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marketsmart 09-22-2009 07:31 PM

btw, how do you think a tube site would handle 100 lawsuits in 100 different cities..

only 2 choices... defend or subject to a default judgement...

win a default judgement and go after their registrar, their host, their advertisers and sue them too..

at a certain point even if the tube owners are willing to litigate, the other parties mentioned wont be..

Robbie 09-22-2009 07:39 PM

I've also been told by attorneys that if you bring up a case against a tube site and you did NOT DMCA them and have it taken down legally...then you end up the one who is the criminal.

It's not cut and dried like you think. Nobody here can sue Brazzers for looking at them funny or stealing their content.

First thing that me and everyone else did a couple of years back when this started to really grow was to check with attorneys about legal avenues.

But thanks to the DMCA laws...we can't do shit. Copyright issues don't apply

marketsmart 09-22-2009 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350600)
I've also been told by attorneys that if you bring up a case against a tube site and you did NOT DMCA them and have it taken down legally...then you end up the one who is the criminal.

It's not cut and dried like you think. Nobody here can sue Brazzers for looking at them funny or stealing their content.

First thing that me and everyone else did a couple of years back when this started to really grow was to check with attorneys about legal avenues.

But thanks to the DMCA laws...we can't do shit. Copyright issues don't apply

what did the riaa do?

they went after the sharers...

now another point is this...

like i stated before, try to upload a watermarked clip that you have the right to or own..

guess what.. it wont get posted..

so, although i am not an attorney nor do i play one on tv, if the tubes are looking at videos for watermarks then i think you ca deduce that they can look for stolen content..

i think that there is a valid argument that the tubes, by not allowing non advertisers to upload legal content are facilitating illegal content...

my argument would be that any legal owner of content would not allow their content to be displayed without proper credit would therefore imply that any non credited content was in fact stolen or used without the permission of the copyright holder..

in my mind its just like when you pierce the corporate veil..

just because you have a registered corporation doesnt necessarily mean that you are protected if you dont follow the laws to a t... :2 cents:

Profits of Doom 09-22-2009 07:56 PM

You know who has the best job security on the planet? A Brazzers employee. After all, how could a Brazzers employee get fired when they know all the company dirt, like the fact that it really is the employees uploading the videos to pornhub, nullifying the DMCA protection. Hell, an enterprising Brazzers employee could gather all types of information that several affiliate programs on here would pay top dollar for. Yup, it certainly is a good time to be a Brazzers employee. Just saying...

Pics Traffic 09-22-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16350427)
god damn you guys are assholes - http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1656987760 - we just released this site yesterday...i hope you all die

Thats just sad. I bet someone from Brazzers reading this right now with huge smile on his face. I cant believe people havent send some Hells Angels out to their office.

Robbie 09-22-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16350630)
like i stated before, try to upload a watermarked clip that you have the right to or own..

guess what.. it wont get posted..

so, although i am not an attorney nor do i play one on tv, if the tubes are looking at videos for watermarks then i think you ca deduce that they can look for stolen content..

i think that there is a valid argument that the tubes, by not allowing non advertisers to upload legal content are facilitating illegal content...

I think that too. And I've said it and so have other armchair lawyers. But we never see the real attorneys on here go along with that. And since this kind of thing has ass-raped companies that USED to have some pretty deep pockets....I'm guessing that their attorneys didn't think that was viable either and could result in a "legal backfire"

I don't know man. When I first started seeing my shit stolen in late 2007 I went ballistic. I went out and retained a law firm and told them what I wanted to do about it. I wanted to sue the people stealing my shit right down to the ground.

After I blew all the retainer money I had paid the attorneys, I realized that the law was never gonna help me in time. So that's why I took matters into my own hands by protecting my content.

Just say that theoretically most paysites had done what I did.

That would mean that the only porn on pornhub would be ripped DVD's and 2 year old content.

All the newest porn scenes from the hottest paysites would still have to be seen by obtaining a membership.

Well, that dream can still become true.

IF the majority did it right now...within a year, pornhub would be nothing but DVD rips and year old content. If there is one thing for sure on the internet....content that is a year old is like 100 years old in doggy years.

