jacking everyone elses content.

Off to fill his wine glass I would imagine.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/73ceda1267.jpg

Why do you ask?

Just havent seen him post since I came back from my traveling. He was one of brazzers bigest fans, and would be interesting to see his view on this, since he was aware of the project all along

You're 1000% wrong and it's obvious you've never dealt with a merchant account bank. The depiction of an illegal activity is just as bad as the activity itself, especially when you're explicit about it. There's no difference in the eyes when you are depicting an illegal activity. It would be no different if you did a site with all legal girls who look underage and then advertise about how these girls look so young and make it obvious you're trying to hit the kiddy porn angle, same with beastiality - showing a girl on a horse riding around, and then advertising how all these girls are fucking the horse even if it's not actually true. Fake rape is in the exact same category.

And I agree, many people have a rape fantasy - visa and MC dont care. You can argue back that I'm wrong, but I am telling you, YOU ARE WRONG, and thats final. Faking rape is not acceptable to Visa and MC. There is a strict policy against anything that looks nonconsensual, it can end in total termination and being put out of business.

Stop pretending like you know, because it's clear you don't know. Pick up the phone and call the people who bank in our industry, tell them you want to do a fake rape site - see what they say.

LOL ... i agree!!

I had a nice convo with him recently ... sweet guy, but he is very "right is right"!

He has nothing but wonderful things to say about you guys!! :thumbsup

xoxo,
Megan

I can't wait for the day that Stephanie and hahahahahahaha rip off TT Boy for some cash...

First I will stop by JM's office and borrow the "Sunshine Bat" from Jeff, then I will buy a plane ticket to Montreal and patiently await Phil's arrival, I will hand him the "Sunshine Bat" and then I will sit back and enjoy the show. I shall videotape the whole thing, which I will then burn to DVD and send copies to everyone on GFY. We will then upload the video to every tube site known to man, seed it on all the torrent sites and flood rapidshare with the footage.

It will be on YouTube and we'll make animated gifs for ytmnd.com and possibly, yes, we will make a facebook cause dedicated to glorifying the footage along with a tube site dedicated to user-generated mashups of those two little squirrel-dicks getting their faces caved in by TT! Oh what a glorious day!

TT Boy > a bunch of pussy ass foosball players and thieves.

WTF...you can't say the owner of Brazzers name? WTF? GFY showin' it's BRO card or what?

.......................................:2 cents:

The first tube guys should have been eliminated immediately.

It's still not too late for some lessons to be learned...

If you go here and view/source their whole staff is listed, including pictures.
http://www.mansef.com/?t=staff

What is/was the quote? Can't see it on my end.

All I can say is this: business people in da bizness :1orglaugh



What about building a legimated real long term business for ones in a lifetime....

cockroacher bizness plans :1orglaugh

Thanks for saying that so I didn't have to.

You of all people shouldn't complain. Your brothers at AFF bought Zango traffic on your own domain as well as thousands of other webmasters and you still promote them.

Like I've said a million times before: It is impossible to avoid doing business with everyone you don't agree with something they are doing. Everyone does something you don't agree with. If you were a big crusader, you'd be stuck doing business with a few mom and pop operations and may feel good because you are :doing the right thing". but making no sales.

:2 cents:

Fuck it, I'm gonna start a rape site too!

Looks like all the cockroaches just went scurrying off the page. Nothing there now :disgust

Maybe some of the old school brick and mortar mob affiliated guys, but if you think about it the Brazzers guys have already shown much more of a propensity to handle biz in that matter than any of the windbags on here. They already seem to operate with an organized crime mentality and it doesn't appear that anyone's tough talk is frightening them too much...

It's there right after

Gotcha :thumbsup

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