Obama's Science Czar advocates forced sterilization

[DateDoc]

"President Obama's top science adviser has toyed with extreme measures of population control, even suggesting in one book how to make it more publicly acceptable for the government to spike drinking water in order to sterilize people."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=home_showcase

[MaDalton]

there are many people that should not be allowed to breed. you'll be investigated when you get an animal from the shelter but every jobless dumbfuck with an IQ of 50 can put 20 children in this world.

[quiet]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

there are many people that should not be allowed to breed. you'll be investigated when you get an animal from the shelter but every jobless dumbfuck with an IQ of 50 can put 20 children in this world.

haha, so true. we had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get our kitty from the local shelter. and they still call once a month to check up on things...

[GrouchyAdmin]

Well, that'd be one thing his administration would have issues fucking up.

[STAROTICA]

thank god,,,there are wat too many people on earth as it is......

[BradM]

Sounds like a plan to me.

[who]

I think a government license should be required in order to allow a pregnancy in some countries. USA in particular.

[Machete_]

This is video #2 in a series of very interesting videos you sould watch when you have the time.

The video below shows why regulation might be one of the more humane solution, to a problem that could result in massive fatal problems, if we dont start doing something about it now.

The choise is between proactive regulating now, or starving to death later



Here is the first one, if you deside to watch them all https://youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

[IllTestYourGirls]

All those who are scared of "out of control human population" should lead by example and kill themselves first.

[Martin]

You people are fucked that are for this, you and your kids will be drinking that water too.. Clowns.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

All those who are scared of "out of control human population" should lead by example and kill themselves first.

I could not agree more. They should lead by example.

[quiet]

leading by example would be using birth control.

[JD]

reproducing NEEDS to be regulated. You should have to have a permit to procreate. Just because you CAN have kids doesn't mean you should. Too many useless assholes pop out kids instead of actually DOING something with their lives.

+1 vote for required birth control via injections.

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

All those who are scared of "out of control human population" should lead by example and kill themselves first.

unless we controll it, it is pr definition "out of control"

If we dont do it, nature will will regulate itself, just like it does with animals. If there are to many people we will just starve to death or kill eachother to get the food - but I guess nuking a whole continent in the fight for clean water and food is more humane to you?

[baddog]

Good deal.

[Rochard]

Monday I was driving down Interstate 5 someplace between LA and Sacramento, a long, two lane highway. An eighteen wheeler had broken down on the side of the freeway, and another eighteen wheeler driving by moved into the fast lane to give it proper space - very customary. The dumb ass in the mini van - who had been in the fast lane the entire time - couldn't grasp why the eighteen wheeler had moved into the fast lane, and decided to drop down into the slow lane to pass the truck - and blew past the stranded eighteen wheeler on the side of the freeway.

Some people should be shot because they are just plain stupid. Making sure they don't reproduce sounds like a grand idea.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

"President Obama's top science adviser has toyed with extreme measures of population control, even suggesting in one book how to make it more publicly acceptable for the government to spike drinking water in order to sterilize people."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=home_showcase

obama is world ruler!

[Eric]

You can count me in for this! A regulation of the number of children a human being can have should be put into place. Replacing ones self should be the limit.

[JD]

Originally Posted by Eric

You can count me in for this! A regulation of the number of children a human being can have should be put into place. Replacing ones self should be the limit.

Agreed. 1 child per person should be the limit (except in the case of multiples) And this fertility drug shit needs to get the axe as well. Fucking Octomom is the prime example of it being a horrible idea. If you can't procreate naturally.... ADOPT.

[IllTestYourGirls]

I am waiting for one of you to say that we should rid the world of Jews next.....

[steved]

I won't drink public water for so many other reasons When it comes out rusty, you know there is something bad in it!