If you noticed in the gideongallery debates. the ONE thing he feared was us protecting our content. He knew that the law was never going to side with pornographers. But he also knew what would happen if we shut off the supply.

Pornhub didn't become huge because the guys at Brazzers are geniuses in traffic. It became huge by having full scenes and sometimes full members areas instantly streaming for everybody for free. And they have the NEWEST scenes as xxxjay is pointing out.

Take away the content? Pornhub drops off the map.

marketsmart 09-22-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350679)
I think that too. And I've said it and so have other armchair lawyers. But we never see the real attorneys on here go along with that. And since this kind of thing has ass-raped companies that USED to have some pretty deep pockets....I'm guessing that their attorneys didn't think that was viable either and could result in a "legal backfire"

I don't know man. When I first started seeing my shit stolen in late 2007 I went ballistic. I went out and retained a law firm and told them what I wanted to do about it. I wanted to sue the people stealing my shit right down to the ground.

After I blew all the retainer money I had paid the attorneys, I realized that the law was never gonna help me in time. So that's why I took matters into my own hands by protecting my content.

Just say that theoretically most paysites had done what I did.

That would mean that the only porn on pornhub would be ripped DVD's and 2 year old content.

All the newest porn scenes from the hottest paysites would still have to be seen by obtaining a membership.

Well, that dream can still become true.

IF the majority did it right now...within a year, pornhub would be nothing but DVD rips and year old content. If there is one thing for sure on the internet....content that is a year old is like 100 years old in doggy years.

If you noticed in the gideongallery debates. the ONE thing he feared was us protecting our content. He knew that the law was never going to side with pornographers. But he also knew what would happen if we shut off the supply.

Pornhub didn't become huge because the guys at Brazzers are geniuses in traffic. It became huge by having full scenes and sometimes full members areas instantly streaming for everybody for free. And they have the NEWEST scenes as xxxjay is pointing out.

Take away the content? Pornhub drops off the map.

well, maybe thats the answer... i guess time will tell....

one of the comments jay made about the tubes offering to either play ball or they would just steal content is something that i have actually heard quite a few times..

i still think there are other options but like you said its not cheap...

CrkMStanz 09-22-2009 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350679)

...

IF the majority did it right now...within a year, pornhub would be nothing but DVD rips and year old content. If there is one thing for sure on the internet....content that is a year old is like 100 years old in doggy years.

If you noticed in the gideongallery debates. the ONE thing he feared was us protecting our content. He knew that the law was never going to side with pornographers. But he also knew what would happen if we shut off the supply.

Pornhub didn't become huge because the guys at Brazzers are geniuses in traffic. It became huge by having full scenes and sometimes full members areas instantly streaming for everybody for free. And they have the NEWEST scenes as xxxjay is pointing out.

Take away the content? Pornhub drops off the map.

I'm just gonna go ahead and give ya some thumbs up here...
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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ProG 09-22-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

The PornHub team is always updating and adding more porn videos every day.
An admission of guilt printed right on the front page. lol :upsidedow

Half man, Half Amazing 09-22-2009 09:25 PM

I've removed over 125,000 files from various tube, torrent and rapidshare sites in just under 6 months. Sadly this is a drop of water in the ocean compared to what's all out there. But yes, Robbie is right and it's something I've been saying for the last year...PROTECT YOUR FUCKING CONTENT.

Too many studios are lazy as fuck and sit around bitching about the problem, waiting for someone to come along and save them while they are having stupid ass "porn star parties" where they drop 20k to get a bunch of fleabag whores drunk.

Protect your content, get off yer ass, send a DMCA or ten every fucking day or as my man Dalton sez in Roadhouse...

"there's always barber college"

xxxjay 09-23-2009 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350521)
Jays stuff can't be protected. It's an agreement they have with a DVD company for exclusive web rights. That means that anybody can just buy the dvds and rip them. :(
For that business model, OC Cash's fate is in the hands of whether or not new laws come into play to put an end to this crap.

But thanks for your positive outlook Brujah. I now know how to weigh your opinions when I see your posts. :)

Just because some asshole buys a DVD for 5$ doesn't give them rights to redistribute it.

H-Tom 09-28-2009 06:35 AM

bumb....

xxxjay 09-28-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by piernik (Post 16366573)
bumb....

I would have said, "A full skin of GFY with their pirated traffic, but nobody would have believed me a few weeks ago.

fusionx 09-28-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16367648)
I would have said, "A full skin of GFY with their pirated traffic, but nobody would have believed me a few weeks ago.

Now they believe you, but they still don't really care about it one way or another.

xxxjay 10-14-2009 09:35 PM

god damn...have you asshole ever heard of a DMCA...i sent this weeks ago on this video:
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1656987760

This is my 3rd attempt.

Robbie 10-14-2009 09:44 PM

Bro, if they are ignoring your DMCA...then why don't you and JC get an attorney on this? That is supposed to be a big "no-no" Seems like you could actually do something now. Isn't ignoring your DMCA opening the door for you to hand them their ass now? I'd say it's a good thing.

Sebastian Sands 10-14-2009 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16429731)
Bro, if they are ignoring your DMCA...then why don't you and JC get an attorney on this? That is supposed to be a big "no-no" Seems like you could actually do something now. Isn't ignoring your DMCA opening the door for you to hand them their ass now? I'd say it's a good thing.

very true.. go get em.

xxxjay 10-15-2009 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16429731)
Bro, if they are ignoring your DMCA...then why don't you and JC get an attorney on this? That is supposed to be a big "no-no" Seems like you could actually do something now. Isn't ignoring your DMCA opening the door for you to hand them their ass now? I'd say it's a good thing.

We've talked to a lawyer, building a case it more expensive and complex than you would think.

Fuck this stupid business.

Robbie 10-15-2009 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16430023)
We've talked to a lawyer, building a case it more expensive and complex than you would think.

Fuck this stupid business.

I hear ya. Anything legal sucks and costs too much money. And it puts you on the govt. radar on top of that. I was just thinking that there has to be one of these publicity seeking guys like Lawrence Walters who would love to tackle something like this and become a hero. Maybe not?

oil 10-15-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sands (Post 16091161)

seems that article has been removed, can anyone point me to a repost?

habs4life 10-15-2009 08:35 PM

yeh can someone repost?

xxxjay 11-03-2009 07:28 PM

It's ratbastard day on GFY.

I DMCA'ed this and it went straight back up:
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...4860be3523cc40
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...443d4c0ba0da9f

Also:
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...2be77630d5946e

Fucking parasites.

jigg 11-03-2009 09:46 PM

bump for bad content thiefs

joshuawk 11-11-2009 11:06 PM

dude, hire Paul Berra

..


You need some good jewish lawyers, and youll get your money back..


I think he's Scottish but it doesnt matter..

Mutt 11-12-2009 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501869)

have their legs broken. i'm sure TTBoy would do it himself if you gave him the location and names of the people responsible for stealing his hard work.

gideongallery 11-12-2009 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501869)

so they are not ignoring your dmca takedown notices they are just not blacklisting the movie

so they are just working within the scope of the current law




xxxjay 11-12-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16542051)
have their legs broken. i'm sure TTBoy would do it himself if you gave him the location and names of the people responsible for stealing his hard work.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

BVF 11-12-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 16501869)

Oh well.

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo...dy_i_guess.gif

seeandsee 11-14-2009 08:25 AM

i really dont care :D

Profits of Doom 11-14-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16542051)
have their legs broken. i'm sure TTBoy would do it himself if you gave him the location and names of the people responsible for stealing his hard work.

No he wouldn't, so please stop with that already. In fact Brazzers is the one company that still operates like organized crime, so they are the only ones I would worry about breaking anyone's legs...

xxxjay 11-17-2009 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 16551047)
Brazzers is the one company that still operates like organized crime,

:2 cents::2 cents:

xxxjay 11-19-2009 12:58 AM

from www.bigbuttbrazilianmoms.com - thanks assholes

john FVC 11-19-2009 06:39 AM

We are onto them.

adendreams 11-19-2009 09:19 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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