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I am waiting for one of you to say that we should rid the world of Jews next.....

you are simply a idiot if you compare population control to race hygienics

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by KrisH

you are simply a idiot if you compare population control to race hygienics

You simply dont understand history if you dont think one doesnt lead to another.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of." ruth bader ginsburg 2009

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

You simply dont understand history if you dont think one doesnt lead to another.

No, its you who think backward. Evolution is not applying yesterdays mistakes to todays problems. It's looking back and see what went wrong before, and avoid making the same mistake again.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by KrisH

No, its you who think backward. Evolution is not applying yesterdays mistakes to todays problems. It's looking back and see what went wrong before, and avoid making the same mistake again.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don?t want to have too many of." ruth bader ginsburg 2009

Where do you think pornographers stand in the line of "populations" they dont want too many of?

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of." ruth bader ginsburg 2009

Where do you think pornographers stand in the line of "populations" they dont want too many of?

That quote fell in regards to what the consequenses was of underage parenthoods, rape victims that got pregnant. In other words - unwanted pregnancies


It have absolutely nothing to do with race or some fucked up eugenicist plan. That quote is taken completely out of context

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by KrisH

That quote fell in regards to what the consequenses was of underage parenthoods, rape victims that got pregnant. In other words - unwanted pregnancies


It have absolutely nothing to do with race or some fucked up eugenicist plan. That quote is taken completely out of context

Keep telling yourself that.

[Machete_]

And she said it in 2005 - not 2009

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by JD

Agreed. 1 child per person should be the limit (except in the case of multiples) And this fertility drug shit needs to get the axe as well. Fucking Octomom is the prime example of it being a horrible idea. If you can't procreate naturally.... ADOPT.

Does this mean 1 child per couple or can a couple have two children. If the husband has a kid from a previous marriage can he get his new wife pregnant if he remarries? What happens when he or her have reached their alloted quota for children? Are they sterilized? Who pays to sterilize them? If they have more kids than they are allowed is there a fine, jail time, do we kill the extra kid?

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

Does this mean 1 child per couple or can a couple have two children. If the husband has a kid from a previous marriage can he get his new wife pregnant if he remarries? What happens when he or her have reached their alloted quota for children. Are they sterilized? Who pays to sterilize them? If they have more kids than they are allowed is there a fine, jail time, do we kill the extra kid?

that is some of the questions we need to find a answer for, but we dont find the answer running around pretending there isent a problem

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by KrisH

And she said it in 2005 - not 2009

Sorry, wasent 2005 - that was another quote, my bad

[MaDalton]

ask the chinese how to do it - they have a one child policy

too bad if it's a daughter though, can happen that she disappears. which leads to the problem that you end up with a lot of guys who don't find a woman to marry cause instead of natural 50/50 you suddenly have like 60% boys and 40% girls

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by KrisH

that is some of the questions we need to find a answer for, but we dont find the answer running around pretending there isent a problem

The question has already been answered. Its called freedom.

[David!]

WOW, had it been some Bush' adviser who said this and you would all be screaming murder, but it's Obama so it's all cool and dandy...

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by PussyMan

WOW, had it been some Bush' adviser who said this and you would all be screaming murder, but it's Obama so it's all cool and dandy...

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

The question has already been answered. Its called freedom.

you are free to overpopulation the earth, so we either kill or starve eachother to death - that is your alternative.

I would preffer we find a solution that gave people a incentive to think about their grandchildrens future, and not just themselves.

Its simple math. Since as long as we have registered growth in population, our doubling-rate have been around 70 years. Check the movie above for a explanation of how exponential growth works.

This means, that unless you want people to starve to death, or expect a new WorldWar - you will run out of food in 3 generations from now, and even if you fixed that, you would run out of space about 6 generations from now.

unless there is a war or sickness that kills a lot of people. That is the cold facts you need to realice.

Again - I think its much less intrusive if we could come up with a way to benefit the people that put some thought in to how many kids they should get

[psili]

Some of your moms should have swallowed, or have removed warning labels from your toys...

1. RTFA

2. Dude co-authored some book back in '77 -- "which discussed the possible role of a wide range of solutions to overpopulation, from voluntary family planning at one extreme, to a "planetary regime" of enforced population control at the other extreme."

3. What, honestly, do some of you propose when people are using vaginas like clown cars?

4. Look up carrying capacity, while you're pondering #3.

[Dirty Dane]

The reason population is growing in the rich world is mainly because we cure diseases and humans are getting older before they die. But ironically, it is not the richer world, but the poor world where population increase is worst, simply because they are poor. Without education and better technology, the gap between generations is shorter.
The solution is to let them take part of the rich world. That will stabilize and optimize both economy and population. Destabilization (killing people or make them sick) will only result in an endless circle of suffer.

[JD]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

Does this mean 1 child per couple or can a couple have two children. If the husband has a kid from a previous marriage can he get his new wife pregnant if he remarries? What happens when he or her have reached their alloted quota for children? Are they sterilized? Who pays to sterilize them? If they have more kids than they are allowed is there a fine, jail time, do we kill the extra kid?

what part of "1 child per person" doesn't make sense? One man... one woman... 2 kids allowed. If he remarries, and the new wife has no kids, she can have one. When the limit is reached, they would be required to be on birth control and or "get fixed".

It would be cheaper to pay for sterilizing them than to pay them every month to spit out kids they can't afford/don't want/etc. If they have more than the limit, a huge fine and jail time depending on the situation would be ideal.The kid would be taken away and put up for adoption.

imo people should be able to have as many adopted kids as they want. It's "new" births that are the problem.

[american pervert]

im for retroactive abortions.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by KrisH

blah blah blah

Seriously you are fucked up in the head, fucked up like Hitler. No doubt about it.

Anyone who thinks they should control an others reproductive activity in anyway is seriously fucked up in the head.

There are 1000s of better ways to stop over population than FORCED abortions and sterilization.

But feel free to sterilize yourself at any point. No one is stopping you. Well wait, you are taking up the precious limited resources of the earth, should I get you a gun?

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

I am waiting for one of you to say that we should rid the world of Jews next.....

It is hard to believe how many people here are eager to embrace eugenics despite the unimaginable levels of suffering and death that the theory has been responsible for. Really makes me sick.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

It is hard to believe how many people here are eager to embrace eugenics despite the unimaginable levels of suffering and death that the theory has been responsible for. Really makes me sick.

They are mentally ill they cant help it. They think the should control others while not taking any steps themselves. They think they are above the peons and everyone should do what they think is right even if they themselves do not even attempt to do what is right.

After all these people are talking about limited resources yet they are on a "fucking around" area of a porn webmaster board. I find that fucking amusing.

[CyberHustler]

[psili]

We all know you post to get a rise out of people.
But really. Tighten that shit up, yo!

Wiping monkey spunk on your monitor makes more sense than the crap you make up in your posts.

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

They are mentally ill they cant help it. They think the should control others while not taking any steps themselves. They think they are above the peons and everyone should do what they think is right even if they themselves do not even attempt to do what is right.

After all these people are talking about limited resources yet they are on a "fucking around" area of a porn webmaster board. I find that fucking amusing.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

The reason population is growing in the rich world is mainly because we cure diseases and humans are getting older before they die.

What disease has ever been cured? Zero.

[jollyperv]

Yep, definitely too many fucks

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

They are mentally ill they cant help it. They think the should control others while not taking any steps themselves. They think they are above the peons and everyone should do what they think is right even if they themselves do not even attempt to do what is right.

Best description of republicans I've seen in quite a while

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

What disease has ever been cured? Zero.

Both infectious and non-infectious diseases, which were normal cause of deaths in the old days, can be prevented or cured individually today.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Both infectious and non-infectious diseases, which were normal cause of deaths in the old days, can be prevented or cured individually today.

Prevented yes, no disease has ever been cured.